Bisping: 'Rockhold will not be my first defense', doesn't want Weidman either

[Master Teacher]

He also had a great fight against Browne more recently. Like I said tho, you can argue the rankings for some fighters, but they can be replaced by others.
Also, Heavyweight isn't the most technical division. I do agree that Arlovski's on his downfall but I doubt you can find many other fighters like that.

the fighters they beat still don't lack talent, your point still doesn't stand.

So UFC cards are stacked but copying the Boxing foramt doesn't work for MMA ?

Where did I say that?

I wasn't talking about the cards themselves, I was talking about the divisions and the rankings.

But you're such a dikk rider you can't even comprehend what I'm saying and you are getting defensive.

The title holding format and weight class system they got from boxing does not work in MMA because they simple do not have enough fighters.

The last card was rematches, two old guys Hendo and Lombard, a guy who got beat by Mcgregor against somebody nobody cares about and who will never contend for the belt

they've used up all their best fights already because of stacking cards.

After Cruz and Dillashaw, who fights for the belt worth watching

the fact hendo is in talks for getting a title shot after beating lombard, shows you the division has no fighters.

rockhold has beating every at mw except for Romero, but he can fight Weidman again to stall, but its just going to be the same 4 guys fighting each other over and over again just like every other division.

welterweight, who really cares?

155, besides RDA and Mcgregor, who cares, Cerrone is a gatekeeper, Pettis can't stay healthy and isn't capable of holding the belt for long anyway

MMA doesn't have the talent to sustain constant ppvs and title defenses

the tournament format was best, they still number the UFC's because of how the first tournaments were.

It's called Ultimate Fighting Chamionship, the winner of the tournament when's that title, calling every PPV UFC 200, 201, it's not the same thing.
The UFC is suppose to be like the super bowl with one fighter standing at the end of it, and then it starts over.

The tournament format worked better in Pride too.

 

[Triangularbirds]

he title holding format and weight class system they got from boxing does not work in MMA because they simple do not have enough fighters.

why does it not work ? the small roster means champions don't fight bums, like they often do in boxing sadly.

The last card was rematches, two old guys Hendo and Lombard, a guy who got beat by Mcgregor against somebody nobody cares about and who will never contend for the belt

It was also a very exciting card with a lot of skills being showcased because these are solid fighters fighting each other and not cans.

welterweight, who really cares?

welterweight has Lawler Thompson Rory Woodley Maia Condit Nelson, what do you mean who really cares ?

the fact hendo is in talks for getting a title shot after beating lombard, shows you the division has no fighters.

he's in talks because some people want to see a rematch against bisping, it doesn't mean no one else can get that title shot (obviously Jacare should get it, because Hendo was not that impressive in his last fight)

It's called Ultimate Fighting Chamionship, the winner of the tournament when's that title,

It's called the World Boxing Championship, the winner of the tournament wins that title.

MMA doesn't have the talent to sustain constant ppvs and title defenses

It does sustain constant ppvs and title defenses thoug

155, besides RDA and Mcgregor, who cares, Cerrone is a gatekeeper, Pettis can't stay healthy and isn't capable of holding the belt for long anyway

Barboza is an exciting fighter that wrecked Pettis, Cerrone has some of the best Muay Thai in all the UFC, RDA's last few fights were impressive, Khabib's been ragdolling dudes, Nate has some if not the best hands in the UFC, Poirier just had a very convincing win against Green.

 

[Master Teacher]

why does it not work ? the small roster means champions don't fight bums, like they often do in boxing sadly.

It was also a very exciting card with a lot of skills being showcased because these are solid fighters fighting each other and not cans.

welterweight has Lawler Thompson Rory Woodley Maia Condit Nelson, what do you mean who really cares ?

he's in talks because some people want to see a rematch against bisping, it doesn't mean no one else can get that title shot (obviously Jacare should get it, because Hendo was not that impressive in his last fight)

It's called the World Boxing Championship, the winner of the tournament wins that title.

It does sustain constant ppvs and title defenses thoug

Barboza is an exciting fighter that wrecked Pettis, Cerrone has some of the best Muay Thai in all the UFC, RDA's last few fights were impressive, Khabib's been ragdolling dudes, Nate has some if not the best hands in the UFC, Poirier just had a very convincing win against Green.

Small roster means they aren't any good enough fighters. Boxing don't fight bums often, they have to work their way up the rankings, and you can't put a boxer with 3 fights in the ring with a veteran because they would get fukked up and you would ruin the prospect, fighters need to grow, this why the rankings exist in boxing, you're just spewing rhetoric from internet morons who don't understand sports.

lawler was from the first era of UFC lmao, Rory isn't championship material, Woodley isn't exciting to watch, Maia isn't exciting and has done nothing his entire career, Condit is retired and he's already fought the best guys and could never win the title, nelson who cares? What has he done, he's not proven. Rory isn't a star, neither is woodley, neither is Nelson, neither is Maia. Rory, Woodley, and Nelson are the only new crop fighters in the division, like I said who cares?

There's no such thing as World Boxing Championship, they have boxing tournaments like the super six when they need to grown a champion for a division, but WBC stands for World Boxing Council and is a sanctioning body. Once again, you're talking about a sport you have no clue about.

Boxing has hundreds of elite fighters across the world, and doesn't rely on a ppvs to build interest of generate revenue, ppvs are reserved for the top star in sport.

UFC is basically 100 percent ppvs, and they have exhausted their entire roster at this point, with Mcgregor being the only fighter who can generate interest.

Cerrone is boring and is not championship material, he will never be a star even if he was champion.

UFC started out as a tournament, that's what made it exciting.

Royce won UFC 1, UFC 2, and UFC 4, the tournament fighting is what made it compelling.

They should've stuck with that, fighters wouldn't be getting injured all the time, and ppv fatigued won't settling it.

2015 was a good year for UFC, but before that they were struggling until Mcgregor and ronda gave them a boost.

2016, started of good because of Mcgregor, he's all they got left, and once he loses to Diaz again it's over.

 

[Triangularbirds]

There's no such thing as World Boxing Championship, they have boxing tournaments like the super six when they need to grown a champion for a division, but WBC stands for World Boxing Council and is a sanctioning body. Once again, you're talking about a sport you have no clue about.

big mistake on my part that was out of frustration because you keep using dumb argument based on your opinions, I got carried away on that one.

Boxing has hundreds of elite fighters across the world, and doesn't rely on a ppvs to build interest of generate revenue, ppvs are reserved for the top star in sport.

Boxing is a way way way bigger sport in general, it's a question of scale.

UFC is basically 100 percent ppvs, and they have exhausted their entire roster at this point, with Mcgregor being the only fighter who can generate interest.

and I'm the one talking out of my ass ? there's nothing true in that statement

awler was from the first era of UFC lmao, Rory isn't championship material, Woodley isn't exciting to watch, Maia isn't exciting and has done nothing his entire career, Condit is retired and he's already fought the best guys and could never win the title, nelson who cares? What has he done, he's not proven. Rory isn't a star, neither is woodley, neither is Nelson, neither is Maia. Rory, Woodley, and Nelson are the only new crop fighters in the division, like I said who cares?

Lawler is the current Welterweight champion and a fighter who's ready to go to war in every single one of his fights, Rory gave Lawler a good fight, but was bested and battered, still that was one of the most exciting recent fights. Woodley isn't exciting to watch, he's talented, Maia is a jiu jitsu monster, Condit has been an amazing and exciting career, the title doesn't matter here. You should stop saying who cares so much, the fact you're the WOAT here shows that your opinion are not popular ones so you shouldn't assume everyone thinks like you because that's obviously not the case.

Small roster means they aren't any good enough fighters. Boxing don't fight bums often, they have to work their way up the rankings, and you can't put a boxer with 3 fights in the ring with a veteran because they would get fukked up and you would ruin the prospect, fighters need to grow, this why the rankings exist in boxing, you're just spewing rhetoric from internet morons who don't understand sports.

They have to work their way up the rankings fighting non threatening no-names until they get 3-4 fights that people consider champion-worthy. In the UFC you just don't get that non threatening no-names part. And that's facts.
I'm not saying that's all of boxing in a nutshell, there are exceptions to that, a lot of them, but still compared to the UFC a lot of them are fighting dudes that came up in the rankings fighting character creation unknowns.

 

[Master Teacher]

big mistake on my part that was out of frustration because you keep using dumb argument based on your opinions, I got carried away on that one.


Boxing is a way way way bigger sport in general, it's a question of scale.

and I'm the one talking out of my ass ? there's nothing true in that statement

Lawler is the current Welterweight champion and a fighter who's ready to go to war in every single one of his fights, Rory gave Lawler a good fight, but was bested and battered, still that was one of the most exciting recent fights. Woodley isn't exciting to watch, he's talented, Maia is a jiu jitsu monster, Condit has been an amazing and exciting career, the title doesn't matter here. You should stop saying who cares so much, the fact you're the WOAT here shows that your opinion are not popular ones so you shouldn't assume everyone thinks like you because that's obviously not the case.

They have to work their way up the rankings fighting non threatening no-names until they get 3-4 fights that people consider champion-worthy. In the UFC you just don't get that non threatening no-names part. And that's facts.
I'm not saying that's all of boxing in a nutshell, there are exceptions to that, a lot of them, but still compared to the UFC a lot of them are fighting dudes that came up in the rankings fighting character creation unknowns.

lawler's already beaten Rory, like I said the divisions lack talent, you are recycling names. You talking about Condit, he's retired, he's in the past, you can't even name anyway other than the obvious names, thus proven my point. But you're such a dikk rider you can't even admit. Rory's already beaten woodley and Maia the other guys you mentioned. There's nobody else in the division worth mentioning they've all already fought each other.

UFC is 100 percent ppvs, for their revenue, this is a fact, without the ppvs you never see the highest rank fighters, when in boxing they generate interest without ppv.
This is a fact, they have way too many ppvs and they have run the well dry.

 

[Triangularbirds]

lawler's already beaten Rory, like I said the divisions lack talent, you are recycling names. You talking about Condit, he's retired, he's in the past, you can't even name anyway other than the obvious names, thus proven my point. But you're such a dikk rider you can't even admit. Rory's already beaten woodley and Maia the other guys you mentioned. There's nobody else in the division worth mentioning they've all already fought each other.

Condit's not officialy retired, also if you want other names, Magny is on a win streak, Gastelum and Hendricks are fighting on 200 which should be a good fight, Tumenov was rising but got beat by Nelson decisively, still pretty talented.

I think at this point you don't have much else to say and are just trying to say "no" to anything I say.

This is a fact, they have way too many ppvs and they have run the well dry.

No they haven't, people still buy pay per views and get excited for them, they're still putting out exciting and interesting fights.

Also, it's not the roster size that matters at this point it's more of the match-ups they can come up with that roster. Only taking 10 fighters in a division, that's 55 different possible fights, at least 60% of which are probably great match-ups.

If you take into account the roster rotation, with young guys coming up and being recruited into the UFC from the Ultimate Fighter or just scouting, it doesn't look like that much of a dry well to me.

UFC is 100 percent ppvs, for their revenue, this is a fact, without the ppvs you never see the highest rank fighters

How is this a problem ? You saying McGregor is the only fighter that can generate interest is crazy how are you that delusional