Bill Laimbeer says "LeBron is the GOAT" (First Take)

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Mike didn't score 8 points in a finals game though :dahell:

Wade outplayed LeBron that series which shouldn't have been the case

I know one series doesn't define your career but when you have a 3-9 finals record, you can't claim GOAT status. Especially compared to a player that has gone 6-6 in finals and has better playoff stats as well
You’re arguing the semantics of a bad game. All great players have had bad games.

Of his finals losses outside of 2011, when should have his teams won? You make it seem like it’s better to not make the playoffs or lose in the first round.
 

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LeBron is the goat to me. He would have won way more chips had the warriors not form an unbeatable teams with KD :manny:.


DUDE PLAYED HIS ENTIRE PRIME ON HAND PICKED SUPERTEAMS AND YOURE THROWIN OUT WHAT IF SCENERIOS? LMAO

WHAT IF HE PLAYED HALF HIS PRIME ON SCRUB TEAMS AND THE OTHER HALF ON TEAMS WHERE PAU GASOL WAS HIS SECOND OPTION......

THAT PART
 

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You’re arguing the semantics of a bad game. All great players have had bad games.

Of his finals losses outside of 2011, when should have his teams won? You make it seem like it’s better to not make the playoffs or lose in the first round.

That's another "only for LeBron" thing that persists on here. Only for him is making The Finals a negative, losing to superior teams is only a negative for him, shoulda lost in the 1st Rd...

The only Finals LeBron ever played in where his team was favored was 2011 and 2013. But he's the only GOAT tier player expected to be able to have a winning record versus dynasties....
 

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Lies. Stop the unnecessary :cape:

Bringing up the Lakers and KG has no relations to this topic, you’re just trying to solidify your weak stance with unneeded bs. They explained why they walked off the way they did, it’s a whole 30 for 30 episode explaining why. And John Salley explained too, had nothing to do with being salty. They just did what Boston did to them in 88.




So cause Boston did it you think it makes it any less bytchmade? That was a real lame attempt at justifying their hoeish movements...Salley always trying to subtly takes shots a Mike anyway...seen him hint that the marketing is why he’s seen as the greatest :stopitslime:
 

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DUDE PLAYED HIS ENTIRE PRIME ON HAND PICKED SUPERTEAMS AND YOURE THROWIN OUT WHAT IF SCENERIOS? LMAO

WHAT IF HE PLAYED HALF HIS PRIME ON SCRUB TEAMS AND THE OTHER HALF ON TEAMS WHERE PAU GASOL WAS HIS SECOND OPTION......

THAT PART

LeBron made his first All-Star Game and All-NBA appearance in 2005; he played his first 7 years in Cleveland which to date is still over 40% of his career, without a teammate even close to the caliber of Gasol; I think it's safe to say he wasn't playing his entire prime on superteams...

This brought up something I've never really seen anybody define here, what exactly do you consider to be Bron's prime?

They despise kd and curry too for closing that window

You guys use these vague "they" determinations, but what Bron fan on here has said they don't like Steph or KD?
 

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LeBron made his first All-Star Game and All-NBA appearance in 2005; he played his first 7 years in Cleveland which to date is still over 40% of his career, without a teammate even close to the caliber of Gasol; I think it's safe to say he wasn't playing his entire prime on superteams...

This brought up something I've never really seen anybody define here, what exactly do you consider to be Bron's prime?



You guys use these vague "they" determinations, but what Bron fan on here has said they don't like Steph or KD?


NO ITS NOT SAFE, LEBRON GOT TO MIAMI AT AGE 26, AND HIS PRIME REALISTICALLY STARTED AT AGE 27, HIS SECOND SEASON THERE.....

HIS TEAMS IN CLEVELAND WERE WELL ROUNDED DEFENSIVE JUGGERNAUTS THO.
 

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Laimbeer beat MJ...

He beat him multiple times.. What is the grudge? Those series with the Pistons Bulls were brutal and sometimes that shyt doesn’t go away but he beat him..

They beat MJ a lot..
The battles were intense and dirty. No matter who won, there's no love lost between any of the players on those teams.

Combine that with MJ being the best player at the time, getting all the praise and all the attention during those series PLUS the fact the Bulls finally did beat them and that DET core never sniffed an NBA Finals appearance again, it's not absurd to think some of the Pistons harbor resentment.
 

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You’re arguing the semantics of a bad game. All great players have had bad games.

Of his finals losses outside of 2011, when should have his teams won? You make it seem like it’s better to not make the playoffs or lose in the first round.

I'm talking about the finals though. Where it matters the most. LeBron got outplayed by Wade the whole series. Not just 8 point game 4 from LeBron where they lost

When you're self proclaimed to be the best player in the world all those years then your team should win every year. Mike did it :mjgrin:

All those years LeBron was in Miami he was definitely supposed to win chips all 4 years he was there. Did you forget?

lebron.gif
 

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I'm talking about the finals though. Where it matters the most. LeBron got outplayed by Wade the whole series. Not just 8 point game 4 from LeBron where they lost

When you're self proclaimed to be the best player in the world all those years then your team should win every year. Mike did it :mjgrin:

All those years LeBron was in Miami he was definitely supposed to win chips all 4 years he was there. Did you forget?

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You still talking about 2011. And I gave you that.

What about when he led the takedown of a 73 win team? Or does that no matter.
 

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Lol@ “Laimbeer bear mj multiple times” is like saying zaza pachulia beat james harden multiple times

act like that goofy cracker was some superstar headliner That was going head to head with the goat. He was some fakkit ass cac riding IT and the boys coattails

“Big baby davis beat lebron in the mid 2000s and ran him off to Miami”

don’t be stupid
Yeah you’re a fukkin analog ass nikka.

Shut the fukk up
 
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