Bill requiring porn sites to verify user age in Virginia signed into law

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I thought about that. Gave it some real consideration, but then I asked myself am I that thirsty? I fukk my wife on the regular still. I flirt with other women sometimes and could prolly pull the trigger on one of them. So, am I that thirsty? For right now. No. :yeshrug:
 

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how do we stop minors from getting cigarettes and alcohol?


Underage Drinking in the United States (ages 12 to 20)

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Underage drinking in the United States. In 2022, 956 drivers under age 21 were alcohol-impaired when involved in motor vehicle fatal crashes. Source: NHTSA FARS, 2024.

Prevalence of Lifetime Drinking

According to the 2022 National Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH), 13.2 million people ages 12 to 20 (34.2% in this age group) reported that they have had at least one drink in their lives.1,2 This includes:

6.5 million males ages 12 to 20 (32.3% in this age group)1,2
6.8 million females ages 12 to 20 (36.3% in this age group)1,2
101,000 American Indian or Alaska Native people ages 12 to 20 (31.1% in this age group)1,2
536,000 Asian people ages 12 to 20 (21.9% in this age group)1,2
1.4 million Black or African American people ages 12 to 20 (27.2% in this age group)1,2
7.3 million White people ages 12 to 20 (37.8% in this age group)1,2
447,000 people of two or more races ages 12 to 20 (34.7% in this age group)1,2
3.4 million Hispanic or Latino people ages 12 to 20 (34.2% in this age group)1,2
Estimates for Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander people ages 12 to 20 were not presented because they were based on a relatively small number of respondents or had a large margin of error.1,2




I refuted that argument already...


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If I wanted to buy alcohol or cigarettes, the government doesn't check my ID, the cashier does and they don't record my name, address and the time/location of what and where I purchased it. it's a anonymous transaction. in fact I could go to a deli and pay with a debit card and the transaction wouldn't register as a purchase of alcohol.

the government will know who you are because individuals are literally using a state I.D to access adult websites, they'll know the time you accessed it, your ip address within the state which will also give them an approximation of where you are/were at the time, the government will eventually know what content you view since all these huge sites have previously watch list for user accounts.

this policy is a massive invasion of privacy and they have to know it doesn't work because it's been ineffective in every country thats implemented it. so if they know it doesn't work, to what ends are they willing to pursue this policy?

do you support systems like chinas "great firewall"?

they dog walking people like you into supporting laws that are draconian.
 

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Pornhub to leave five more states over age-verification laws​


The new laws are aimed at protecting minors, but have raised questions about broader online privacy issues.​

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Wed, June 19, 2024 at 3:49 PM EDT·2 min read

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Pornhub will cease operating in five more states this summer due to new legislation that requires age verification on adult entertainment websites. The move is in response to a wave of recently-passed laws that require porn websites and other platforms with explicit adults-only content to collect proof of their users' ages. In all of these states, that means people would need to upload a copy of their driver's license or other government ID, or register with a third-party age verification service, in order to use sites like Pornhub.

A blog post from Pornhub said that its latest locations for shutdowns are Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky and Nebraska. The site said it would end operations in those states in July 2024. The website closed in Texas last week, and has also blocked access to its site in Arkansas, Mississippi, Montana, North Carolina, Utah, and Virginia in response to similar state legislation.

Lawmakers from these states who supported age-verification laws said the rules would keep children from viewing explicit content. For example, the Kentucky bill framed pornography as a “public health crisis” with a “corroding influence” on children.

Pornhub parent company Aylo has countered that the approach taken by these laws puts users' privacy at risk and may not actually prevent minors from seeing explicit content. After Louisiana enacted a similar law last year and Aylo remained in operation with a government-supported age verification service, Pornhub traffic in the state dropped 80 percent.

"These people did not stop looking for porn," Aylo told the Indiana Capital Chronicle. "They just migrated to darker corners of the internet that don’t ask users to verify age, that don’t follow the law, that don’t take user safety seriously, and that often don’t even moderate content." The company advocates a device-based age verification solution rather than state legislation to keep minors off of adults-only sites.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation also raised privacy concerns around these bills, noting that no age-verification method is completely foolproof. "No one should have to hand over their driver’s license just to access free websites. That’s why EFF opposes mandated age verification laws, no matter how well intentioned they may be," the organization said in a 2023 statement.
 

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Pornhub intends to ban Nebraska users after passage of LB 1092​

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Thu, June 20, 2024 at 6:45 AM EDT·4 min read

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State Sen. Dave Murman of Glenvil, left, meets with State Sen. Carol Blood of Bellevue. April 9, 2024. (Zach Wendling/Nebraska Examiner)

This story was updated Thursday afternoon to include reaction from Gov. Jim Pillen.

LINCOLN — Pornhub, one of the busiest websites for sexually explicit videos, is less than a month from going dark in Nebraska.

The company blames a new Nebraska state law requiring it to check the IDs of people using its site or hire another company to do so. Pornhub says it won’t assume that risk to its viewers.

Users of the adult video repository with Nebraska Internet protocol addresses are receiving warning messages saying they will lose access to the site on July 15.

That’s when Legislative Bill 1092, introduced by State Sen. Dave Murman of Glenvil, goes into effect. The legislation requires online porn companies to verify users’ ages.

New law required age check​

The new law, passed 35-3 in April, creates liability for knowingly or intentionally publishing or distributing material harmful to minors on the internet.




Murman and other advocates of such age-verification laws say the laws are needed to protect children from mental health risks of exposure to pornography.

First Amendment advocates and others pushing for freer expression have argued that children today carry the internet in their pockets and will find other ways to access porn.

Aylo, Pornhub’s parent company, confirmed to the Examiner on Tuesday that it plans to block access to its websites in Nebraska when the new law takes effect.



Gov. Jim Pillen, after the Examiner’s story published, issued a statement celebrating Pornhub’s decision.

“To the news that one of the world’s busiest porn traffickers will shut down in Nebraska, I say: ‘good riddance,’” he said. “This is a great development for the protection of our kids, culture, and values. Our kids already face too many threats from Big Tech and the obscene content industry.”

Nebraska would be the latest state where Aylo blocks users based on such laws. The others include Arkansas, Mississippi, Montana, North Carolina, Texas, Utah and Virginia. Idaho, Indiana, Kansas and Kentucky passed similar laws and will see users blocked over the next several weeks.

Florida’s new law goes into effect next year. Aylo hasn’t said yet whether its users will be blocked.

A company spokesman who declined to give his name said such laws require adult websites to collect information about users in ways that put personally identifying information at risk.

“Aylo has publicly supported age verification of users for years, but we believe that any law to this effect must preserve user safety and privacy,” the spokesman said.

The group’s longer statement mirrored what many of the bill’s critics argued during legislative debate: that it addressed a real issue without paying enough attention to unintended consequences.

How the law works​

LB 1092 requires companies to verify the front and back of a user’s driver’s license or state ID card and then get rid of the data or use a third party to do so.

State Sen. Carol Blood of Bellevue and other critics warned during debate that the state should not require such personal information to be shared with porn websites.

She said this week the requirement puts users at risk of being embarrassed by bad actors or fleeced financially by having their identity stolen.

Blood said Nebraska needs a data broker registry that would let consumers know who has access to their data, why and what they do with the information the companies gather.

“It’s clear that Nebraska did not talk to people who utilize this type of data,” she said. “You shouldn’t pass laws without appropriate research just because other states are doing it.”

People find access anyway​

Murman, the sponsoring senator, said Nebraska and other states have stepped up to say “No more” to the porn industry. He said pornography companies lie about privacy and safety concerns.

“The reality is that companies like Pornhub rely on the business of streaming endless hours of graphic sexual content to minors and children,” Murman said.

Aylo suggested a better, safer approach to age verification — requiring it to be checked at the device level, on a phone or computer — to avoid transmitting personal information.

The company and other critics of LB 1092 said porn users in the other states where such laws have been passed still seek out what they want.

Many simply use virtual private networks to conceal where they are viewing the material from, or they get the material from darker, more dangerous places online, the spokesman said, adding:

“We are eager to be part of this solution and … collaborate with government, civil society and tech partners to arrive at an effective device-based age verification solution.”





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I'm open to hearing solutions for verifying age that don't require checking identification.
I would think there could be something like an encrypted "ID" app that you upload a pic of your id to. The app verifies the id and issues some kind of token to the NSFW site you are visiting that shows that you are of age.

My biggest issue with all this is that dedicated porn sites are not the only source of NSFW content. Imagine needing id to access the Coli, Twitter, Reddit, or any other site with NSFW content.
 

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I would think there could be something like an encrypted "ID" app that you upload a pic of your id to. The app verifies the id and issues some kind of token to the NSFW site you are visiting that shows that you are of age.

My biggest issue with all this is that dedicated porn sites are not the only source of NSFW content. Imagine needing id to access the Coli, Twitter, Reddit, or any other site with NSFW content.

That's exactly how I'd imagine it would work but the people here are insisting that the government will keep a log of who goes to what websites when that's completely unnecessary to verify age.
 

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That's exactly how I'd imagine it would work but the people here are insisting that the government will keep a log of who goes to what websites when that's completely unnecessary to verify age.
People don't trust Christian conservative governments on this issue, and I don't blame them. Louisiana has a database of ID info for their age check system, and people are afraid of data breaches.
 

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I would think there could be something like an encrypted "ID" app that you upload a pic of your id to. The app verifies the id and issues some kind of token to the NSFW site you are visiting that shows that you are of age.

My biggest issue with all this is that dedicated porn sites are not the only source of NSFW content. Imagine needing id to access the Coli, Twitter, Reddit, or any other site with NSFW content.

the law only applies to sites that have at least 1/3 of their content being porn.
 

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People don't trust Christian conservative governments on this issue, and I don't blame them. Louisiana has a database of ID info for their age check system, and people are afraid of data breaches.

that's a function of poor implementation, there's no need for this PII to be stored on a database.
 

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Now watch all these states try outdo each other on who is the most "conservative"..



Almost two years ago, Louisiana passed a law that started a wave that’s since spread across the entire U.S. south, and has changed the way people there can access adult content. As of today, Florida, Tennessee, and South Carolina join the list of 17 states that can’t access some of the most popular porn sites on the internet, because of regressive laws that claim to protect children but restrict adults’ use of the internet, instead.

That law, passed as Act 440, was introduced by “sex addiction” counselor and state representative Laurie Schegel and quickly copied across the country. The exact phrasing varies, but in most states, the details of the law are the same: Any “commercial entity” that publishes “material harmful to minors” online can be held liable—meaning, tens of thousands of dollars in fines and/or private lawsuits—if it doesn’t “perform reasonable age verification methods to verify the age of individuals attempting to access the material.”

To remain compliant with the law while protecting users’ privacy, Aylo—the company that owns Pornhub and a network of sites including Brazzers, RedTube, YouPorn, Reality Kings, and several others—is making the choice, state by state, to block users altogether.

Pornhub is currently blocked in:
  • Virginia
  • Montana
  • North Carolina
  • Arkansas
  • Utah
  • Mississippi
  • Texas
  • Nebraska
  • Idaho
  • Kansas
  • Kentucky
  • Indiana
  • Alabama
  • Oklahoma
  • Florida
  • Tennessee
  • South Carolina

Georgia’s age verification bill has passed and is set to go into effect in July.

On a map, it looks like this:
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Georgia’s age verification bill will go into effect in July.

In Louisiana, sites in the Aylo network direct visitors to use the state’s LA Wallet, a digital driver’s license for Louisianans, before they can enter the site. That system has been in place since January 1, 2023. But the law is not working as the lawmakers would have us believe they intended it. Instead of protecting children from “harmful material,” it’s sending visitors elsewhere across the internet. An Aylo spokesperson told me that the number of visitors in Louisiana “instantly decreased by 80 percent” when the platform introduced age verification in the state. Instead, visitors go to sites with worse moderation practices and no requirements on identity verification for uploaders—just a few of the security and safety practices Pornhub started putting into place in late 2020 amid allegations of abusive imagery on the site and a campaign by religious conservative groups to have the whole platform shut down.

Even if someone wanted to visit Pornhub from Florida today, they could easily get around any age verification barriers with a VPN, which we consistently see searches for spike when these laws go into effect.

Age Verification Laws Drag Us Back to the Dark Ages of the Internet
Invasive and ineffective age verification laws that require users show government-issued ID, like a driver’s license or passport, are passing like wildfire across the U.S.
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Aylo sent 404 Media a statement about the age verification laws’ progress across the country:
"First, to be clear, Aylo has publicly supported age verification of users for years, but we believe that any law to this effect must preserve user safety and privacy, and must effectively protect children from accessing content intended for adults.

Unfortunately, the way many jurisdictions worldwide, including Florida, have chosen to implement age verification is ineffective, haphazard, and dangerous. Any regulations that require hundreds of thousands of adult sites to collect significant amounts of highly sensitive personal information is putting user safety in jeopardy. Moreover, as experience has demonstrated, unless properly enforced, users will simply access non-compliant sites or find other methods of evading these laws."


In place of the homepage, in several blocked states, Aylo-network sites show a message read by adult performer and activist Cherie Deville: "The safety of our users is one of our biggest concerns. We believe that the best and most effective solution for protecting children and adults alike is to identify users by their device and allow access to age-restricted materials and websites based on that identification," DeVille says. "Until a real solution is offered, we have made the difficult decision to completely disable access to our website in your state."

2025 will be a year of intensifying legal battles against the creep of age verification laws. As such, there is some hope: Not every state where bills were introduced rolled over and allowed their constituents to face more censorship with less safety. In Arizona, governor Katie Hobbs vetoed the copycat bill there. “Children's online safety is a pressing issue for parents and the state,” Hobbs wrote in a letter announcing her decision. “While we look for a solution, it should be bipartisan and work within the bounds of the First Amendment, which this bill does not.”

The Free Speech Coalition filed a challenge to the law in Florida earlier this month, along with several co-plaintiffs, including the sex education platform O.school, sexual wellness retailer Adam & Eve, adult fan platform JustFor.Fans, and Florida attorney Barry Chase. “These laws create a substantial burden on adults who want to access legal sites without fear of surveillance,” Alison Boden, Executive Director of the Free Speech Coalition, said in a press release published in December. “Despite the claims of the proponents, HB3 is not the same as showing an ID at a liquor store. It is invasive and carries significant risk to privacy. This law and others like it have effectively become state censorship, creating a massive chilling effect for those who speak about, or engage with, issues of sex or sexuality.”

And in Texas, Free Speech Coalition v. Paxton continues and will be heard this month.

Age verification bills like the ones flooding the south and beyond are regressive at best, and actively harmful at worst. They’re not just ineffective, they’re worse: they push people to sites where piracy is rampant and moderation—meaning, protection from actual harmful material—is almost nonexistent. We’ll be following these laws and their challengers into 2025 as we have been for years; if you have anything to share from inside of lawmakers’ offices about how they’re approaching these laws, please get in touch via Signal: sam.404.
 
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