Biggie called Nas To Make A Collab diss record against Pac

[spliz]

Pac called Nas the ringleader for very logical reasons:

1) Nas was the first non Wu member to appear on a Wu album when he appeared on "Verbal Intercourse"

2) Nas was also on Kool G. Rap's album

3) Nas was being heralded as rap's messiah

4) Nas appeared on Mobb Deep's Infamous album

5) Nas appeared on Dre's Aftermath compilation on a song called "East/West Killas"

6) Nas drops It Was Written and it features several artists that Pac was dissing including Mobb Deep, Lauryn Hill, and Dr. Dre (who is on the intro to "Nas Is Coming" throwing shots). There's also the introduction of The Firm, which Dre was kind of a part of.

^^^ knowing all this, Nas looks more of a ring leader than Biggie. Nas has enough clout to pull in a beat from Dre at the height of the East vs. West tension. Not to mention, he also has beats from Stretch. Nas looked more of a threat than Biggie. I'm not saying Nas purposely was like, "I'm gonna put all these pieces together and go at Pac". It just happened that way, and to someone who really looked at it as war, how could he not think Nas wasn't the ringleader?

Nas was directly tied to his Thug Life crew. E Money Bags n all that. He was also directly tied to his Death Row East muscle such as Eric B etc etc. But I still feel like it was a more a respect thing than anything else.

 

[spliz]

It would have hurt Biggie's credibility because him rocking stolen jewelry implicates him in the robbery. That's much bigger than the jokes and him mocking Pac getting shot.

And even if Pac didn't see it, I'm sure he had people close to him that would've recognized Biggie rocking his jewelry.

I also wanted to mention nobody actually posting the jewelry Pac was rocking at the shooting. All the pictures of Pac rocking the jewelry are photo ops.

Yup yup yup. Benefit after benefit. Same courtesy u nikkas REFUSE to give Pac.

 

[JustCKing]

Yup yup yup. Benefit after benefit. Same courtesy u nikkas REFUSE to give Pac.

Again, I'm not giving Biggie the benefit of anything. The same would be extended to Pac. None of us were really there to truly know what happened.

 

[JustCKing]

Nas was directly tied to his Thug Life crew. E Money Bags n all that. He was also directly tied to his Death Row East muscle such as Eric B etc etc. But I still feel like it was a more a respect thing than anything else.

Of course it was respect. Nas was getting those looks because people respected his artistry probably moreso than they did Biggie. Pac probably looked at Nas as more his equal than Biggie.

 

[Excellenceofelegance]

Son. He was performing with it. Lol. Every single piece that got robbed? Lol. Come on man. If the shyt was reverse NOONE would be giving Pac all of this reasonable doubt. When it comes to Biggie nikkas turn the other cheek like dude was this innocent wouldn’t hurt a fly ass nikka meanwhile boy was out here like 6’3 beating the shyt out of lil ass 4’11 Lil Kim. Dude wasn’t perfect. U got a nikka arguing with me right now in this thread acting like Pac was wrong for wanting Biggie to answer the phone after he got robbed at his studio session and took gun charges for him.

You can Add Charlie Baltimore to that list.... but but but biggie would never hurt a fly meanwhile he was out here beating up chicks half his size

 

[Bigsuk]

It’s very possible that Pac never even saw the performances or pics. Pac was locked up while mad of this shyt was going on if u don’t remember. Who knows. I can maybe give him the benefit of the doubt if the nikka didn’t hop on the radio and get them clapped at in NY. If THAT didn’t destroy Biggie’s credibility than nothing else would. People still till this day brush over it like it was no big deal and sometimes even act like it didn’t happen. U don’t understand alotta Biggie fans and people close to him HATE Pac. Even till this day. They protect Biggie’s image no matter what which is admirable. I wish PAC’s people were the same way but they tend to keep it 100 when it comes to Pac. Yet someone Biggie fans keep talking like “Pac is God to Pac fans and he can do no wrong”.. When outside of the fanatics. People on PAC’s side and his fans tend to be more realistic and on Biggie’s side this nikka is an angel and nikkas ignore logic. Media and everything has a hand in this.

Come on spliz I’ve never heard you kick this shyt til now about biggie rocking pacs jewls until now … why ?? You keep bringing up the newyork newyork shooting which is a fair point to say biggie wasn’t no innocent nikka in the beef but never once have I heard you say big was rocking pacs shyt ever …. You nikkas is reaching now ….. pac would have found out by someone and he would be saying it if that was the case …. The only thing which I dno if it came from pacs mouth or someone close to pac around that time that allegedly mob deep was doing a show in newyork and apprently one ov the robbers from quad was there with pacs chain on not sure if they ment on stage or in the crowd I heard that rumour years ago not sure if it’s true or not at this point who knows ..… we still don’t know for sure who the 3 robbers were … we have dexter Issac saying him and named the other 2 then we have zayd describing them differently and saying he saw 1 ov them on a train a few years after that ….. to be honest the true identity of pacs robbers /shooters in newyork are more of a puzzle then his murder ……we know it came from Jimmy n them but not who the 3 robbers are for 100 % sure …..

 

[Renzo]

Pac recklessness put both of them in dangerous situations with real gangstas. Big is a small time hoodlum. What is he supposed go do against career criminals like Jimmy and Haitian Jack. Go to war and put his way out the streets in jeopardy? That’s why Bug told him not to fukk with those goons in the first place…especially as an out of towner.

I would have hit Pac with the as well.

Pac didn’t put them in shyt.. they wanted to extort him and he wasnt going let him so they tried to apply pressure by setting him up., the hit went out AFTER he shyt on them in the media.. Biggie was scared of them dudes..so much so in fact he and stretch could’ve ended up like Pac if they didn’t fall in line and they promptly did.. biggie went from getting leaned on to being their mouth piece to send shots at Pac.

 

[Robbie3000]

Pac didn’t put them in shyt.. they wanted to extort him and he wasnt going let him so they tried to apply pressure by setting him up., the hit went out AFTER he shyt on them in the media.. Biggie was scared of them dudes..so much so in fact he and stretch could’ve ended up like Pac if they didn’t fall in line and they promptly did.. biggie went from getting leaned on to being their mouth piece to send shots at Pac.

And what happened? He got shot and three years in jail. Big had wisdom. Sometimes you have to fall back. A rapper can’t win a war against gangstas. A rapper is limited to what he can do and the gangsta is not.

Pad didn’t understand this concept because he really didn’t understand the streets.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Of course it was respect. Nas was getting those looks because people respected his artistry probably moreso than they did Biggie. Pac probably looked at Nas as more his equal than Biggie.

facts

 

[Bigsuk]

And what happened? He got shot and three years in jail. Big had wisdom. Sometimes you have to fall back. A rapper can’t win a war against gangstas. A rapper is limited to what he can do and the gangsta is not.

Pad didn’t understand this concept because he really didn’t understand the streets.

This …. Even Timmy ru mob James and bountry als brother said he loves pac but keepin it real pac was always on the wrong end of the barrel ….

 

[spliz]

This …. Even Timmy ru mob James and bountry als brother said he loves pac but keepin it real pac was always on the wrong end of the barrel ….

Ok. If he said the opposite. U wouldn’t be quoting him cause all u nikkas have an imbalanced agenda and y’all full of shyt.

 

[Bigsuk]

Ok. If he said the opposite. U wouldn’t be quoting him cause all u nikkas have an imbalanced agenda and y’all full of shyt.

He was tho spliz … always on the wrong end of the barrel that’s keeping it a buck …. You can spin it like no no it’s cause he was a rider or wouldn’t be “extorted” where ever the hell yous got that thoery from but at the end ov the day Timmy ru was keeping it real ….

 

[JustCKing]

In 93 Big wasn’t sitting on 45k to just drop on some jewels like that.. he was rocking Pac shyt..
“Police said the three men fled on foot after making off with $45,000 in jewelry, including a diamond ring and several large gold chains” that’s from the police speaking to the Times. When it come to this nikka biggie and all the foul two faced shyt he did it’s ALWAYS a coincidence.. He just happened to have the exact same jewels as Pac even tho he himself said he wasn’t in a position to be balling like that.. he just happened to be cool with the same crip set that killed his man 6 months earlier dapping them up the night he was killed.. he just happened to take credit and say it was HIS team in the marine blue that did that ..all merely a coincidence of course.,

You do know that most of the jewelry rappers rocked was rented. They didn't own it. Again, the jewelry Biggie was rocking wasn't exclusive to Pac. These were generic pieces. The funny part about all of this, is the stolen jewelry that ya'll claim Biggie was rocking, Pac still has on in the pictures taken after the shooting. This was not the jewelry that was stolen:

^^^ How is Biggie rocking stolen jewelry if Pac was still rocking it himself?

 

[Roovers410]

Come on spliz I’ve never heard you kick this shyt til now about biggie rocking pacs jewls until now … why ?? You keep bringing up the newyork newyork shooting which is a fair point to say biggie wasn’t no innocent nikka in the beef but never once have I heard you say big was rocking pacs shyt ever …. You nikkas is reaching now ….. pac would have found out by someone and he would be saying it if that was the case …. The only thing which I dno if it came from pacs mouth or someone close to pac around that time that allegedly mob deep was doing a show in newyork and apprently one ov the robbers from quad was there with pacs chain on not sure if they ment on stage or in the crowd I heard that rumour years ago not sure if it’s true or not at this point who knows ..… we still don’t know for sure who the 3 robbers were … we have dexter Issac saying him and named the other 2 then we have zayd describing them differently and saying he saw 1 ov them on a train a few years after that ….. to be honest the true identity of pacs robbers /shooters in newyork are more of a puzzle then his murder ……we know it came from Jimmy n them but not who the 3 robbers are for 100 % sure …..

There is not 1 , not 1 legitimate source about Big rocking Pac jewels

 

[bigde09]

And what happened? He got shot and three years in jail. Big had wisdom. Sometimes you have to fall back. A rapper can’t win a war against gangstas. A rapper is limited to what he can do and the gangsta is not.

Pad didn’t understand this concept because he really didn’t understand the streets.

Big had so much wisdom and yet he went and got himself killed in LA