I’m not a cac but Yeezus is so overhated. Even if you don’t fukk with it. I don’t have the ear Ye has to put these samples together. Watch this shyt
Big Boi outrapped Andre on quite a few of they jawns specially early like most of SPLCM and at least half of ATLiens. It wasn't until Aquemini where Andre started pulling ahead
but in general the lunatic Andre stans act like he outshined him on every track
And at the end of the day Sir Lucious Left Foot was a great album one of the best of 2010 even so we know Big Boi got that
And Love Below dont countand Speakerboxxx was better anyways
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Except that's not how it is at all. Their own peers who are fans of Kast have Andre 3000 in their Top 5. David Banner speaks highly of Andre's verse off "Da Art of Storytellin". He never says anything negative about Big's verse, but gives high praise to Dre's and even the most avid Kast fan would do the same. Trick Daddy had Andre in his Top 5. Scarface and T.I. have put Andre 3000 in their top 5's. T.I. even has it in a rhyme (the intro from Paper Trail). A lot of MC's have.
And to go even further Hot 107.9 had a GOATC tournament going NCAA style back in 2007. Andre 3000 won it. Anyone can tell you Hot 107.9ATL isn't running rampant with cac fans and elitists.
There's an interview from the 90's at an HBCU where a student is reciting Andre's verse from "Thought Process" verbatim.
Maybe I came off a certain way but I got no problem with anyone thinking Dre is better or preferring his style or whatever. And not trying to say everyone who does is white. I just got a problem with the narrative Big Boi is some decent rapper who got lucky to be carried by Dre's creative genius. Dre's style both musically and persona wise is going to grab a lot more attention than Big Boi's more standard style but you can easily argue he was just as important creatively and that he was the one who kept them from spiraling off into pretentious unlistenable weird shyt.
And again I don't remember this narrative until around Stankonia. On Aquemini and even Atliens that Dre was taking on a more alternative and out there approach but they were mostly seen as two sides of the same coin back then. It really took off when they made the jump from popular rap group to pop culture phenomenon and critical darlings in the mainstream press. And it peaked with Speakerboxxx/Love Below even though a lot of us preferred Speakerboxxx. That's why I'm saying a lot of it was driven by mainstream media, especially white hipster types and elitists.
I don't agree that nobody gives love to Big Boi's work outside of Outkast especially the first album. It's just always gonna be overshadowed by Outkast.
It’s definitely a grower/sleeper. Industrial ain’t really a black thing but I feel he pulled it off.I bought yeezus and skipped through it on release day. It sat on my phone for weeks until I had to drive my car from Atlanta to Tacoma. I decided to give it a spin once I hit St. Louis. It was turned up really loud and I had my windows down when I wasn’t stopping for gas or sleep. I played that shyt non stop until Spokane. It’s one of my favorites now.
Big Boi’s Stankonia flow is underrated as a whole.i was just listening to 'ms jackson' yesterday and was thinking 'dude went off' he really doesnt get his due respect. his flow on there was tight.
i was with you until you said big boi was eccentric. thats not his style. hes always been the lowkey cool unassuming cat.I never seen anyone who was a serious Kast fan or even a Hip Hop fan in general reduce Big Boi's role in the group as being "carried". The only time I've seen that implied or stated is when Cee Lo made the claim that Andre wrote for Big Boi on the first album, which was refuted and I think he even went back on that statement. Big Boi is as as eclectic and "weird" as Andre 3000. Andre doesn't even appear on "Snappin & Trappin" and that song is dope, but sonically, it's out there. There's several songs on Speakerboxxx that are eclectic. Vicious Lies & Dangerous Rumors definitely has its moments.
Really, the whole Andre 3000 being viewed as a GOAT lyricist and MC could be argued as being rooted in how Outkast was marketed. It was " the poet and the player". Which one do you think folks would gravitate towards as an MC and lyricist? It was going to be "the poet" more so than "the player".
i was just listening to 'ms jackson' yesterday and was thinking 'dude went off' he really doesnt get his due respect. his flow on there was tight.
Booth don't know shyt about shyt and posts like this confirm itWackstar
Put Freddie Gibbs in his place on an Outkast 2022 album and NO ONE will miss him
Yall are gonna see this and own up to it.Outkast fans love both. People will do this Big Boi is better stuff off and on acting like we don’t know he’s nice. Same people ain’t said nothing about his music post Outkast… Big just recently put a song out with Sleepy Brown. who’s really talking about it though? The tweet in the OP framed the tweet making it look like Big Boi posted that rap after Dre’s verse from Kanye’s song leaked and got all the praise. Big Boi posted that rap himself like a week ago abd Nobody was saying this stuff. They’re talking now because Dre is getting praise again. It’s sickening… it’s possible to love both Big and Dre at the same time.