Big Daddy Kane = Most Overrated Rapper Ever

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Read before yall neg.


As a cat that grew up in the 80's the first time I heard Kane I thought he was Top 4 (behind KRS, LL and Rakim). But, then I heard G Rap on Symphony and his first two albums and :lupe: Kane moved to 5.

Then the 90's hit, and it was like Kane became a shell of himself. The problem I have is, no other rapper had as big a fall off from their first two albums to their third.

I mean the guy went from Raw, Set It Off, Aint no Half Stepping to this




:cracklupe:

His next four albums had about 5/6 songs COMBINED that were good. Many of his songs were fukking unlistenable. This is from a guy that was a legend people!!

I know he fathered the styles of mad emcees. Spare me the history lesson, I lived it.

But being truly objective, right now, I find it hard for Kane to make my top 15 of all time. You can peep my Top 5 below. I'd put LL, Chuck D, Cube, Scarface and a bunch of others before Kane.


I know many of yall think Kane and automatically put him in your top 5. But be real with yourself, tops 3 out of 8 of his albums were good. That's less than HALF. He was hot from 87-90. The 90's he was pretty much trash and for most of the 2000's he was silent.

That's a hot 2 albums every 25 year average. :scusthov:

ALL the greats have a better percentage than that.

So people, it's time to admit, Kane is the most overrated rapper ever. This was hard to say...but truth hurts.


 
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W.I.Z.E. said:
:whoa:

Read before yall neg.

As a cat that grew up in the 80's the first time I heard Kane I thought he was Top 4 (behind KRS, LL and Rakim). But, then I heard G Rap on Symphony and his first two albums and :lupe: Kane moved to 5.

Then the 90's hit, and it was like Kane became a shell of himself. The problem I have is, no other rapper had as big a fall off from their first two albums to their third.

I mean the guy went from Raw, Set It Off, Aint no Half Stepping to this



:cracklupe:

His next four albums had about 5/6 songs COMBINED that were good. Many of his songs were fukking unlistenable. This is from a guy that was a legend people!!

I know he fathered the styles of mad emcees. Spare me the history lesson, I lived it.

But being truly objective, right now, I find it hard for Kane to make my top 15 of all time. You can peep my Top 5 below. I'd put LL, Chuck D, Cube, Scarface and a bunch of others before Kane.

I know many of yall think Kane and automatically put him in your top 5. But be real with yourself, tops 3 out of 8 of his albums were good. That's less than HALF. He was hot from 87-90. The 90's he was pretty much trash and for most of the 2000's he was silent.

That's a hot 2 albums every 25 year average. :scusthov:

ALL the greats have a better percentage than that.

So people, it's time to admit, Kane is the most overrated rapper ever. This was hard to say...but truth hurts.
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:camby:

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nigruh is you crazy?

BDK is top flight, I agree that he has some wack ass production but the lyrics are serious
 
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I was never a big fan of BDK. he was a little too into himself with the 'smooth chocolate lover' shyt
 
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Nas came through the Illmatic and all the rapstars of the late 80's became Flabby-N-Sick super quick...That hppidity-hop flow of the 80's got swiftly transferred to Larry Holmes Gardens...

2Pac made a song Old Skool talking about people in his own age bracket...:mjlol:

My personal opinion is that The GOATS can only be chosen from rappers that were actively relevant and influential from mid-90s to 98...

That was the PINNACLE of hip hop music...Any body outside this bracket is not worthy...Except for Eminem, and only because he has sold the most records..

The rappers before the mid-90s are PIONEERS the rappers after 2000 are caricatures, expect for 50 Cents, and Chief Keef and them guys...They brought hip hop back to the grimmey shyt...
 
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W.I.Z.E. said:
:whoa:

Read before yall neg.

As a cat that grew up in the 80's the first time I heard Kane I thought he was Top 4 (behind KRS, LL and Rakim). But, then I heard G Rap on Symphony and his first two albums and :lupe: Kane moved to 5.

Then the 90's hit, and it was like Kane became a shell of himself. The problem I have is, no other rapper had as big a fall off from their first two albums to their third.

I mean the guy went from Raw, Set It Off, Aint no Half Stepping to this



:cracklupe:

His next four albums had about 5/6 songs COMBINED that were good. Many of his songs were fukking unlistenable. This is from a guy that was a legend people!!

I know he fathered the styles of mad emcees. Spare me the history lesson, I lived it.

But being truly objective, right now, I find it hard for Kane to make my top 15 of all time. You can peep my Top 5 below. I'd put LL, Chuck D, Cube, Scarface and a bunch of others before Kane.

I know many of yall think Kane and automatically put him in your top 5. But be real with yourself, tops 3 out of 8 of his albums were good. That's less than HALF. He was hot from 87-90. The 90's he was pretty much trash and for most of the 2000's he was silent.

That's a hot 2 albums every 25 year average. :scusthov:

ALL the greats have a better percentage than that.

So people, it's time to admit, Kane is the most overrated rapper ever. This was hard to say...but truth hurts.
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As hard as it is to say this, because Kane is tied with Nas as my 2nd favorite mc, you are right. He was only hot for his first 2 albums and everything else was either just OK or trash. His first 2 albums were so superb tho that they still earned him the ability to be considered one of the GOAT's. I personally think that he was attempting to follow the LL path and be more of a ladies man but he went too far and he got lost. Also, when he realized that people liked his similes and metaphors, he started concentrating on that and he started sounding dated. As much as most people would argue with you, notice that the only songs by Big Daddy Kane that ever get mentioned are from his first 2 albums. I admit that there are songs here and there from him that were hot, later, but they are few and far between. I would give a new Kane album a chance but I wouldn't have alot of faith in it being a complete and hot album.
 
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nineteeneightysix said:
Nas came through the Illmatic and all the rapstars of the late 80's became Flabby-N-Sick super quick...That hppidity-hop flow of the 80's got swiftly transferred to Larry Holmes Gardens...

2Pac made a song Old Skool talking about people in his own age bracket...:mjlol:

My personal opinion is that The GOATS can only be chosen from rappers that were actively relevant and influential from mid-90s to 98...

That was the PINNACLE of hip hop music...Any body outside this bracket is not worthy...Except for Eminem, and only because he has sold the most records..

The rappers before the mid-90s are PIONEERS the rappers after 2000 are caricatures, expect for 50 Cents, and Chief Keef and them guys...They brought hip hop back to the grimmey shyt...
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Breh, you already exposed yourself as a cac metal fan who recently got into hip hop you only listen to Pac and Chief Keef, and you equate G.O.A.T. status to album sales, you're obsessed with drill rap and can't be over 20, it's also pretty clear you don't have it all upstairs.
:camby:

Don't come into a Big Daddy Kane thread talking about Chief Keef is a "pioneer" :scusthov:
 
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mrkaine said:
As hard as it is to say this, because Kane is tied with Nas as my 2nd favorite mc, you are right. He was only hot for his first 2 albums and everything else was either just OK or trash. His first 2 albums were so superb tho that they still earned him the ability to be considered one of the GOAT's. I personally think that he was attempting to follow the LL path and be more of a ladies man but he went too far and he got lost. Also, when he realized that people liked his similes and metaphors, he started concentrating on that and he started sounding dated. As much as most people would argue with you, notice that the only songs by Big Daddy Kane that ever get mentioned are from his first 2 albums. I admit that there are songs here and there from him that were hot, later, but they are few and far between. I would give a new Kane album a chance but I wouldn't have alot of faith in it being a complete and hot album.
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thank you for an intelligent, informed response. Others in here are posting from a point of sentimentalism. Many of them weren't even listening to hip hop when BDK rose to stardom. People are saying his production lacked. That was a criticism for Rakim. But notice, people don't say Rakim fell off lyrically. Same for G Rap. You gonna tell me that "Daddy's Home" was strong lyrically just lacking I'm production?!
:comeon:

Funny thing is...he released an album last year but people ain't talmbout that.

 
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