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We are discussing the allegations against him…..of course it is a hypothetical or theoretical discussion…my contention is that he is more guilty then isn't, based on the information I have seen thus far. The position you are taking doesn't really make critical thinking, intellectual curiosity, or debate possible…it's like some redneck shyt.



what information have you seen other than money hungry women, that admit they were PAID for sex in the past, coming out the woodworks after 30 or 40 years crying rape?

and tell me something else: How many of the people on this site have heard of a woman coming forth 40 years later to allege rape?

everyone keeps repeating this same old "a lot of rape victims don't report rape" and that's probably true

but if they didn't report it when it happened, who waits 30 or 40 years?

usually if they're not gonna report it, they just never report it

but they don't come out the woodworks 40 yrs later to report it

I mean, that's a real question: I would like some examples of this before Bill Cosby

post the links

when has this ever happened before?
 

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We are discussing the allegations against him…..of course it is a hypothetical or theoretical discussion…my contention is that he is more guilty then isn't, based on the information I have seen thus far. The position you are taking doesn't really make critical thinking, intellectual curiosity, or debate possible…it's like some redneck shyt.

I'm curious what factual information you have heard thus far? There are no facts or evidence being reported.
 

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They coming out the woodworks...:wow: ......full court press on Cos :patrice: ......why now?? . guy saved copies of money orders he claims for former chicks Bill was allegedly giving chocolate pudding too... ....


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EXCLUSIVE: Ex-NBC employee Frank Scotti claims Bill Cosby paid off women, invited young models to dressing room as he stood guard

Veteran NBC employee Frank Scotti says he helped Bill Cosby deliver thousands of dollars to eight different women in 1989-90 - including Shawn Thompson, whose daughter Autumn Jackson claimed the actor was her dad. The ex-aide also tells the Daily News he stood guard whenever Cosby invited young models to his dressing room, which eventually led him to quitting after years on the job.


BY CHELSIA ROSE MARCIUS , BRIAN NIEMIETZ , LARRY MCSHANE
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Sunday, November 23, 2014, 3:00 AM

Back when Bill Cosby was the king of network television, veteran NBC employee Frank Scotti served as the royal fixer.

When Cosby invited young models into his Brooklyn dressing room, the megastar’s pal stood watch outside the door. When the married Cosby sought a Queens apartment for another pretty face, Scotti arranged the deal.

And when the man behind Fat Albert needed cash disbursed to his flock of single female friends — hey, hey, hey — Scotti became the conduit for payments of up to $2,000 a month.

“He had everybody fooled,” said Scotti in an exclusive interview with the Daily News. “Nobody suspected.”

Scotti came forward last week with his insider’s look at Cosby’s womanizing ways during the magical 1984-92 run of “The Cosby Show.

The 90-year-old Scotti said he decided to speak as the drumbeat of sexual abuse allegations against Cosby, 77, grew steadily louder. “I felt sorry for the women,” he told The News.

The Emmy-winning Cosby, NBC’s most bankable star at the time, used Scotti to deliver monthly payouts to eight different women in 1989-90 — including Shawn Thompson, whose daughter Autumn Jackson claimed the actor was her dad.

Cosby, while denying paternity, paid out more than $100,000 to Thompson over the years after their 1974 affair began. Scotti told The News that he believes Cosby was sleeping with all the women who received money.

“I was suspicious that something was going on,” said Scotti. “I suspected that he was having sex with them because the other person he was sending money to (Thompson) he was definitely having sex with.

“Why else would he be sending money?” Scotti asked. “He was sending these women $2,000 a month. What else could I think?”

Scotti, who lives in Lakewood, N.J., saved copies of money orders from the era detailing his payouts to four of the Cosby women.

He recalled Cosby presenting him with “a satchel of money, all $100 bills,” and pressing Scotti to distribute the payments using money orders in his own name.

“I did a lot of crazy things for him,” recalled Scotti. “He was covering himself by having my name on it. It was a coverup. I realized it later.”

Scotti worked as facilities manager at the Brooklyn studio where “The Cosby Show” was originally taped before a live audience.

Thompson, contacted last week by email, refused to comment on the ongoing Cosby sex scandal and stopped writing once Scotti’s name was mentioned.

A second woman said “Dr. Cosby” sent her money to help cover expenses for her son to attend private school. The receipts showed her receiving four money orders in one day worth $3,500.

Angela Leslie, now 52, was the last name on the receipts — and she told The News the Cosby camp paid for her to fly to California in the early 1990s. She got sick and returned her ticket but saw him two years later in Las Vegas.

Once there, Leslie claimed Cosby got naked before getting sexual — despite her lack of interest. When she backed off, Cosby chased her out of the room.

“I felt so used,” she told The News.

Scotti said Cosby also had an arrangement with a Manhattan modeling agency in which the owner would deliver young women to his dressing room. Some of the aspiring models were as young as 16, Scotti said.

“‘I want you to keep that one girl here,’ ” Scotti quoted Cosby as telling him. “ ‘I want to interview her for a part in the show.’”

The other models and the agency’s owner would quickly disappear, leaving Cosby’s pick alone with the comedian.

“The owner just walked right out,” he recounted. “She knew exactly what was going to go on. Then he’d tell me, ‘Stand outside the door and don’t let anyone in.’ Now you put that together and figure (out) why.”

On another occasion, Cosby asked him to find a Queens apartment for another model from the same agency.

“He said, ‘Call Donald Trump’s brother and see if he can give you an apartment,’ ” Scotti recalled. “So I called him up, and of course, who’s not going to? He’d throw somebody out just to give Bill Cosby an apartment.”

Scotti said the sordid arrangements gnawed at him, and eventually led him to walk away from Cosby.

“It bothered me. . . . You’ve got all of these kids, every time,” he told The News. “I used to like him, but that’s the reason I quit him after so many years — because of the girls.”

The walls of Scotti’s apartment are covered with photos of the former facilities manager from his days at NBC — many with Cosby, including one signed 16-inch-by-20-inch framed portrait.

“To Frank Scotty, my friend,” reads the misspelled inscription.

Cosby lawyer Martin Singer scoffed at Scotti’s claims.

“What evidence does he have of Mr. Cosby’s involvement?” Singer said Saturday. “How would Scotti know if a woman was a model or a secretary? It appears that his story is pure speculation so that he can get his 15 minutes of fame.”

Scotti says he met Cosby when the comedian was doing standup at the Gaslight Cafe in Greenwich Village. When Cosby went to California for the series “I Spy,” Scotti landed a job at NBC.

The two were reunited when Cosby began shooting “The Cosby Show” in Brooklyn in 1984.

Scotti told Cosby that he was considering retirement — and was surprised by the star’s response.

“He said, ‘You’ll never quit me. You love me,’ ” Scotti recounted.

The Cos then gave him a less sentimental sendoff when he announced his departure.
 

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how do you parse the truth among lies.

Which one of these accusations have some shred truth and are not lies?
 
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They coming out the woodworks...:wow: ......full court press on Cos :patrice: ......why now?? . guy saved copies of money orders he claims for former chicks Bill was allegedly giving chocolate pudding too... ....


scotti23n-1-web.jpg


bill-cosby-sexual-assaults.jpg


scotti23n-6-web.jpg



http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...-paid-women-ex-nbc-employee-article-1.2020464 [Video in Link]

EXCLUSIVE: Ex-NBC employee Frank Scotti claims Bill Cosby paid off women, invited young models to dressing room as he stood guard

Veteran NBC employee Frank Scotti says he helped Bill Cosby deliver thousands of dollars to eight different women in 1989-90 - including Shawn Thompson, whose daughter Autumn Jackson claimed the actor was her dad. The ex-aide also tells the Daily News he stood guard whenever Cosby invited young models to his dressing room, which eventually led him to quitting after years on the job.


BY CHELSIA ROSE MARCIUS , BRIAN NIEMIETZ , LARRY MCSHANE
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Sunday, November 23, 2014, 3:00 AM

Back when Bill Cosby was the king of network television, veteran NBC employee Frank Scotti served as the royal fixer.

When Cosby invited young models into his Brooklyn dressing room, the megastar’s pal stood watch outside the door. When the married Cosby sought a Queens apartment for another pretty face, Scotti arranged the deal.

And when the man behind Fat Albert needed cash disbursed to his flock of single female friends — hey, hey, hey — Scotti became the conduit for payments of up to $2,000 a month.

“He had everybody fooled,” said Scotti in an exclusive interview with the Daily News. “Nobody suspected.”

Scotti came forward last week with his insider’s look at Cosby’s womanizing ways during the magical 1984-92 run of “The Cosby Show.

The 90-year-old Scotti said he decided to speak as the drumbeat of sexual abuse allegations against Cosby, 77, grew steadily louder. “I felt sorry for the women,” he told The News.

The Emmy-winning Cosby, NBC’s most bankable star at the time, used Scotti to deliver monthly payouts to eight different women in 1989-90 — including Shawn Thompson, whose daughter Autumn Jackson claimed the actor was her dad.

Cosby, while denying paternity, paid out more than $100,000 to Thompson over the years after their 1974 affair began. Scotti told The News that he believes Cosby was sleeping with all the women who received money.

“I was suspicious that something was going on,” said Scotti. “I suspected that he was having sex with them because the other person he was sending money to (Thompson) he was definitely having sex with.

“Why else would he be sending money?” Scotti asked. “He was sending these women $2,000 a month. What else could I think?”

Scotti, who lives in Lakewood, N.J., saved copies of money orders from the era detailing his payouts to four of the Cosby women.

He recalled Cosby presenting him with “a satchel of money, all $100 bills,” and pressing Scotti to distribute the payments using money orders in his own name.

“I did a lot of crazy things for him,” recalled Scotti. “He was covering himself by having my name on it. It was a coverup. I realized it later.”

Scotti worked as facilities manager at the Brooklyn studio where “The Cosby Show” was originally taped before a live audience.

Thompson, contacted last week by email, refused to comment on the ongoing Cosby sex scandal and stopped writing once Scotti’s name was mentioned.

A second woman said “Dr. Cosby” sent her money to help cover expenses for her son to attend private school. The receipts showed her receiving four money orders in one day worth $3,500.

Angela Leslie, now 52, was the last name on the receipts — and she told The News the Cosby camp paid for her to fly to California in the early 1990s. She got sick and returned her ticket but saw him two years later in Las Vegas.

Once there, Leslie claimed Cosby got naked before getting sexual — despite her lack of interest. When she backed off, Cosby chased her out of the room.

“I felt so used,” she told The News.

Scotti said Cosby also had an arrangement with a Manhattan modeling agency in which the owner would deliver young women to his dressing room. Some of the aspiring models were as young as 16, Scotti said.

“‘I want you to keep that one girl here,’ ” Scotti quoted Cosby as telling him. “ ‘I want to interview her for a part in the show.’”

The other models and the agency’s owner would quickly disappear, leaving Cosby’s pick alone with the comedian.

“The owner just walked right out,” he recounted. “She knew exactly what was going to go on. Then he’d tell me, ‘Stand outside the door and don’t let anyone in.’ Now you put that together and figure (out) why.”

On another occasion, Cosby asked him to find a Queens apartment for another model from the same agency.

“He said, ‘Call Donald Trump’s brother and see if he can give you an apartment,’ ” Scotti recalled. “So I called him up, and of course, who’s not going to? He’d throw somebody out just to give Bill Cosby an apartment.”

Scotti said the sordid arrangements gnawed at him, and eventually led him to walk away from Cosby.

“It bothered me. . . . You’ve got all of these kids, every time,” he told The News. “I used to like him, but that’s the reason I quit him after so many years — because of the girls.”

The walls of Scotti’s apartment are covered with photos of the former facilities manager from his days at NBC — many with Cosby, including one signed 16-inch-by-20-inch framed portrait.

“To Frank Scotty, my friend,” reads the misspelled inscription.

Cosby lawyer Martin Singer scoffed at Scotti’s claims.

“What evidence does he have of Mr. Cosby’s involvement?” Singer said Saturday. “How would Scotti know if a woman was a model or a secretary? It appears that his story is pure speculation so that he can get his 15 minutes of fame.”

Scotti says he met Cosby when the comedian was doing standup at the Gaslight Cafe in Greenwich Village. When Cosby went to California for the series “I Spy,” Scotti landed a job at NBC.

The two were reunited when Cosby began shooting “The Cosby Show” in Brooklyn in 1984.

Scotti told Cosby that he was considering retirement — and was surprised by the star’s response.

“He said, ‘You’ll never quit me. You love me,’ ” Scotti recounted.

The Cos then gave him a less sentimental sendoff when he announced his departure.





Proof that these women were not raped. They were prostitutes aka harlots, whores, fallen women, call girls, hookers, sluts, floozies.
 

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I'm curious what factual information you have heard thus far? There are no facts or evidence being reported.

The facts are that numerous women, now men, some with checkered histories or shaky backgrounds, including criminals are accusing Bill Cosby of repulsive acts of sexual assault, and sexual abuse…at the very minimum conduct unbecoming of a man with such staunch self righteous views….those are FACTS, whether the stories are true or not….I don't fukking know. But, I think the similarities, the timelines and the sheer volume, speak to his guilt or culpability in the matter.
 
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The facts are that numerous women, now men, some with checkered histories or shaky backgrounds, including criminals are accusing Bill Cosby of repulsive acts of sexual assault, and sexual abuse…at the very minimum conduct unbecoming of a man with such staunch self righteous views….those are FACTS, whether the stories are true or not….I don't fukking know. But, I think the similarities, the timelines and the sheer volume, speak to his guilt or culpability in the matter.




I'm still waiting on you to provide some examples of women waiting 30 and 40 years after a rape, and then all deciding to come forward.

I'm saying this is being done because it's a conspiracy to discredit Bill Cosby and to destroy his image before the masses for reasons that have yet to be disclosed.

You think that's far fetched, so you explain the rationale.

Give me examples of this happening before.

When have multiple women that have been raped, wait 30 and 40 years to report said rape?

When do multiple women that have been raped stay in a relationship with said rapist for years?

When do multiple women that have been raped keep photos of their rapist from the night he raped them for over 30 years?

When has this ever happened?

when do black men get away with raping white women without serving any jail time?

Can you even show me one instance when that has happened?
 

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I am not a conspiracy theorist, though there have been some that were real….so, all these people, the accusers, their handlers, the money men, and the evil genius at the top are behind this? And, we are trusting 15 relative strangers to participate in a vast, far reaching conspiracy to discredit Bill Cosby? That should sound laughable at this point…Do you know why conspiracy theorists by and large believe in conspiracies? Because it is simply easier, and ironically enough, some feel more secure believing in them, because they explain away our worst fears, perceptions, and give us some degree of control….so, in this case, it's easier to believe that Cosby is at the forefront t of a massive, wide ranging, complex labyrinth of a conspiracy, which certainly seems like a fukking house of cards, given the alleged participants, then it is to believe that a man who is an iconic figure, a family man, philanthropist committed rape, or serious sexual assault?

A quick search or skimming of books on rape and sexual assault, that it is extremely common for rape to never be reported or for people to wait decades to admit they were raped, it just doesn't always play out in the public eye. There are hundreds if not 1000s who have been sexually molested, abused, raped, whatever and are only NOW telling a therapist, or husband, whatever about it.
 
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I am not a conspiracy theorist, though there have been some that were real….so, all these people, the accusers, their handlers, the money men, and the evil genius at the top are behind this? And, we are trusting 15 relative strangers to participate in a vast, far reaching conspiracy to discredit Bill Cosby? That should sound laughable at this point…Do you know why conspiracy theorists by and large believe in conspiracies? Because it is simply easier, and ironically enough, some feel more secure believing in them, because they explain away our worst fears, perceptions, and give us some degree of control….so, in this case, it's easier to believe that Cosby is at the forefront t of a massive, wide ranging, complex labyrinth of a conspiracy, which certainly seems like a fukking house of cards, given the alleged participants, then it is to believe that a man who is an iconic figure, a family man, philanthropist committed rape, or serious sexual assault?

A quick search or skimming of books on rape and sexual assault, that it is extremely common for rape to never be reported or for people to wait decades to admit they were raped, it just doesn't always play out in the public eye. There are hundreds if not 1000s who have been sexually molested, abused, raped, whatever and are only NOW telling a therapist, or husband, whatever about it.





Since you are a cac, it's easy for you to sit back with your white privilege and denounce me and the rest of the young black men on this site as being "paranoid" and "tinfoil hat wearers";

But when you and your people are systematically held in chattel slavery for centuries where their families are ripped apart, babies are cut out of their women's stomachs, men are castrated and lynched and to this day, we can be the president of the United States and people will still go out of their way to show that even if we're the President, we still ain't nothing but another nicca:

When you and your people are conspired against for over 400 years, then you come back to me and tell me how you don't believe in conspiracies.

But until then, you can step off.

You say these women are "15 relative strangers".

Says who?

How do you know if they're strangers or not?

You say it's easier for you to believe that Cosby has been out here serial raping for 50 years than it is for you to believe that there is a wide ranging conspiracy to destroy his image.

Well I'll bet it is easier for you to believe that.

After all, to most cacs, all black men are guilty until proven innocent.

So you aren't surprising me by telling me that you feel the same way.
 

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It seems like you want to bait me, and red herring and straw man your way through this….so I'm done until you have some real points, because that is a disaster of an argument. You through it all up there with that, emotional appeal, personal attack, slippery slope...
 
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It seems like you want to bait me, and red herring and straw man your way through this….so I'm done until you have some real points, because that is a disaster of an argument. You through it all up there with that, emotional appeal, personal attack, slippery slope...






Be a part of an oppressing people that put another people in slavery for 400 years, raped their men and women, robbed them of their knowledge of themselves, worked them from dusk to dawn, beat them, castrated them, hung them, murdered them, tore families apart and treated their animals better than they treated them, and then when it's brought up in conversation by a descendent of your slaves, accuse the person who mentioned it of being "emotional" and trying to "bait" you, brehs.
 

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the demonic thing about all of this is that there is no case to be opened here...these women don't have any charges to press since they waited so long. They get to sully this man's reputation and walk away.
 
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