Billie Eilish Says Men Don’t Face Criticism About Their Bodies because "Girls Are Nice"

[murksiderock]

Dude came here ready to deflect and change the argument for no reason. Most brehs in here didn't even say men had it equally bad, most of us were just saying it obvious happens


Okay, and I've had shortgang friends that I've seen get rejected directly for their height, and I have had teachers literally not care or even subtly participate in making fun of some boys' bodies.

I'm not denying that men get shytted on about their bodies sometimes, it does happen...

The height thing, I've never seen aside from clowning with the homies once in a blue, like I have a homie around 6'2 who fat as hell, we stay joking when we talk, fam be like "you old 5'2 ass nikka" or I'll be like "wassup fat boy", light shyt like that...

My height never comes up in any substantive conversation, and neither do most regular brothers I know. I've heard women state a preference or type for tall brothers, but women are notoriously bad at measurements. They really only care that you're taller than them, and even then, they'll mess with brothers shorter than them who are popping...

I hear more about male height waaayyy more on here than I hear on real life, like 50 to every one time I hear in real life, and probably more than that. I never hear or see it. And I'm convinced that brothers who are secure in their own skin don't have this problem whether they are short or fat or ugly or rail thin or whatever. As a shorter man I'm convinced the cats who get rejected based on height project that insecurity and/or are just not confident in their own skin...

 

[Art Barr]

Okay malcolm in the middle with a woman wig on.


Ol Frankie face.


Art Barr

 

[JNew]

whole thread can be summed up as follows... who cares shows us your t*ts.

 

[TEH]

But they judge ya money, height, teeth, car, hairline

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[Low End Derrick]

Prince 5'2"
Paul Simon 5'3"
Eazy-E 5'3"
Bruno Mars 5'5"
Lil' Wayne 5'5"
Bono 5'5"
Willie Nelson 5'6"
Kendrick Lamar 5'6"
Phil Collins 5'6"
Cee Lo Green 5'6"
Omarion 5'6"
Big Boi 5'6"
Michael Jackson 5'7"
Bob Dylan 5'7"
Bow Wow 5'7"
Pitbull 5'7"
DJ Khaled 5'7"
Mac Miller 5'7"
Ice Cube 5'8"
Eminem 5'8"
Ludacris 5'8"


None of them had their height talked about with anything like the kind of venom that Billie Ellish's weight and body in general are/were talked about.

Shorty's face on the lower right says it all.

 

[MuzzyP]

I'm going to stop you right there chief. You're trying to turn this into a pissing contest when the threshold that I have to meet is simply demonstrating that men receive criticism for their appearance.

That is enough to refute her claim that men do not receive criticism for their bodies.

Women are criticized on things within their control like fat, tattoos, lesbian haircuts.

Men are criticized on things they can't control like height, baldness, and dikk size.

 

[Fillerguy]

Prince 5'2"
Paul Simon 5'3"
Eazy-E 5'3"
Bruno Mars 5'5"
Lil' Wayne 5'5"
Bono 5'5"
Willie Nelson 5'6"
Kendrick Lamar 5'6"
Phil Collins 5'6"
Cee Lo Green 5'6"
Omarion 5'6"
Big Boi 5'6"
Michael Jackson 5'7"
Bob Dylan 5'7"
Bow Wow 5'7"
Pitbull 5'7"
DJ Khaled 5'7"
Mac Miller 5'7"
Ice Cube 5'8"
Eminem 5'8"
Ludacris 5'8"


None of them had their height talked about with anything like the kind of venom that Billie Ellish's weight and body in general are/were talked about.

I don't think this is a fair comparison because they have fame and wealth. If they were broke nobodies, these men would be clowned to hell. SM is carried by viral videos of skinny, fat, short, bad and weird looking men being teased by strangers from around the world. Dating apps try alleviating height discrimination (and to other male physical features) by creating algorithms yet fail regularly.

The average male faces just as much body dismorphia as women and these new dudes got it worse due to roasting being a sport on SM. Its bullying or toxic masculinity when the focus is on women, but it doesn't exist or is just jokes when the lens is on men. And the worst part of about it is that men, a gender that has been conditioned to be socially inept from birth, have little to no public support on these issues.

So Billie can rightfully complain about man/woman body double standards, but if a man does it, people bring up some of the successful men in history....who happen to be short, as if that means anything


Then again, Billie only knows the life of a young rich celebrity so her perception is her reality. Plus is barely lived life. What she's saying doesn't apply to most women, men or the interactions between the two.

 

[moorfeus]

Bullshyt, people are just so used to being mean to men that its considered normal. The world will let your ass know that you are fat, ugly, too short, disabled, etc. relentlessly if you are a man. The only leeway we get is if we are handsome. Women and even men to a degree are nicer to you when you have good genetics.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I don't think this is a fair comparison because they have fame and wealth. If they were broke nobodies, these men would be clowned to hell.

It's a fair comparison because it's a direct comparison to the person in the OP. Billie Eilish had fame and wealth too, yet she was constantly attacked and body-shamed throughout her teenage years despite being almost completely normal in weight.

Did you see the list of photos I posted of people mocking her and calling her fat? Like they went to all that fukking effort to make her look fat that they were literally making photoshops and cartoons of her, and they keep producing hundreds of those from the beginning of her career all the way until now. When is anyone ever going to devote that energy into criticizing a prominant man's appearance?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Okay malcolm in the middle with a woman wig on.


Ol Frankie face.


Art Barr

whole thread can be summed up as follows... who cares shows us your t*ts.

Women are criticized on things within their control like fat, tattoos, lesbian haircuts.

Men are criticized on things they can't control like height, baldness, and dikk size.

Ironic that those were the two comments almost immediately above yours. And plenty earlier in the thread were even worse.

Black women in particular are criticized constantly for their face, their lack of hair, their build, the size of their ass (too big or not big enough), the size of their breasts, the size of their feet, and plenty of other shyt that ain't in their control. Look at even public figures whose work has NOTHING to do with their appearance. AOC is constantly either mocked because of her teeth or instead objectified and inserted into fake porn. MTG is made fun of for being ugly. Michelle Obama was criticized for her arms being too muscular, then had the internet calling her a trans man in a wig. Every teens and 20s actress in Hollywood who isn't anorexic is called fat, at 30 they're called cracked and washed, and by 40 they have to kiss any romantic roles goodbye. Meanwhilemen in their 50s and 60s are regularly playing love interests with women in the 20s and 30s. [and just two comments below me, like clockwork another male poster mocks her appearance and claims she looks too old.]

Also, weird to tell a woman she's criticized because she hasn't "controlled" her weight when the whole thing about Billie Eilish was that as a teeneger she was constantly fat-shamed on the internet even though she was a normal weight.

 

[Will Ross]

No you aren't, what world do you guys live in?

I'm 34 and 5'7 and been short my entire life and the only time I ever hear about it is on here I'm out living and loving life and stretching women sideways and never hear about my height

Men super conscious about their height may project that insecurity or something, because I don't know fam. It's literally never been a hindrance to bagging anything or doing anything or being accepted socially, I'm normally the most popping brother in any room I walk into...

I’m not saying short men can’t be successful with women. I’m saying society generally shames men for being short.

 

[Mindfield333]

Wasn’t she just 18? How does she look 30 now?

 

[KidJSoul]

I'm not denying that men get shytted on about their bodies sometimes, it does happen...

The height thing, I've never seen aside from clowning with the homies once in a blue, like I have a homie around 6'2 who fat as hell, we stay joking when we talk, fam be like "you old 5'2 ass nikka" or I'll be like "wassup fat boy", light shyt like that...

My height never comes up in any substantive conversation, and neither do most regular brothers I know. I've heard women state a preference or type for tall brothers, but women are notoriously bad at measurements. They really only care that you're taller than them, and even then, they'll mess with brothers shorter than them who are popping...

I hear more about male height waaayyy more on here than I hear on real life, like 50 to every one time I hear in real life, and probably more than that. I never hear or see it. And I'm convinced that brothers who are secure in their own skin don't have this problem whether they are short or fat or ugly or rail thin or whatever. As a shorter man I'm convinced the cats who get rejected based on height project that insecurity and/or are just not confident in their own skin...

Breh that's just your experience. Plenty of dudes have directly been insulted and rejected for things like their height, frame, being fat. Just because YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

 

[KidJSoul]

I’m not saying short men can’t be successful with women. I’m saying society generally shames men for being short.

I don't get why some dudes in here are fronting, it's weird.

 

[Will Ross]

I don't get why some dudes in here are fronting, it's weird.

As men we are told not to talk about our insecurities.