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:salute: Fellow polyglot. French, latin, classical Greek, enough Spanish to make due. #uptown :myman:


I was in Amsterdam for 3 wk and almost learned dutch. I could greet and do basic commerce. :smugbiden:
How you learn greek. Formally taught or on your own?
 
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Yep. Born in Addis, raised in the DMV. Went to Howard Law, did the firm and campaign thing and now I'm working on bringing Prometheus' fire back home.

It's going down back here currently but hopefully we stabilize soon so we can get back to business. God willing.




breh, what's the situation over there right now? I saw a post on here earlier this week that some violence broke out. Do you have details or can you recommend where I can get unfiltered facts?
 

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Yep. Born in Addis, raised in the DMV. Went to Howard Law, did the firm and campaign thing and now I'm working on bringing Prometheus' fire back home.
:salute:Appreciate the reference, see below.


How you learn greek. Formerly taught or on your own?
UG, majored in classical Greek history. :queen:
 

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Good luck to you bro Amharic is a hard language to learn I got family in Ethiopia that moved to the capital recently and they have trouble picking up on the language. I bet you'll manage though you clearly have a talent considering you learnt four other difficult languages.
 

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I’m studying Hebrew and working on the Alefbet for fun and personal beliefs. Learning an entirely different Alphabet and reading from the right to left takes some getting used to. I’ve always had the gift of picking up languages. It just comes natural to me, like some people that are born really good at Math.
:ehh:

If I studied and practiced more consistently, I could probably be a polyglot. Do you have any advice or techniques? I have a few.
:cheers:

Ok, so personally, i think that, when learning a language or a new language family, it's helpful to know the root. So, i grew up around Spanish speakers. Therefore, when i learned Latin and French, it just clarified what i already had picked up. Oh, and Italian too, i dabble.

Similarly, learning the little bit of dutch i picked up was largely based upon the Germanic roots of English. I could translate in real time whereas my man, monolingual, wasn't able to.

So, I'm thinking about taking on Arabic and Hebrew at once, since they share semitic roots. :jbhmm:The only problem is the different scripts/ alphabets. But i think that, with my knowledge of Greek, i can work backwards. (The Greek, and therefore Latin, alphabet is based on a semitic... re-telling :mjpls: of Egyptian hieroglyphs, the very first foreign language i dabbled in- ages 4-8, so early i barely remember but it all comes back). :ld:
 

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Ok, so personally, i think that, when learning a language or a new language family, it's helpful to know the root. So, i grew up around Spanish speakers. Therefore, when i learned Latin and French, it just clarified what i already had picked up. Oh, and Italian too, i dabble.

Similarly, learning the little bit of dutch i picked up was largely based upon the Germanic roots of English. I could translate in real time whereas my man, monolingual, wasn't able to.

So, I'm thinking about taking on Arabic and Hebrew at once, since they share semitic roots. :jbhmm:The only problem is the different scripts/ alphabets. But i think that, with my knowledge of Greek, i can work backwards. (The Greek, and therefore Latin, alphabet is based on a semitic... re-telling :mjpls: of Egyptian hieroglyphs, the very first foreign language i dabbled in- ages 4-8, so early i barely remember but it all comes back). :ld:

Interesting. I’ve never approached it like that. Arabic and Hebrew are related. You could benefit by learning both, and use them to build off of each other.
:ohhh:

Spanish, Italian, French, and Portuguese are all “Romance” languages, I believe. That’s why Italian sounds so similar to Spanish, and Portuguese is like French and Spanish mixed together.

Brazil has the largest “ Black” population out of any country outside of Africa. I would like to know a little Portuguese, but I don’t want to have too much on my plate. If I try to study a variety of different languages at once, I’ll just confuse myself. That’s kind of how my brain works.
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Maybe I can try Hebrew one week, and Arabic the next. Alternate them and use their similarities to my advantage. But like you said, they both have different alphabets and writing styles. The shyt is actually intimidating.
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Yep. Born in Addis, raised in the DMV. Went to Howard Law, did the firm and campaign thing and now I'm working on bringing Prometheus' fire back home.

It's going down back here currently but hopefully we stabilize soon so we can get back to business. God willing.
Respect bro. You're a real one. Came to america and learned the game then went back home to help your people.:myman: I salute you, OG.
 

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Yep. Born in Addis, raised in the DMV. Went to Howard Law, did the firm and campaign thing and now I'm working on bringing Prometheus' fire back home.

It's going down back here currently but hopefully we stabilize soon so we can get back to business. God willing.
Isn't a civil war about to happen over there?
 

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Good for you, breh.
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I’m only bilingual. I speak and write Spanish fluently (wife’s first language too). I can also speak very little French (studied in High School and College).
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I’m studying Hebrew and working on the Alefbet for fun and personal beliefs. Learning an entirely different Alphabet and reading from the right to left takes some getting used to. I’ve always had the gift of picking up languages. It just comes natural to me, like some people that are born really good at Math.
:ehh:

If I studied and practiced more consistently, I could probably be a polyglot. Do you have any advice or techniques? I have a few.
What’s your resource for hebrew
 

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breh, what's the situation over there right now? I saw a post on here earlier this week that some violence broke out. Do you have details or can you recommend where I can get unfiltered facts?

:salute:Appreciate the reference, see below.



UG, majored in classical Greek history. :queen:

Respect bro. You're a real one. Came to america and learned the game then went back home to help your people.:myman: I salute you, OG.

Isn't a civil war about to happen over there?



There is a whole lot of gossip and a little bit of facts right now.


PM is trying to establish law and order in the Tigray region and has gone as far as to announce a surgical strike team and aerial bombardment on key sites. This is meant to be specific towards TPLF but the narrative is being pushed that it's against Tigray as a whole. Due to the fact that people blamed the TPLF for the current situation and unfortunately have been taking it out on all Tigray people regardless if they benefitted or not. The TPLF has used that to push an agenda of, look they're coming after all tigrays. You don't want to be subjugated again, especially after all the shyt we pulled, so keep us in power or you're next.


A day before that, when PM moved troops from the south up north to fortify the border between Amhara and Tigray, the OLA came in to Wollega and slaughtered innocent amharas in a school yard to try to establish that non oromos aren't wanted there. The narrative here is anti Semitic and homogenous.

Also, there was the oromo protests that formed as a result of the recent murder of a prominent artist and activist named Aschalu. This came after years of tension due to The expansion of the federal city into the surrounding countryside (oromia). Then there's Burayu, legetafo, and so many other small examples, Then there's also the GERD (dam) and Egypt talking crazy. There's TPLFs everlasting beef with Eritrea and Isayas who is supporting Abiy and Tigray leadership is using to continue pushing fear but ultimately it bubbles down to this.


When TPLF came into power, they created a new constitution based on ethnic federalism; using nations and nationalities to segregate federated units. This was necessary at the time to prevent the federation from breaking apart but many warned of the long term implications.

30 years later, and Meles' grand experiment has resulted in people choosing tribe over nationality. (Aka I'm Tigray before I'm Ethiopian etc) and this new way of looking at the state along with decades of mistreatment and the ill handling of resources has led to the current
quagmire.



If you want to see what's going on, check Twitter tags like #Tigray #TPLF #Oromo #OromoProtests
 

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Interesting. I’ve never approached it like that. Arabic and Hebrew are related. You could benefit by learning both, and use them to build off of each other.
:ohhh:

Spanish, Italian, French, and Portuguese are all “Romance” languages, I believe. That’s why Italian sounds so similar to Spanish, and Portuguese is like French and Spanish mixed together.

Brazil has the largest “ Black” population out of any country outside of Africa. I would like to know a little Portuguese, but I don’t want to have too much on my plate. If I try to study a variety of different languages at once, I’ll just confuse myself. That’s kind of how my brain works.
:francis:

Maybe I can try Hebrew one week, and Arabic the next. Alternate them and use their similarities to my advantage. But like you said, they both have different alphabets and writing styles. The shyt is actually intimidating.
:sadcam:
Yay! Glad i had something to add.

Re: Hebrew vs Arabic, afaik, those two AND amharic descend from akkadian. (Akkadian speakers took over the near east, what you might know as sumeria, after the actual sumerians.)

In linguistics, i was taught to draw language trees. That's how you decipher unknown ancient languages, you find their cousins and back-translate. They gave us pop quizzes where we had to decipher some unknown native American language (chosen bc they knew that we knew the romance languages). It was fun. :skip:

Anyway, that's the tree. In theory, they should be as similar as french, Spanish, and Italian, but... they're not really.:patrice: The reason is, TIME. French, Italian, and Spanish have had, let's say, 2000 yrs to break off from their latin roots. The semitic languages have had at least double that time. But! Still, if you sound the words out, despite the different alphabets, they MAY be mutually intelligible to the astute. Like how i can read Italian from just knowing Latin, 2000 yrs apart.

:jbhmm: The key, i think, is to learn all the alphabets and their sounds. Then, once you know one vocab word, you kinda, loosely know them all, bc they sound similar even if they don't look similar. Vocab on semi lock, you move to grammar. Ancient languages are generally more... combobulated than their modern variations, unwieldy linguistically vs modern languages which are developed low key as an improvement on the old. It's helpful to understand a little about the old grammar, bc, just as an example from French, adjectives sometimes follow OR precede nouns. That's a clunky holdover from Latin. (In English, a more 'modern', trading language, our adjectives tend to precede the noun.)

So, if you know the old, you can easily 'keep track' of modern improvements and sort them out between the grandchildren of ther language you know.

That's just my way, tho. :manny: I like to take things in order and it seems more time efficient to learn the 'parent' first and then learn how the 'grand- children' differ. Ofc, my knowledge is of younger parents :heh:, but we'll see.


What resources are you using to learn Hebrew? :jbhmm:
 

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What’s your resource for hebrew

@HarlemHottie How do you feel about Oriental languages and their use of picture like characters in their alphabets? Mandarin is the world’s most spoken language. Mainly because there’s just a lot of Chinese people, but still.

Like...they’ll just draw a volcano and it will be the word for volcano.
:mjlol:

I ordered this book below. It’s a really great book, and there’s several exercises in every chapter. I also have study cards and watch YouTube videos too.

 
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