Biden says K-12 education isn't working — calls for free pre-K to "grade 14"

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Do yall ask questions? More schooling to do what exactly? A lot of yall sucking Biden dikk cosigning anything he does and says without thinking critically.

Where are the jobs to begin with? Wasnt Biden reversing Trumps policies with immigration where they are allowing the chinese and indian tech folks to snatch the jobs over here up. fukk JOE BIDEN.
How are you thinking critically without reading the OP or any of the posts that followed it?:skip:
 

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This would be huge for the black community. :ohhh:
My kid's school district already doing this with an optional program. My kid will graduate high school with his high school diploma and associates degree. I will only have to pay for 2 years at the university :troll:
 

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Pretty wild we’re gonna sit back and let China lap us because one party is delusional about federal spending. This is a great idea but will never happen without major changes to how the senate works.
 

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How are you thinking critically without reading the OP or any of the posts that followed it?:skip:


Ill make this real simple. What exactly is the end game and who is this supposed to help?

The BIG problem with this forum is too many people arent being honest with themselves. I wouldnt expect someone who votes democrats and subscribes to bullshyt ideology to understand my message.

I can never understand anybody who is loyal to a side just to be loyal. Thats dumb. Folks ready to say this is a great idea without knowing whats the plan.

Its REAL sad how folks are quick to bring up republicans and Trumps name up to deflect having to explain Bidens failures which are piling up.

Nothing about jobs or bringing back the economy which you hear NOTHING about. My thing is instead of giving more programming because thats what school really is. How about bringing in jobs so people know what the hell they are going to school for because a lot of people going to school because thats what they are being told.

See nobody is asking questions. Have folks getting this programming then being put out here not being prepared.

They are more or less just bullshytting.
 
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I think the Pre-K idea is very good. Early childhood education is very beneficial. I do think the US needs to make its K-12 education more rigorous, however. Making CC free is indeed noble, but it will devalue the weight of an AA degree and a BA.

Money will be printed by the federal government, therefore slightly devaluing stored wealth which is primarily held by rich white people. The beneficiaries of the preschool/college education will then go on to be FAR more societally productive than they would need to be to make up the difference.

Actually, additional money printing actually hurts the middle class more as most of their income is in the form of wages and their purchasing power falls as more money is printed. The rich have more of their wealth stored in money-generating assets (stocks, RE, etc).

Per money printing, eventually, the US is gonna have to ask questions about the sustainability of its deficit spending. Interest rates will go up eventually and when it does that servicing that government debt is gonna get very expensive very quickly. And when that happens, either gov't cuts spending or raises taxes. I think the latter happens.
 
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Ill make this real simple. What exactly is the end game and who is this supposed to help?

The BIG problem with this forum is too many people arent being honest with themselves. I wouldnt expect someone who votes democrats and subscribes to bullshyt ideology to understand my message.

I can never understand anybody who is loyal to a side just to be loyal. Thats dumb. Folks ready to say this is a great idea without knowing whats the plan.

Its REAL sad how folks are quick to bring up republicans and Trumps name up to deflect having to explain Bidens failures which are piling up.

Nothing about jobs or bringing back the economy which you hear NOTHING about. My thing is instead of giving more programming because thats what school really is. How about bringing in jobs so people know what the hell they are going to school for because a lot of people going to school because thats what they are being told.

See nobody is asking questions. Have folks getting this programming then being put out here not being prepared.

They are more or less just bullshytting.
So you're never going to read the OP?
 

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So you're never going to read the OP?

Did you read the article in the OP yourself? I dont think you understand the article. :dame: yall trying too hard to make other people sound crazy when its just yall.

This defending Biden even when shyt is dumb MUST STOP. This is just pathetic.
 
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Yes. That's why I know the answers to the questions are asking are in there.

Breh, being completely honest, i think the article is insulting to anybody who is alive living in todays america.

Seriously, when did a high school diploma EVER ensure a middle class income or job? This is news to me. Even in the 80s, that wasnt shyt. Like why are they pulling up stats from 1980 anyway. They arent even up to speed with todays world or even what was going on back then. Who was getting it in with a high school degree? If it was a certain population or demographic, they need to be specific on that. Otherwise, thats bullshyt.

And as someone else in here said, why should folks who have 2 year degrees such as myself be cool with this shyt? So our associates degrees that we paid for out of pocket should be devalued because nobody wants to be real now? The problem is that they arent saying the truth. If the government does this loan forgiveness shyt and makes community colleges free, then all of us that paid money to our loans, paid them off and etc SHOULD be compensated. Im losing money and im trying to do this shyt right.

Bring back the jobs first or make them available before you have all these people getting degrees for nothing. What jobs are these folks going to be doing?
 

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But this is why i dont get why people are caping so hard for Biden or anybody whos democrat or republican to the point where they refuse to give feedback or say "this aint it". Its tyranny to force policies that dont work and cause more problems and chaos instead of fixing the problems that cause it in the first place.
 

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Breh, being completely honest, i think the article is insulting to anybody who is alive living in todays america.

Seriously, when did a high school diploma EVER ensure a middle class income or job? This is news to me. Even in the 80s, that wasnt shyt. Like why are they pulling up stats from 1980 anyway. They arent even up to speed with todays world or even what was going on back then. Who was getting it in with a high school degree? If it was a certain population or demographic, they need to be specific on that. Otherwise, thats bullshyt.

And as someone else in here said, why should folks who have 2 year degrees such as myself be cool with this shyt? So our associates degrees that we paid for out of pocket should be devalued because nobody wants to be real now? The problem is that they arent saying the truth. If the government does this loan forgiveness shyt and makes community colleges free, then all of us that paid money to our loans, paid them off and etc SHOULD be compensated. Im losing money and im trying to do this shyt right.

Bring back the jobs first or make them available before you have all these people getting degrees for nothing. What jobs are these folks going to be doing?
So just say that. You're one of those shyt was tough for me so fukk the future types.
 

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So just say that. You're one of those shyt was tough for me so fukk the future types.

How old are you? Realistically speaking, a lot of you guys sound like you dont have any clue on the world you are speaking of.

Tell me. What jobs do you think are going to be out there for these degrees? A lot of you smartdumb cats are clueless when the jobs convo comes up. How many posters on here are asking for advice on how to get a job? A lot of you guys are scared to give advice or say what you did to get where youre at because you feel your position will be threatened or you just want to be the only person doing well so you leave everyone in the dark. If you were in the position to create jobs and etc, YOU WOULDNT DO IT YOURSELF.

We arent even talking about the employers that are responsible for employing the population at large which are usually privately owned and you already know what thats about. That alone in itself is the problem. The government also has to allow employment or for people to be employers so there can be employees.

See its not just policy and talking about shyt. You have to understand what people need, what people want and etc. These politicians arent even aware of their own shyt. They dont give a fukk and yall all letting them do whatever like "yeah, we trust yall". You voted for them so hold them accountable.

Im speaking REALITY. And you cats is talking FANTASY. This is why yall and me dont see eye to eye a lot of times.
 
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Actually, additional money printing actually hurts the middle class more as most of their income is in the form of wages and their purchasing power falls as more money is printed. The rich have more of their wealth stored in money-generating assets (stocks, RE, etc).
Wage-earners don't face inflation issues if there's any sort of robust job market, as the incomes and wages naturally rise alongside inflation. Since government spending improves the job market, chances are the wages are going to rise in line with the inflation. It's those who rely on savings who are hurt much more than those who rely on wages.

The money-generating assets only help the rich if their assets are receiving adjustable-rate returns. When assets with fixed returns (fixed-rate bonds, mortgages, loans, etc.), the rich are screwed over by inflation because the bonds lose their expected return value and the debtors find it easier and easier to pay their loans off. In an economy so heavily based on debt like our own, inflation advantages debtors and disadvantages creditors.

We don't need to argue hypotheticals, just look at how the wealthy behave. The rich hate government spending unless the spending goes directly to them. The rich hate inflation to the point (see early 1980s Reagan Administration) where they'd actually cause a recession rather than face the risk of inflation. The rich are always heavily pressuring the government to avoid making moves that risk inflationary outcomes, while populists are typically pushing for inflationary outcomes.
 

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Wage-earners don't face inflation issues if there's any sort of robust job market, as the incomes and wages naturally rise alongside inflation.

But that hasn't been the case in the past 10-15 years. Wages have not kept up with inflation and people are getting by tapping into more debt. Outside of falling purchasing power (the dollar isn't stretching as it used to), there is still the issue of rising government debt which will get much more expensive once the Fed raises rates (they will do it eventually, especially as inflation starts to pick up). Once that happens the government will have to raise taxes which becomes a double whammy for the populace (high inflation/falling purchasing power and increased taxes).

The government has a mandate to ensure its citizens have the opportunity to pursue a better life, but there has to be a measure of sustainability with spending. If it's increasing Corp taxes or cutting the defense budget in part to fund it I think that's good. But the lasagna approach of layering is irresponsible. The bill will come due and when it does, it's the citizens that will suffer.
 
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