Billy Carson EXPOSED!

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Thats what I mean

A LOT of the bible is up for interpretation and there are many kinds/types.

Billy never bothered me because he always stated that it was HIS OPINION.

If it wasn’t directly written somewhere, it’s his opinion and he stresses it.

I’ve seen this Wes dude make vids on Billy before, I never seen Billy make vids on him.

I seen dude before, and he has it out for Billy imo. Like most Christians I think. What Billy is actually doing is calling all those kinds of dudes grifters which is why theure hot. Theyre doing the same thing Billy does and monetize content.

Like I said, I never took what dude said and believed it. I thought it was an interesting take and Billy Carson isn’t the only one with that take. Even three letter agencies have written about coming to the same conclusions. Even the Grandmaster of the Templar Knights (who I know that white boy won’t debate) has come to the same conclusions.

Ultimately, let people think what they want. Billy got “checked” but I don’t believe in that Wes dude and think Billy was unprepared for that kind of “Debate”.

And Carson has never said God wasn’t real, or that Jesus wasn't real. He stated what he BELIEVED and why. He doesn’t believe that the Bible we have now wasn’t tampered with and adjusted to say certain things or omit certain things. I think I agree at this point, not because of Billy Carson though.



I have to push back. I have heard Billy Carson say a million times this isn’t me saying this, this is this bible saying. This scripture saying that. This scroll saying this. This tablet saying that.. look it up!

When Billy was confronted with those books being fake he tapped out. Not only that he could t explain things he claimed he read and knew.


You are right . Billy has always said God, Jesus, Satan, Noah were are real. He just believed they were being presented the wrong way with the wrong names.

I don’t believe him but I have no issue with that :manny:
 

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Like which texts?

Like I said, did he have the shyt in front of him?
Nah. This is about a “alternative history” grifter not doing his research on the sources he uses.

All he had to do is actually study the material and topics he speaks on and nobody could say shyt to him. But the clout and influencer money was too strong so he threw all ethics out the window.






Trying to automatically make it about race before you do your research on the situation is how our community keeps getting infiltrated by these new era social media grifters


Dude called Billy out on the statements Billy himself was making. He called him out on the texts Billy brought up to back those statements. Billy shouldn’t need to have the texts in front of him in order to not twist the truth of the context of his sources.

It’s not like the white guy was bringing up random texts to try to outsmart Billy… he was just calling Billy out on Billy’s own understanding and previous statements on the texts Billy chose to use as his source.

Billy has been traveling and pushing his perspective all over social media. If somebody calls him out on a falsehood… Billy shouldn’t get a pass because he doesn’t have the text in front of him… he should know the basics of the documents he has been using to grow his influencer/social media following and exposure.
 

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It's sad because there are posters in here acting like Billy's publicist as though Billy hasn't been repeatedly consecutively lying about the bible

Billy had been running with the same lies for years without being challenged on it and now just dismissed his own years long narratives as "I misspoke"

That's what's embarrassing because he spoke passionately for years on the same specific claims he backed off of.




Yeah thats where he lost hellla credibility with me too.

You cant be on hellla different platforms helllla times on video/audio quoting specifically the “Sinai Bible” says “xyzxyz”.

Then when somebody calls you out on it during a debate, all of a sudden you “misquoted” :dead:


So you just been misquoting for all these years and just pivot to “Gospel of Barnabus” on the spot :dead:

Which was allegedly outed as a forgery :dead:



Then he conceded so easily to these points and attempted to just move right on. I was actually disappointed watching the way Billy handled the debate as I’ve never seen him look so weak. :francis::gucci:
 
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Yeah thats where he lost hellla credibility with me too.

You cant be on hellla different platforms hellll times on tape quoting specifically the “Sinai Bible” says “xyzxyz”.

Then when somebody calls you out on it during a debate, all if a sudden you “misquoted” :dead:


So you just been misquoting for all these years and just pivot to “Gospel of Barnabus” on the spot :dead:

Which was allegedly outed as a forgery :dead:



Then he conceded so easily to these points and attempted to just move right on. I was actually disappointed watching the way Billy handled the debate as I’ve never seen him look so weak. :francis::gucci:



Wes telling him the gospel of Barnabus was fake had me heated. Not because he said it because Billy didn’t defend it.

Is it fake? Maybe. I know that apocrypha was real so I have to know that Billy knows that, and has read all about it in the biblical sense. He has to know, he depends on so many books that aren’t widely accepted.

There’s no way Wes would believe the gospel anyway. It says Jesus was a prophet and not gods son. It also says Judas took Jesus place on the cross.

I don’t agree with any of that, but it’s ok if Billy
does.
 

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Wes telling him the gospel of Barnabus was fake had me heated. Not because he said it because Billy didn’t defend it.

Is it fake? Maybe. I know that apocrypha was real so I have to know that Billy knows that, and has read all about it in the biblical sense. He has to know, he depends on so many books that aren’t widely accepted.

There’s no way Wes would believe the gospel anyway. It says Jesus was a prophet and not gods son. It also says Judas took Jesus place on the cross.

I don’t agree with any of that, but it’s ok if Billy
does.


This is why Billy damaged himself because after being told the shyt and sources he’s been citing for YEARS is untrue and fake/forged/uncredible, and you dont even look surprised or defend them? nikka said “ah ok if you say its fake/forged then I respect and accept that”

Like WHAT.

nikka was sittin there acting as if this man didnt just completely discredit years worth of talks you’ve been giving and profiting off of. It was a huge red flag which is clearly why Billy is crashing out tryna do all this Drake-like damage control.

The man coulda at least said, “nah my nikka yall trippin, thats not true. We’ll agree to disagree on that” :troll:

OR


“Wait what? Wow thats wild I never knew that, im gonna have to go do some digging or actually tell me more! We gotta get together on some stuff and come to an understanding” :mjgrin:

Either one looks better than this crashout attempt :dead:
 

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Here’s an epic live fact check/reaction to Billy’s full crashout livestream response to the debate aka “de-fake”


 
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The guy didn't even body Billy like that...

He showed Billy wrong on a couple points concerning Jesus and something about the bible.

If Billy wasn't such a narcissist he wouldn't be out here losing his mind and just relent he's not a biblical scholar.

Him losing this debate doesn't damage his actual "teachings/grifting" on NHI.

Billy lost on virtually every topic and exited early :russ:

I’m no scholar or genius but most Billy’s claims are basically ancient cultures passed down oral traditions which cannot be fact tested or proven to be reality as opposed to ancient tales, myths and legends passed down by tradition from tribe to tribe

Meanwhile in modern times these cultures are long gone and have no impact on our current lives. Their kingdoms are gone. They have no writings to tell their story or attest to their former glory because they’ve been conquered and the regions where they lived are in ruins or poverty

We’ve moved on as a society

Except the ANCIENT HEBREW religion and the Jews run the world because their religious texts have been written and preserved and put in practice consistently over the years

And then JESUS who was a Jew coincidentally is the most famous and influential person to ever live and we have reliable documents, first hand accounts testimony and other evidence to prove what he said/did that made him so special

Not sure Billy’s angle in any of the info he was bringing up other than pure entertainment and fantasy regarding aliens alternate dimensions and stories of ancient cultures of the past.

But him trying to discredit Christianity while being even less credible in explaining what he believes to be true and contradicting Abrahamic “religion” just backfired the entire video

Plus the moderator/host guy just kills the vibe. Seems like he needs to work out his own issues in his personal faith
 

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Billy lost on virtually every topic and exited early :russ:

I’m no scholar or genius but most Billy’s claims are basically ancient cultures passed down oral traditions which cannot be fact tested or proven to be reality as opposed to ancient tales, myths and legends passed down by tradition from tribe to tribe

Meanwhile in modern times these cultures are long gone and have no impact on our current lives. Their kingdoms are gone. They have no writings to tell their story or attest to their former glory because they’ve been conquered and the regions where they lived are in ruins or poverty

We’ve moved on as a society

Except the ANCIENT HEBREW religion and the Jews run the world because their religious texts have been written and preserved and put in practice consistently over the years

And then JESUS who was a Jew coincidentally is the most famous and influential person to ever live and we have reliable documents, first hand accounts testimony and other evidence to prove what he said/did that made him so special

Not sure Billy’s angle in any of the info he was bringing up other than pure entertainment and fantasy regarding aliens alternate dimensions and stories of ancient cultures of the past.

But him trying to discredit Christianity while being even less credible in explaining what he believes to be true and contradicting Abrahamic “religion” just backfired the entire video

Plus the moderator/host guy just kills the vibe. Seems like he needs to work out his own issues in his personal faith



Yeah the moderator was literally retarded
 

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Yeah man this always had me like :gucci:


I more connect with spirituality than religion because I do feel religion is just spirituality corrupted by man.

Spirituality is the core beliefs without the wackiness in my opinion.

And im not knocking religious people as a whole, there’s definitely a lot of amazing religious people out there.

Notice the statement “there are many stories about Jesus before Jesus”

Has no proof or documentation to back it up or even explanation.

Just a random attack on Christianity billy Carson style which any scholar can debunk

For example, the Jewish Torah prophesied Jesus and many religions and traditions in ancient cultures talk the coming of a “messiah” figure

Like @MMS I think most ancient beliefs have been corrupted but still hold some fraction of truth in their stories

However Jesus actually lived historically and 100% the truth according to himself
 

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he is all over TikTok. some of the stuff is ai and not really him but I’m pretty sure I saw a video of him talking about the Bible and yeshua and the comment he made, made me think he doesnt know what he talking about and just repeated a talking point. he should know better to do your own research. it’s still interesting to watch his videos. Until I do my own research it’s entertainment for me. I’m one of those people who believe the second testament is some bullshyt but im not ready to debate that yet. It’s just my belief at this point.
 

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Notice the statement “there are many stories about Jesus before Jesus”

Has no proof or documentation to back it up or even explanation.

Just a random attack on Christianity billy Carson style which any scholar can debunk

For example, the Jewish Torah prophesied Jesus and many religions and traditions in ancient cultures talk the coming of a “messiah” figure

Like @MMS I think most ancient beliefs have been corrupted but still hold some fraction of truth in their stories

However Jesus actually lived historically and 100% the truth according to himself
Do you believe Peasant was a real serf? in the land of henenseten? @010101 or has it been corrupted by a higher power?
There once lived in the Salt Country of Sekhet Hemat a peasant, named Peasant, with his wife and children, his asses and his dogs. Peasant trafficked in all good things of the Salt Country, conveying them to Henenseten in the desert to the south. Regularly he traveled with rushes, natron, and salt, with wood and pods, with stones and seeds, and all good products of the Salt Country.

Also according to the Midrash,[18] Sisera had previously conquered every country against which he had fought. His voice was so strong that, when he called loudly, the most solid wall would shake and the wildest animal would fall dead. Deborah was the only one who could withstand his voice and not be stirred from her place. Sisera caught enough fish in his beard when bathing in the Kishon to provision his whole army, and thirty-one kings followed Sisera merely for the opportunity of drinking, or otherwise using, the waters of Israel.[13]
 

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To have credibility you have to do basic research and study up on your facts so people cant smear you as a fraud, its sad that this era of social media has allowed the hot takes and extravagant behaviour to be what gives attention rather than substantive fact based approaches to the issues
 

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Dude called Billy out on the statements Billy himself was making. He called him out on the texts Billy brought up to back those statements. Billy shouldn’t need to have the texts in front of him in order to not twist the truth of the context of his sources.

It’s not like the white guy was bringing up random texts to try to outsmart Billy… he was just calling Billy out on Billy’s own understanding and previous statements on the texts Billy chose to use as his source.

Billy has been traveling and pushing his perspective all over social media. If somebody calls him out on a falsehood… Billy shouldn’t get a pass because he doesn’t have the text in front of him… he should know the basics of the documents he has been using to grow his influencer/social media following and exposure.
Thats exactly what I mean

Buddy was doing research just to try and counter what Billy said with shyt that can be interpreted however tf you want to interpret it

Like I said, I dont trust white dude because what Billy is saying isnt new
 

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I have to push back. I have heard Billy Carson say a million times this isn’t me saying this, this is this bible saying. This scripture saying that. This scroll saying this. This tablet saying that.. look it up!

When Billy was confronted with those books being fake he tapped out. Not only that he could t explain things he claimed he read and knew.


You are right . Billy has always said God, Jesus, Satan, Noah were are real. He just believed they were being presented the wrong way with the wrong names.

I don’t believe him but I have no issue with that :manny:
And I have also heard him say this is my opinion when it is not text to read from or cote or even when it’s an interpretation. Again, one of the reason I checked his vids for a while.

He is usually reading some shyt when he says “this is the Bible saying this”. Billy Carson is also NOT a Bible expert… he didn’t go to school to read the Bible but there are people in his camp that have and they also worked for those 3 letter agencies as well.

My mother tries to get me to listen to this nikka, I told her him and that 19 Keys nikka are scammy.

She won't like this :mjgrin:
I do think 19 Keys is scammy


nikkas just need to learn how to hear shyt and not let it effect you. I havent seen a Billy Carson vid in months until yesterday

And WHAT books being fake?

The Ethiopian Bible? The Sumerian texts? All those other books that were found and left out? Is the Council of Nicea fake too?

Personally, I’ve heard Billys take on religion (more so Christianity) and I’m still on the fence about his opinions because they are his.. not mines, but I have no problem objectively listening even if I don’t completely agree and move on. Not call people a grifter for doing the same shyt youre doing. I do think he is right on some things, just like I dont think Christians are entirely wrong.

I think he is right about the Catholic church (I say that because of the Grandmaster Templar Knight saying similar things but with more detail) and I do think he is correct about Ancient Egypt. Only because I’ve seen documents that discusses momentarily and how other “Fringe” archaeologists feel the same. I think he is incorrect somewhat on Jesus but I think he is correct about Jesus’s life that was missing only because he said he went there.

(Speaking of Jesus, did white dude even agree that his real name was Yeshua..since the letter J didn’t even exist).

just screaming “It’s fake” doesn’t mean anything to me and I have nothing against Billy Carson. I have nothing against whiteboy either, but I stumbled across one of his vids awhile ago and he was going line for line with one regular Bible trying to dissect an interview Billy did awhile ago.

Thats grifting behavior. Say what you feel like you need to say then move on. These clowns were attacking dudes family too… gonna be funny if Carson is actually right somehow
 
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