Big was a overweight lazy eye'd ugly bytch for releasing it after Pac died but Long Kiss Goodnight is the greatest diss ever

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You're pro west coast dude that always adds a horrible opinion with no kind of base for saying the goofy things you have over the years


That's a personal and bias opinion,I gave countless valid reasons. Since the personal confession song isn't enough for you:mjlol:
 

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Do you believe Warning, Nikkas Bleed, & Somebody's Got To Die & true drug stories/crimes that Big committed lol? It's like you hear & see what you wanna see. There's been no real evidence over the years that shows Big had anything to do with the Quad or Pac's murder. This is tiring

He literally tells you what happened to Pac and why all over the album.

When you say "My team in marine blue" and "Look at what you made me do, brains blew" on a song that's making fun of Pac for dying then you lose all benefit of the doubt. Biggie never thought this stuff would ever come to light.

It's not the 90s anymore we know what happened. Puff got his hands dirty and it wouldn't surprise me if Big did as well. Not sayin he 100% had something to do with it....but when you brag about that shyt, you suspect as well. I'm tired of the Biggie is innocent cap word to @spliz
 

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That's a personal and bias opinion,I gave countless valid reasons. Since the personal confession song isn't enough for you:mjlol:
You've never been to NY & you constantly have this weird goofy opinion about everything related to it which 99.9% of the time is way off base. That's why no one takes you serious; especially in these kinds of discussions because you ignore things & are extremely biased
 

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Mobb deep was bringing nikkas on stage talking about “this the nikka that shot Tupac!” Laughing

And then Pac comes out of jail and everyone is like why he buggin? :mjlol: Foh

Ny nikkas was being goofy crabs during the beef like they always were and didn’t like pac calling them out.



Scary nikkas sneak dissing, releasing diss tracks after he dies.

:comeon:
 

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He literally tells you what happened to Pac and why all over the album.

When you say "My team in marine blue" and "Look at what you made me do, brains blew" on a song that's making fun of Pac for dying then you lose all benefit of the doubt. Biggie never thought this stuff would ever come to light.

It's not the 90s anymore we know what happened. Puff got his hands dirty and it wouldn't surprise me if Big did as well. Not sayin he 100% had something to do with it....but when you brag about that shyt, you suspect as well. I'm tired of the Biggie is innocent cap word to @spliz
Do you not understand the gloves were off between the two? Even in death, Big hated the dude & let his real feelings out whether it was right or wrong. There's no evidence to suggest Big had him killed. He obviously still felt some kind of way about the whole situation. I'm done talking about this & especially with that goofy poster above
 

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You've never been to NY & you constantly have this weird goofy opinion about everything related to it which 99.9% of the time is way off base. That's why no one takes you serious; especially in these kinds of discussions because you ignore things & are extremely biased


Less feelings and more facts please. Pretty sure I can find instances of people saying you are way off base and bias. I'd like to be the first to put you in that category.

I never said I was stating a fact,only my opinion. Which is essentially all anyone has provided since the case has never truly been solved. If you like other theories better,that's perfectly fine:respect:
 

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💯.

They would rather run with the narrative that Suge paid a hitman. But told the hitman he could kill Puffy or Biggie. And Biggie just happened to be the unlucky recipient:stopitslime:

What's more likely is that nikkas in the know KNEW. And the person who got hit was the intended target:hubie:
Yep why let puff live? All I’m trying to say is big might have gotten his hands dirty. It’s not outlandish.

When he asks Pac “who’s a killer me or you?” on notorious thugs, that’s when it became possible for me.

Pac used to call himself bad boy killer….

Again biggie was spelling it out for you on LAD. He knew exactly what was gonna happen to Pac and might even helped here and there.

Suge said bet :ufdup:
 

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RZA has never addressed producing it. I wonder if he knew what Big was gonna spit on it. He scared. :wow:

That's a lie b/c RZA spoke on it on XXL's Life After Death track by track review (the best feature to ever come out of XXL) which was also the first place where Cease admitted it was explicitly about Pac:

23 "Long Kiss Goodnight"
Produced by RZA
Lil’ Cease: That was a one-nighter. That was about ’Pac. He had some shyt at the beginning of that though, nobody heard it, on the reel. We had to change it. It was a little too much. I can’t remember what Big said about him, but it was terrible. It couldn’t make it. He didn’t want to do it. He had some fire. But he didn’t want to make it too much. He just wanted to address it and to let nikka know, “I know what’s going on, and I could get wreck if I want to.” Like, “If I really wanted to get on ya nikkas, I could.”


Puffy: Naaah. It was just some MC lyrics. I know people wanna have their imagination, but it was just lyrics. You’re hearing it from the horse’s mouth. I would tell the truth. If Biggie was going to do a song about 2Pac, he would have just come out with it and said his name. Their gloves were basically off. 2Pac had did “Hit ’Em Up.”

RZA: Biggie was always pretty cool with me. He liked the Wu-Tang sound. He requested me to be on the album. I didn’t know if everybody in his camp agreed with it, because at one point there was a little bit of tension in the air—with Raekwon’s [Only Built 4] Cuban Linx... album and some of the statements that was made. But we was always cool with each other.
Biggie wrote the verse after his accident. At first we had Cappadonna doing the hook, talking a lot of shyt. In the beginning, you can hear Cappadonna. Then Puff did his thing at the end. I didn’t know it was going to be there but I know how they work. I wasn’t in the studio when they did that. I went in a couple of weeks after he did the verse. They wanted to mix it themselves, but they didn’t even know where to put things at. I had so many sounds in there. They didn’t know what the fukk I was thinking about.
We had about 10 basic musical elements on that track. At the end he’s talking about everybody was fukking with them at that time. He could have even been talking about me [laughs], ’cause there was some cuts at Biggie on the Cuban Linx... album.

I think the main point missing in the thread is that the song, due to the timeline w/ Big's accident, was written after Pac's passing, so it's not just the factor of releasing it, but that Long Kiss Goodnight is explicitly a farewell address dissing an already fallen enemy.
 
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