Bisping: 'Rockhold will not be my first defense', doesn't want Weidman either

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that's what's wrong with the sport, Dana and em can hear enough fans spouting this kind of nonsense then they make the fight on some "well it's what the fans want to see" knowing fully well they could easily wait until jacare is healthy or slot romero...


To even insinuate that jacare should have to take another fight after his streak and nature of the dusty finish of his last fight is :mindblown:
Belts don't mean much...Jacare and Bisping don't have a history...While Bisping VS Hendo is GREAT story...

Jacare's victory over Belfort wasn't impressive to me...Everybody been demolishing Vitor sense USADA came through and crushed the buildings...

Jacare was EASILY beaten by Romero a dude who ALWAYS runs out gas...
 

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Belts don't mean much...Jacare and Bisping don't have a history...While Bisping VS Hendo is GREAT story...

Jacare's victory over Belfort wasn't impressive to me...Everybody been demolishing Vitor sense USADA came through and crushed the buildings...

Jacare was EASILY beaten by Romero a dude who ALWAYS runs out gas...
and what's bis's sole strength? his cardio, all the reason to make Romero vs bisbing it sells itself. You'd rather put 2-2 in his last 4 (4-4 in his last 8 @ MW) fighter in a title fight over a dude on a 7 fight win streak who hasn't lost since 2011, just because he doesn't have history with the champion? Is this UFC or mean girls?
 

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and what's bis's sole strength? his cardio, all the reason to make Romero vs bisbing it sells itself. You'd rather put 2-2 in his last 4 (4-4 in his last 8 @ MW) fighter in a title fight over a dude on a 7 fight win streak who hasn't lost since 2011, just because he doesn't have history with the champion? Is this UFC or mean girls?
The current streak of champions losing should tell you that at ANY given fight night, anybody inside that Octagon can become champion...So, I don't care about win streaks and rankings...

I like certain fighters and I don't like certain fighters...I like the Bisping VS Hendo match-up...If Jacare never fights again in the UFC, I wouldn't care...What classics does he have? He beat an over the hill Vitor...Vitor been getting WRECKED lately...

I would like to see Bisping VS Hendo or Bsiping VS Romero and Rockhold vs Weidman for number 1 contender...

This is the great thing about the UFC...They make fights that people want to see...
 

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The current streak of champions losing should tell you that at ANY given fight night, anybody inside that Octagon can become champion
I don't need to see the current streak of champions losing to know that MMA is an unpredictable sport
...So, I don't care about win streaks and rankings...

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stopped reading here, very slippery slope, you sound like one of them just bleed fans. So in theory after Alexander houston made his debut and with all that fan fare you would be cool if he got a title fight? Scust
 

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I don't need to see the current streak of champions losing to know that MMA is an unpredictable sportstopped reading here, very slippery slope, you sound like one of them just bleed fans. So in theory after Alexander houston made his debut and with all that fan fare you would be cool if he got a title fight? Scust
I don't know who is Alexander Houston, but if he came in and WRECKED his opponent, and the UFC gave him a title shot, I would be okay with it...Why exactly should I be mad, if the fight has the potential to be a "barn burner" as they say?

I want to see potentially exciting match making, not rank based match making...If the UFC made Dominic Cruz VS Cody Garbrandt or Cody Garbrandt VS TJ Dillashaw I would welcome it...

I hate tactical fights with no aggression (point fighting)...This is NOT boxing...I believe a MMA fight should end with a CLEAR AS DAYLIGHT winner...Because on the streets there are no points, you either the dude who kicked @ss and remained standing or you are the dude who got his @ss kicked...

I don't think there is anything wrong for being this kind of a fan...I am a casual fan who doesn't care about the "game/sport" aspect of MMA, I love the "fight" aspect of it...

Just make the most exciting fights happen...Period.
 

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Vitor been getting WRECKED lately...
The same Vitor that WRECKED Hendo, who you want to see get a title shot ? :patrice:

The current streak of champions losing should tell you that at ANY given fight night, anybody inside that Octagon can become champion...So, I don't care about win streaks and rankings...
Doesn't mean you shouldn't match the best with the best, and that's what rankings are for.

Because on the streets there are no points, you either the dude who kicked @ss and remained standing or you are the dude who got his @ss kicked...
On the streets you don't fight for 3/5 5 minute rounds
 

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I don't know who is Alexander Houston, but if he came in and WRECKED his opponent, and the UFC gave him a title shot, I would be okay with it...Why exactly should I be mad, if the fight has the potential to be a "barn burner" as they say?
"Elizabeth I'm coming home" :deadmanny:

I want to see potentially exciting match making, not rank based match making...If the UFC made Dominic Cruz VS Cody Garbrandt or Cody Garbrandt VS TJ Dillashaw I would welcome it...
That is a ranked based match as Cody is 7 - 0 in a shallow division, Joe Silva would be well within his rights to throw him against the champ or x champ if they needed a big fight at that weight class
I hate[/b< tactical fights with no aggression (point fighting)...This is NOT boxing...I believe a MMA fight should end with a CLEAR AS DAYLIGHT winner...
everybody does to use that as an excuse to do away with having a ranking system is crazy and harkens to a time where there were no weightlclassess. Most casuals only watch the super bowl More often than not the actual game stinks is that a reason to do away with standings? Or do you just take the good with the bad?
Because on the streets there are no points, you either the dude who kicked @ss and remained standing or you are the dude who got his @ss kicked...

I don't think there is anything wrong for being this kind of a fan...I am a casual fan who doesn't care about the "game/sport" aspect of MMA, I love the "fight" aspect of it...

Just make the most exciting fights happen...Period.
you got that right and believe me I could tell, sadly you are the type the ufc is gearing towards :francis:
 
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I don't know who is Alexander Houston, but if he came in and WRECKED his opponent, and the UFC gave him a title shot, I would be okay with it...Why exactly should I be mad, if the fight has the potential to be a "barn burner" as they say?

I want to see potentially exciting match making, not rank based match making...If the UFC made Dominic Cruz VS Cody Garbrandt or Cody Garbrandt VS TJ Dillashaw I would welcome it...

I hate tactical fights with no aggression (point fighting)...This is NOT boxing...I believe a MMA fight should end with a CLEAR AS DAYLIGHT winner...Because on the streets there are no points, you either the dude who kicked @ss and remained standing or you are the dude who got his @ss kicked...

I don't think there is anything wrong for being this kind of a fan...I am a casual fan who doesn't care about the "game/sport" aspect of MMA, I love the "fight" aspect of it...

Just make the most exciting fights happen...Period.

You're a moron. Boxing is point fighting lol, since when, UFC has more decisions then boxing on the regular.

Floyd mayweather has more stoppages than any UFC fighter in the history of the sport and he's not known for finish fights because casuals never heard of him until he was over 30 and moved up five weight classes.

the last PBC free TV card every fight ended in a KO lmao.

nate diaz has the most finishes in UFC history by way of submissions and KO's combined which is 15 lmao.

GSP's last 7 fights all ended by decision. jon jones last four fights ended in decision.

Sport is about the best competing against the best, without rankings it isn't a sport, and might as well go back to the tournament format he started with, which would make more sense because UFC doesn't have enough talent to have rankings in the first place.
 

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Floyd mayweather has more stoppages than any UFC fighter in the history of the sport and he's not known for finish fights because casuals never heard of him until he was over 30 and moved up five weight classes.
Floyd Mayweather has way more fights than any UFC fighter in the history of the sport, how are you making a point with this ? :dahell:

nate diaz has the most finishes in UFC history by way of submissions and KO's combined which is 15 lmao.
He's got 11 finishes, not 15 so that's 50% finishes which is pretty close to Mayweather's finish %age too
Sport is about the best competing against the best, without rankings it isn't a sport, and might as well go back to the tournament format he started with, which would make more sense because UFC doesn't have enough talent to have rankings in the first place.
Every weight class's top 10 is full of talent bruh what are you saying ? The UFC rankings are definitely arguable when it comes to certain fighters, but the lack of talent isn't the reason for that at all.
 
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Floyd Mayweather has way more fights than any UFC fighter in the history of the sport, how are you making a point with this ? :dahell:


He's got 11 finishes, not 15 so that's 50% finishes which is pretty close to Mayweather's finish %age too

Every weight class's top 10 is full of talent bruh what are you saying ? The UFC rankings are definitely arguable when it comes to certain fighters, but the lack of talent isn't the reason for that at all.

Ok Eroll Spence is 20 and 0 and has 17 KO's, Floyd had the same amount of KO's when he was 20-0 he stopped getting KO's when he go old and moved up to higher rates. Most boxing fights end in KO, that's my point. Only when two elite fighters fight it's hard to score a KO in boxing. Instead of arguing with me, why don't you check the guy spewing bullshyt.

Nate Diaz has 15 finishes, he broke Anderson Silva's record against Mcgregor, another example of mma fans not knowing any facts about the sport they claim they support.the percentage doesn't matter I wasn't comparing him to Mayweather, I was comparing the fact they claim he doesn't knock anyone out. Also Nate Diaz is just the exception he's not the norm in MMA, most MMA fighters do not finishes fights look at their records. They go on a streak and then they always tapper off with the stoppages. So the claim is just bogus.

Every weight class's top 10 is not filled with talent, you are crazy. Arloski is ranked 7th at heavyweight lmao. Outside of Weidman, Rockhold, and Romero, there's nobody at middleweight, and their all their 30's.

MMA never had deep talent, that's why it's so easy to clean out divisions.

Only division that was stacked was light heavyweight and jon jones has depleted that division to the point it's like the others.

UFC should've stayed in tournament format like how it started, but they had to copy boxing and it doesn't work with MMA.
 

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Nate Diaz has 15 finishes,
not in the UFC he doesn't.
Every weight class's top 10 is not filled with talent, you are crazy. Arloski is ranked 7th at heavyweight lmao. Outside of Weidman, Rockhold, and Romero, there's nobody at middleweight, and their all their 30's.
Arlovski isn't talented ? Middleweight doesn't have Silva, Hall, Mousasi, Machida ?
Only division that was stacked was light heavyweight and jon jones has depleted that division to the point it's like the others.
Jones is arguably the #1 P4P in the UFC.
And that argument is garbage, because someone is dominant in a division does not mean the division sucks, are you that simple minded that you think being beaten by the best means you're bad ?
UFC should've stayed in tournament format like how it started, but they had to copy boxing and it doesn't work with MMA.
Meanwhile UFC cards are stacked and you're trying to say this like it's facts.
 
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not in the UFC he doesn't.

Arlovski isn't talented ? Middleweight doesn't have Silva, Hall, Mousasi, Machida ?

Nate Diaz fought in the WEC, which is the UFC's lighter divisions, so his finishes there count for UFC finishes, so he has the most in UFC history.

Jones is arguably the #1 P4P in the UFC.
And that argument is garbage, because someone is dominant in a division does not mean the division sucks, are you that simple minded that you think being beaten by the best means you're bad ?

Meanwhile UFC cards are stacked and you're trying to say this like it's facts.

Arlovski is old and washed up, he lost his belt to tim slyvia who got knocked out by 50 year old Ray Mercer who's a boxer. He got knocked the fukk out by Fedor who's washed up. Arlovski is from the first era of the UFC when the fighters had very limited skills, yet he's ranked number 7 today, he's trash, he lost to Anthony Johnson who isn't even a heavyweight.

Jon Jones is pound of pound number 1 there's no argument, but that's not the point, Cormier beat all the best guys too already, Anthony johson has beat all the top guys except for Comier and Jones lmao, there's no fights to be mad.

UFC cards are stack because they have different divisions all at once on ppv along with women, the divisions by themselves are not stacked at all. It's just not true,
 

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Arlovski is old and washed up, he lost his belt to tim slyvia who got knocked out by 50 year old Ray Mercer who's a boxer. He got knocked the fukk out by Fedor who's washed up. Arlovski is from the first era of the UFC when the fighters had very limited skills, yet he's ranked number 7 today, he's trash, he lost to Anthony Johnson who isn't even a heavyweight.
He also had a great fight against Browne more recently. Like I said tho, you can argue the rankings for some fighters, but they can be replaced by others.
Also, Heavyweight isn't the most technical division. I do agree that Arlovski's on his downfall but I doubt you can find many other fighters like that.
Cormier beat all the best guys too already, Anthony johson has beat all the top guys except for Comier and Jones lmao, there's no fights to be mad.
the fighters they beat still don't lack talent, your point still doesn't stand.
UFC cards are stack because they have different divisions all at once on ppv along with women, the divisions by themselves are not stacked at all. It's just not true,
So UFC cards are stacked but copying the Boxing foramt doesn't work for MMA ? :jbhmm:
 
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