Walter Crunkite
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So in the 60's and 70's if a white woman claimed they were raped by a black man the women thought the police would believe the black man's story over her's?
Bill Cosby is done
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Nigerianwonder
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if Cosby really was a serial rapist why would he just stop 30 years ago? serial rapist cant control themselves. There would be recent victims if that were true.
We got to get to a place where we can look at these cases objectively. Not outright believe or dismiss these accusations. And actually entertain the idea that these accusations may hold some weight.
I don't want to get to a point where I reject the reality that humans I hold in high esteem are incapable doing abhorrent things.
I don't want to get to a point where I reject the reality that humans I hold in high esteem are incapable doing abhorrent things.
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Nigerianwonder
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when you look at the cases objectively they all fall apart. First they are not all rape claims.. some are silly shyt like the one who said he tried to kiss her aggressively or the lady who said he ran his hands across he body during a rehearsal. Also several of these women had long term relationships with cosby AFTER they claimed he raped them, even admitting to consensual sex with him after the fact. Many are former drug atticts and hollywood groupies. I know one is a career criminal and liar with multiple fraud and theft convictions. And also interesting to note is cosby supposedly never forced any of them to take drugs. They claim he gave them a pill and they voluntarily took it without asking what it was.. who does that.
After seeing the story breaking for last few weeks or so, I finally spent a day or so going over articles, and forming what I hope is an objective opinion, and I will say that the accusations have an eerily similarity….I will admit I hardly know anything about Cosby, other then the memes, 'Dynasty Intro', emoji's and the pound cake speech, I never watched any of his shows really, or follow him in the media…..but I think that the accusations have more weight then not…maybe Cosby isn't a classic sexual predator, he just acted maliciously and recklessly during very different times, which doesn't justify his actions….but the constants in the stories are hard for me to overlook. It's fascinating regardless though.
Nigerianwonder
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They had 30 years to get their stories straight. of course they are similar.
Theres alternative explanations for the stories, other then being the truth, or close enough…...but that theory holds no weight to me….A conspiracy can be very hard to keep, imagine the most grandiose conspiracy, and then imagine holding it all together, and no one talking….You can't even get 20 people in a drug conspiracy case to hold up, how does dozens and dozens, esp. with the financial incentives to talk becomes so great... And what could be the possible motive? To destroy Bill Cosby? To undermine his legacy, for what purpose? I am not 100% convinced of his guilt, but thats where I am with it, at this point.
fukk these Cacs I'm riding with Cosby
Nigerianwonder
Superstar
Its the deceptive and intentional misleading media reporting of the story.. Only 2 or 3 women are claiming actual rape. And those ones are the least credible (criminals/ drug addicts / groupies etc..) the rest are claiming "sexual assualts" or harrasment. Anybody bill cosby ever flirted with can say he sexually assualted them.
You answered your own question. This is all about $$$. Same reason why those ppl threw those false allegations at MJ.
well if it involves pills and sexual touching or behavior, without verbal consent, it counts. Maybe he didn't 'forcibly penetrate them with himself or an object', is not the standard I am holding it too…..if he gave a bytch pills, and she woke up and he was masterbating, or attempting to touch them….thats flag on the play…he's guilty, and maybe not in a court of law, but not someone I'd trust with my loved ones, which doesn't negate any good he has done for anyone….or erase the double standard or countless examples of iconic people who are perhaps not worthy of our respect or idolization, but it does make him a creep and fukking wierdo.
^ above me: but, what is your theory then? You are making all arguments without making one….all these ladies are involved in a conspiracy together or separately to enrich themselves by making up allegations of abuse and sexual assault? Did they cross check each other stories? Or these are just independent, unsanctioned or planned acts?
^ above me: but, what is your theory then? You are making all arguments without making one….all these ladies are involved in a conspiracy together or separately to enrich themselves by making up allegations of abuse and sexual assault? Did they cross check each other stories? Or these are just independent, unsanctioned or planned acts?
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keyword there, pleighboi, is "IF".
You have no proof that he did any of this, so why do you keep repeating it as if it's true?
that's like me sitting here, somebody that don't know you, and saying, maybe you're a punk out on the streets selling dope.
But I have no proof of that... so why would I say it?
We are discussing the allegations against him…..of course it is a hypothetical or theoretical discussion…my contention is that he is more guilty then isn't, based on the information I have seen thus far. The position you are taking doesn't really make critical thinking, intellectual curiosity, or debate possible…it's like some redneck shyt.
Quit trying to find a glitch in the matrix breh. I can't explain it any further. They're all women who fukked around with him in the past, and are trying to use this situation as an opportunity to somehow cash in. You know the term "coming out of the woodwork"?