Blacc conservatives secretly believe white people are smarter than them

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Just because someone looks like you, doesn’t mean they think like you. Black people from the suburbs are generally viewed as less black, and treated as such.

If we keeping it real that's a backwards mentality that fuels the anti intellectualism in the "culture" hurting Black people more than anything.

 

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Most my family from Alabama & Georgia are blue collar, hard working folks. They tend to have homogenous communities. They will accept someone who say marries someone who's white or if a child is gay. They may not personally "understand" it but they will be kind to them and treat them nice.

A lot of southern Blacks are HIGHLY religious and this shows in many aspects of their lives.

Many are not for abortion. They understand a woman's right to choose but we just take care of the children if a pregnancy happens.

In some ways I think there's some degrees of being traditional there, not necessarily conservative. It's also not "liberal" necessarily. I'm speaking of more southern blacks here as I said and those that aren't living in a major metro city so hope that I described the nuances I see well.

To be liberal or conservative, I don't think you need to agree with everything that falls under that category. I know a lot of older black folks that don't agree with gay folks but we all got a gay relative that still welcomed over to get togethers. Religion is just a part of life in the south but in all honesty people pick and choose when they want to be religious. I would say that the southern black folks I know (myself included) are about community and helping each other. That makes me say that we are leftist by nature.

 

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Blaming Black mayors or Black leadership for the state of cities is lazy and ignores the bigger picture. You can't ignore how they've been gutted by decades and decades of systemic racism, white flight, economic disinvestment, and restrictive Federal policies. It's like with crime, you can't expect these issues to be fixed without addressing the root problems that caused this.

The struggles that many Black families face are the result of those same systemic barriers, not the root cause. Broken families didn't create redlining. They didn't create mass incarceration. They didn't create discriminatory hiring practices. They didn't create underfunded schools. They didn't create any of the root causes. Those are the policies that broke the families in the first place. It's not Black leadership or Black families that aren't working, at least in the way you believe, it's a system that has always been stacked against us. And without meaningful change, these issues will always persist.

That's not to say that personal and collective accountability isn't important. It is. There are things that we can do to better equip ourselves to challenge it more effectively and succeed despite it, but we can't do that by ignoring reality.

i never blamed black leadership.
Op asked if having more black folks in the Democratic Party would move blk folks forward. I said I don’t see much evidence of that being the case. Progress has to be measured by something meaningful—health, education/reading/math, wealth, home ownership, business, employment, assets, even family units, marriage, etc. There are two black mayors who have made an impact that I can think of —Marion Barry of DC and Harold Washington of Chicago(and he was on the multi cultural tip)… and even that was like 20-40 years ago. I haven’t gone thru this entire thread to see if someone has posted some real evidence and not feelings. OP asked me about other cities, so I shared the median income of other cities and we’re still at the bottom unfortunately.

I think LEADERSHIP is very important and shouldn’t be taken lightly. And I’m glad you pointed out the systemic issues and root causes. The government knows the root causes and the SOLUTIONS!—shouldn’t ending and eliminating these systemic issues be a top priority for these blk leaders? Shouldn’t every blk politician be advocating, campaigning and working to end these systemic issues? Shouldn’t they be working on ways to bring in jobs to the city? Investments to the city especially impoverished neighborhoods? Revitalization programs, tax incentives for companies moving to these zones—hiring from certain neighborhoods? Hell I barely even hear them talk about them. I just see most of these politicians as puppets, not populists. Whoever is funding them, that’s who they’re working for. Once again no education reform- the entire school board resigned this year…

Isn’t Detroit like 80% black? Yall could have a black mayor run a campaign on all types of issues and get so many blk folks behind him/her…and blk folks would move to Detroit…same with Baltimore who has a majority blk population… question is why don’t they? Cuz the dems…(neither party really) wants that progress to happen. But those arabs in Dearborn put their ppl and issues first. Koreans in K-town in LA put their ppl first. Chinese in SF put their ppl first

The true progressive democrats aren’t endorsed nor supported—Nina turner (left the party), Bernie sanders…I like Andrew yang (left the party)… you gotta play the game

How do yall define and/or measure group success/progress?