Biggie rapping at 15 on Video Music Box. DOPE!

[Plankton]

Because Big wasn’t as good as

Jay, yes.

Nas, no.

Big was not better than NAS lol

You obviously weren't around in real time in 1994 when Nas was the hype in early 94 NYC and Big just came out of nowhere around the summer and took the crown. Just took the crown. Nas was still that guy but Biggie was the phenomenon. Even by late 94 when Red and Meth dropped Biggie was the stand out. That's why Source magazine (when it was still respectable) said Biggie was king of NYC a year after his debut. They didn't give that to Nas.

 

[spliz]

You obviously weren't around in real time in 1994 when Nas was the hype in early 94 NYC and Big just came out of nowhere around the summer and took the crown. Just took the crown. Nas was still that guy but Biggie was the phenomenon. Even by late 94 when Red and Meth dropped Biggie was the stand out. That's why Source magazine (when it was still respectable) said Biggie was king of NYC a year after his debut. They didn't give that to Nas.

Biggie didn't come out of nowhere he already had shyt out. Biggie had the industry behind him with Puff and that was that. It was the reason he got snubbed at the Source awards and EVERYONE felt that way including Biggie. Plus. Nas sold more first week with Illmatic than Biggie sold with RTD. There's mad history behind what happened between them 2 and urs is a romanticized fantasy version.

 

[Bondye Vodou]

You obviously weren't around in real time in 1994 when Nas was the hype in early 94 NYC and Big just came out of nowhere around the summer and took the crown. Just took the crown. Nas was still that guy but Biggie was the phenomenon. Even by late 94 when Red and Meth dropped Biggie was the stand out. That's why Source magazine (when it was still respectable) said Biggie was king of NYC a year after his debut. They didn't give that to Nas.

Facts breh, nikkas love rewriting history tho.

 

[spliz]

Facts breh, nikkas love rewriting history tho.

Noone is rewriting history. Biggie became that nikka but it's not like he was making it. At all. And people were preparing Nas to go on stage especially for lyricist of the year and when Biggie won everyone was confused including him.

 

[Bondye Vodou]

Noone is rewriting history. Biggie became that nikka but it's not like he was making it. At all. And people were preparing Nas to go on stage especially for lyricist of the year and when Biggie won everyone was confused including him.

Even ya nikka Nas had to incorporate Biggie’s style into it was written, Nas’ highest selling effort to date.

Keep fooling ya self breh.

 

[spliz]

Even ya nikka Nas had to incorporate Biggie’s style into it was written, Nas’ highest selling effort to date.

Keep fooling ya self breh.

If Nas incorporated Biggie's style. Biggie incorporated Pac's style.

 

[Bondye Vodou]

If Nas incorporated Biggie's style. Biggie incorporated Pac's style.

I thought it was Notorious B1’s style?

 

[EastsideRio]

You obviously weren't around in real time in 1994 when Nas was the hype in early 94 NYC and Big just came out of nowhere around the summer and took the crown. Just took the crown. Nas was still that guy but Biggie was the phenomenon. Even by late 94 when Red and Meth dropped Biggie was the stand out. That's why Source magazine (when it was still respectable) said Biggie was king of NYC a year after his debut. They didn't give that to Nas.

No, YOU clearly weren’t around. Biggie had Puffy who single handedly commercialized hip hop. Nas didn’t go that route until Hate Me Now and Big had died long before then.


Nas ALWAYS was the better emcee. He rapped circles around Big.

 

[Bondye Vodou]

How The Notorious B.I.G. influenced Nas' 'It Was Written' album

How The Notorious B.I.G. influenced Nas' 'It Was Written' album​

Nas and Biggie came up on the New York hip hop scene around the same time.
BY CHRIS MALONE MÉNDEZ / 3.2.2023
In the mid-1990s, Nas and The Notorious B.I.G. were two New York-bred rappers ready to break onto the scene with their raw talent and unique approaches to rhyming. They both released their debut albums in 1994, with Nas’ Illmatic arriving in April and Biggie’s Ready to Die hitting store shelves in September. As Nas was preparing his 1996 sophomore LP, It Was Written, he took a page out of Big Poppa’s playbook.

The “One Mic, One Gun” MC reflected on the impact his Brooklyn colleague had on his music in a GQ interview published today (March 2). It Was Written sonically deviated from his bombastic first project, which was a creative move he made after seeing Big’s massive success with popular hits including “Juicy” and “Big Poppa.”

“These dudes didn’t want me to sell records,” the Queensbridge icon stated. “They wanted me to stay on an underground level, and I understand what they mean a little bit. But at the same time, Biggie made it different, where you can’t just be the hot dude that they liked from New York to Connecticut to Virginia. You got to hit the mainstream. You got to touch the world.”

It Was Written was largely produced by The Trackmasters, the duo behind smashes from the likes of JAY-Z, LL Cool J, and Mary J. Blige. Rather than tone down his lyrics to meld with the production, Nas worked to create tunes that would match his energy.

“I saw the same producers that I had worked with were now giving everybody else beats and then throwing me the same beats. That just wouldn’t do it for me,” he said of the direction his songs were taking at the time. “So I decided to make my rap style a little bit harder for them to follow. They’re not going to follow me on a song like ‘The Message.’ They’re not going to follow me on ‘I Gave You Power.’ They’re definitely not going to follow me on ‘If I Ruled the World.’ I got Lauryn Hill on it. They [didn’t] even fully get the Fugees at the time.”

When asked how his King’s Disease trilogy stacks up to his earlier albums like Illmatic, It Was Written, Stillmatic, and God’s Son, Nas confessed that only time will tell. “I don’t really know,” he admitted. “I’m working to just see what comes out so that 10 years from now, I can look back and have that answer.”



Tell dem stanleys Nas.

 

[papa pimp]

corny

piggie better be glad puffy sampled those hits, pac gave him a style to run with, and nas changed how nikkas flowed with illmatic

 

[spliz]

I thought it was Notorious B1’s style?

I ain't said shyt about Notorious B1. Lol. Somebody else posted that. I'm the one who made this thread bro I made it to big up Biggie and everybody started mentioning other nikkas. Lol

 

[Bondye Vodou]

corny

piggie better be glad puffy sampled those hits, pac gave him a style to run with, and nas changed how nikkas flowed with illmatic

Ballerina P? Y was he begging Biggie’s producer for beats before Biggie’s album even dropped?

 

[Plankton]

Biggie didn't come out of nowhere he already had shyt out. Biggie had the industry behind him with Puff and that was that. It was the reason he got snubbed at the Source awards and EVERYONE felt that way including Biggie. Plus. Nas sold more first week with Illmatic than Biggie sold with RTD. There's mad history behind what happened between them 2 and urs is a romanticized fantasy version.

No.

You're talking about something totally different. I'm talking about what happened in real time. Biggie did not have the hype of being the next one like Nas did. We had Jeru and Buckshot and a bunch of new rappers. No one saw Biggie becoming the king the way he did. That's what I meant by "came out of nowhere and took the crown" The way he took the crown was unexpected. No one saw that coming. That's not a romanticized fantasy version. That's exactly the way it happened in real time. And only someone who wasn't there (like you obviously) would say different.

 

[Plankton]

No, YOU clearly weren’t around. Biggie had Puffy who single handedly commercialized hip hop. Nas didn’t go that route until Hate Me Now and Big had died long before then.


Nas ALWAYS was the better emcee. He rapped circles around Big.

I was living in NYC and was in High School when both Illmatic and Ready To Die dropped. The fact that you just said I "clearly wasn't around" when I gave you the exact timeline and just told you what happened in real time in NYC and then you disagree tells me you aren't even qualified to be in the conversation.

NYC crowned Biggie in real time in 94 and 95. You can like Nas better all you want but NYC gave the crown to Biggie. FACTS.

 

[Plankton]

Facts breh, nikkas love rewriting history tho.

Thank you.

You can just tell who wasn't there watching it as it happened in real time. A bunch of Johnny come latelys were more then likely not even born let alone aren't even from NYC telling me I didnt see what I saw with my own eyes bringing up record sales when absolutely no one gave a fuk about records sales in 1994.