Black American Working on my fifth language(Amharic).

[George Gooney]

No...not all languages are simple.

Breh learning languages is literally what humans being were put on this earth to do. Any child can learn any language. It's our own ignorance acquired from adulthood that convinces us otherwise.

 

[George Gooney]

There is a whole lot of gossip and a little bit of facts right now.


PM is trying to establish law and order in the Tigray region and has gone as far as to announce a surgical strike team and aerial bombardment on key sites. This is meant to be specific towards TPLF but the narrative is being pushed that it's against Tigray as a whole. Due to the fact that people blamed the TPLF for the current situation and unfortunately have been taking it out on all Tigray people regardless if they benefitted or not. The TPLF has used that to push an agenda of, look they're coming after all tigrays. You don't want to be subjugated again, especially after all the shyt we pulled, so keep us in power or you're next.


A day before that, when PM moved troops from the south up north to fortify the border between Amhara and Tigray, the OLA came in to Wollega and slaughtered innocent amharas in a school yard to try to establish that non oromos aren't wanted there. The narrative here is anti Semitic and homogenous.

Also, there was the oromo protests that formed as a result of the recent murder of a prominent artist and activist named Aschalu. This came after years of tension due to The expansion of the federal city into the surrounding countryside (oromia). Then there's Burayu, legetafo, and so many other small examples, Then there's also the GERD (dam) and Egypt talking crazy. There's TPLFs everlasting beef with Eritrea and Isayas who is supporting Abiy and Tigray leadership is using to continue pushing fear but ultimately it bubbles down to this.


When TPLF came into power, they created a new constitution based on ethnic federalism; using nations and nationalities to segregate federated units. This was necessary at the time to prevent the federation from breaking apart but many warned of the long term implications.

30 years later, and Meles' grand experiment has resulted in people choosing tribe over nationality. (Aka I'm Tigray before I'm Ethiopian etc) and this new way of looking at the state along with decades of mistreatment and the ill handling of resources has led to the current
quagmire.



If you want to see what's going on, check Twitter tags like #Tigray #TPLF #Oromo #OromoProtests

And brehs in here talking bout tribalism is a good thing.

Would you agree that the main difference between these ethnicities in ethiopia is Language? I see Tigrays that look like Omoros and Amharas that look like Hararis etc etc. When will people realize they're all ethiopian and stop the nonsense?

 

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I speak English, Chinese and French and have zero plans to learn anymore. Focus is on the building the empire. But salute to the cats that speak more than one.

 

[thekingsmen]

Breh learning languages is literally what humans being were put on this earth to do. Any child can learn any language. It's our own ignorance acquired from adulthood that convinces us otherwise.

I agree with you in alot of what your are saying but some languages are more difficult than others. Even some Polygots have trouble in some languages than others.

 

[HarlemHottie]

@HarlemHottie How do you feel about Oriental languages and their use of picture like characters in their alphabets? Mandarin is the world’s most spoken language. Mainly because there’s just a lot of Chinese people, but still.

I ordered this book below. It’s a really great book, and there’s several exercises in every chapter. I also have study cards and watch YouTube videos too.

You mean like hieroglyphs? We currently use an alphabet based on pictograms. The Roman 'B' descends from a semitic corruption of Egyptian hieroglyphs, "beta" meaning house. Can't you still see the windows in the capital B?

I think it's lovely. Go learn mandarin!

Edit: good idea on the hebrew primer! Ima buy it too. We can start a study group! I think i know some stuff that might not be in (readily available) books.

 

[Phitz]

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[HarlemHottie]

And brehs in here talking bout tribalism is a good thing.

Would you agree that the main difference between these ethnicities in ethiopia is Language? I see Tigrays that look like Omoros and Amharas that look like Hararis etc etc. When will people realize they're all ethiopian and stop the nonsense?

It's not about how they look. Don't let the west and modern history skew your understanding of ancient history. To know their languages is to understand the people. They speak different languages bc they've been separated that long.

If you're more familiar with Europe due to a western education, look at alsace-lorraine, a ppl who speak a mix of German and French bc they exist on the border of the two. That's evidence that they've intermixed.

Idk too much about contemporary Ethiopia, but if ppl live right next to each other and speak different dialects, that's historical proof that they don't fw each other.

 

[George Gooney]

It's not about how they look. Don't let the west and modern history skew your understanding of ancient history. To know their languages is to understand the people. They speak different languages bc they've been separated that long.

If you're more familiar with Europe due to a western education, look at alsace-lorraine, a ppl who speak a mix of German and French bc they exist on the border of the two. That's evidence that they've intermixed.

Idk too much about contemporary Ethiopia, but if ppl live right next to each other and speak different dialects, that's historical proof that they don't fw each other.

Thats true but to be willing to potentially perish over something that cant be that serious if it happened thousands of years ago? It's mostly due to the fact that africans are nomadic people and roamed the continent in small cliques. Thats why africa has so many languages and cultures. They got bigger fish to fry is all I'm saying.

 

[HarlemHottie]

Thats true but to be willing to potentially perish over something that cant be that serious if it happened thousands of years ago? It's mostly due to the fact that africans are nomadic people and roamed the continent in small cliques. Thats why africa has so many languages and cultures. They got bigger fish to fry is all I'm saying.

I hear you, but they feel that shyt down to their bones. Their ancestors are telling them to fight.


It's like crackers, and we're culturally the same, share blood, and speak the same dialect. Thats even closer than the tigrays and ahmaras.

Countries as we understand them arise only as the result of an empire forcing them into compliance. But Ethiopia was its own empire. What we see know, in my unstudied opinion, is likely a remnant of ancient (500+ yrs long) battles, where no larger empire came along gather them together.

 

[Enzo]

It's not about how they look. Don't let the west and modern history skew your understanding of ancient history. To know their languages is to understand the people. They speak different languages bc they've been separated that long.

If you're more familiar with Europe due to a western education, look at alsace-lorraine, a ppl who speak a mix of German and French bc they exist on the border of the two. That's evidence that they've intermixed.

Idk too much about contemporary Ethiopia, but if ppl live right next to each other and speak different dialects, that's historical proof that they don't fw each other.

Thats true but to be willing to potentially perish over something that cant be that serious if it happened thousands of years ago? It's mostly due to the fact that africans are nomadic people and roamed the continent in small cliques. Thats why africa has so many languages and cultures. They got bigger fish to fry is all I'm saying.

Actually Amharic and Tigrinya are very much alike. They both, along with guraginya derive from ge'ez and are why these people are considered part of the Semitic language group, (southern Arabic dialect I believe but don't quote me). They have the same norms, follow the same God, celebrate the same holidays etc.

meanwhike, oromos et al are from Cushytic speaking tribes.

Hamer and Omo were given through negotiation and demarcation with Britain to establish a border with Sudan.
Same with Ogaden and the east with somali.



The way i look at Ethiopia is....when the scramble for africa went down, the remaining free fiefdoms and kingdoms combined either through influence, pressure, or force (the end of the zemene mesafint era) and the land comprised of remaining non-western-colonized peoples formed the basis for what is modern day Ethiopia.

There are over 80 recognized nations and nationalities. Some are extremely alike. Some are night and day. But even the language, names, mannerisms and cultural norms have intertwined during that time with predominantly the tribe in power having the most influence (think Solomonic dynasty narrative being used to portray the whole ET story).

it's not a black and white thing. It was done out of necessity to secure lands, borders, and resources away from colonizing westerners but now we have to deal with what actually happens when you bring all these different levels of education, wealth, and culture together. Similar to America's melting pot experiment without any of the resources or knowledge lol.


Pray for us. We one of the only ones fighting back colonialism with this dam issue (hi USA and Egypt) and now it seems internal conflict has taken our eye off the ball (same ol playbook move).

 

[HarlemHottie]

Pray for us. We one of the only ones fighting back colonialism with this dam issue (hi USA and Egypt) and now it seems internal conflict has taken our eye off the ball (same ol playbook move)

I'm personally a pagan. Im not sure who would hear me if i prayed.

But fukk outsiders in your shyt, period. You're an ancient ppl and deserve self determination, however that may shake out internally.

 

[SATAN]

Are you in a city with a lot of Ethiopians? Actually speaking the language helps a lot more than anything. My old job in Minneapolis was almost all East Africans so I heard Amharic and Tigrinya all day.

If you're not in DC or Minnesota it might be tough. Get started on the alphabet too

All languages are simple.

Hellll no

 

[George Gooney]

Are you in a city with a lot of Ethiopians? Actually speaking the language helps a lot more than anything. My old job in Minneapolis was almost all East Africans so I heard Amharic and Tigrinya all day.

If you're not in DC or Minnesota it might be tough. Get started on the alphabet too


Hellll no

I does this. Relax I know what I’m doing.