Between Stop and Frisk & justifying Redlining, how can any black person support Bloomberg?

[Professor Emeritus]

I hope Bloomberg doesn't win but to be honest, I would, he'd still be better than Trump. Even though this would set an upsetting precedent that the guy with the deepest pockets can buy his or her way into the oval office.

With that I don't think a lot of posters are thinking long term what another 4 years of Trump means, he already got the Supreme Court to rule gerrymandering as 'not in their jurisdiction'.

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Like it says in that article above, it isn't a choice between Bloomberg and Trump. If Bloomberg goes against Trump he's going to get slaughtered, because Trump's support is static but the Democrats in general are never going to turn out for fukking Bloomberg no matter how many ads he runs and how .much money he pays for endorsements. Best case scenario he gets 90% of Clinton supporters and 5% of disillusioned Trumpers. Wouldn't even be able to equal Clinton's loss.

 

[Dr. Acula]

So all the "Blue no matter what" folks, let me go on record, this dude absolutely will not get my vote. I'll just take 4 more years of Trump. This dude outside of his party affiliation, at this moment, is very much like Trump. He is a republican with a Democrat label and I also won't award someone essentially trying to buy the election. He represents exactly what is wrong with our system.

 

[mastermind]

I hope Bloomberg doesn't win but to be honest, I would, he'd still be better than Trump. Even though this would set an upsetting precedent that the guy with the deepest pockets can buy his or her way into the oval office.

With that I don't think a lot of posters are thinking long term what another 4 years of Trump means, he already got the Supreme Court to rule gerrymandering as 'not in their jurisdiction'.

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I am not sure how anyone thinks Bloomberg will be better than Trump when he enacted racist policies of his own.

That’s not an endorsement of Trump or saying support him over Bloomberg for the slowly mcslowsky’s out there.

 

[rapbeats]

In the general election yes. Like I said it's not personal, I don't like the guy but I can put my personal feelings aside and do what is best for the country. And I'm not even nationalistic like that, but I do live and plan to live here for the foreseeable future.

oh boy. people still dont get it.

Its not about you not liking the guy, odds are you dont know him personally anyway. so you cant even say "its not personal". Of course it isnt. you dont know him like that.

When a candidate has this kind of baggage it means these are the things that will cause him to come up with what he deems are plans/solutions to problems.

If the man sees minorities(especially black people and latins) as a problem..>he does... what do you think that means for those two groups?

Lets say for fun New york was america when he was running NY. lets say he was stopping and frisking all little black boys/girls & little brown latinos/latinas. and lets say you were one of those constantly harassed by the gestapo. would you be cool with that guy being your president? What if one of those young adults/teens were your children. would you be cool with that guy being your president? Of course not.

So how on earth are you ok with that dude being your president in the near future? You can't be unless you dont care about those people. even if you'ere one of those people. some people only care about themselves and their immediate family/friends circle. thats it. some people even if they are of this group also will try to lie to themselves and say stuff like "well, if you aint doing nothing wrong you dont have anything to worry about."

So there is no LOGICAL way on earth you should vote for this racist clown. The same way there's no logical way on earth you should vote for the racist clown we have as president now. Same guy, different suit.

You shouldnt have to have someone call black people the N word with the hard ER in order for you to admit who he is.

 

[rapbeats]

So all the "Blue no matter what" folks, let me go on record, this dude absolutely will not get my vote. I'll just take 4 more years of Trump. This dude outside of his party affiliation, at this moment, is very much like Trump. He is a republican with a Democrat label and I also won't award someone essentially trying to buy the election. He represents exactly what is wrong with our system.

Thank you...

how people play like they dont understand this is telling. who the hell is blue no matter what? when its clear as day you have people like bloom who are virtually republicans anyway? how simple minded can someone be to just vote blue because the guy has a "D" next to his name even if all of his policies are "R". all of his way of thinking/approaches to problems are "R" like. The people he supported and liked are "R" people. come on yall. yall can't be this simple minded and blind. i just refuse to believe it.

 

[feelosofer]

I am not sure how anyone thinks Bloomberg will be better than Trump when he enacted racist policies of his own.

That’s not an endorsement of Trump or saying support him over Bloomberg for the slowly mcslowsky’s out there.

I think he is going to have to oddly enough move to the left some if he wins the nom. He needs the youth vote. Even so he's more level headed than Trump by some degree. I'll take a moderate Republican (which Bloomberg really is at heart) than an out and out madman (Trump) who runs America like a spoiled toddler and is prone to making decisions that could actually endanger us. Imagine if Trumps wins 2020, with a Republican party that has proven that they will let him do whatever he wants. Yikes.

 

[Dr. Acula]

I think he is going to have to oddly enough move to the left some if he wins the nom. He needs the youth vote. Even so he's more level headed than Trump by some degree. I'll take a moderate Republican (which Bloomberg really is at heart) than an out and out madman (Trump) who runs America like a spoiled toddler and is prone to making decisions that could actually endanger us. Imagine if Trumps wins 2020, with a Republican party that has proven that they will let him do whatever he wants. Yikes.

If these are my options as a liberal, why should I bother even choosing one. I'd just not vote.

 

[feelosofer]

If these are my options as a liberal, why should I bother even choosing one. I'd just not vote.

I wouldn't blame, you. I really hope Bloomberg or Biden don't win.

Like I said in another post I don't want this country to become a place where you can just buy your self into office.

 

[rapbeats]

If these are my options as a liberal, why should I bother even choosing one. I'd just not vote.

again, thank you.

people listen. Imagine you see two Klu Klux dudes on the ballot.

One with a Red Hood on, the other with a Blue Hood on.

You have 3 choices.

Vote for the Red Hood kkk guy, Vote for the Blue Hood kkk guy, or dont vote at all. You better choose #3. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO VOTE. no matter what anyone tells you. and no, not voting does not mean you dont have a right to complain. YOU DO. as long as you're a tax paying citizen you have a right to complain about what your government does or doesnt do. its that simple.

 

[mastermind]

I think he is going to have to oddly enough move to the left some if he wins the nom. He needs the youth vote. Even so he's more level headed than Trump by some degree. I'll take a moderate Republican (which Bloomberg really is at heart) than an out and out madman (Trump) who runs America like a spoiled toddler and is prone to making decisions that could actually endanger us. Imagine if Trumps wins 2020, with a Republican party that has proven that they will let him do whatever he wants. Yikes.

I don’t care about getting elected, I care about what they would do when elected. Bloomberg is a super wealthy, racist, and misogynistic, piece of shyt.

I have to repeat it again, he is basically a richer Trump.

 

[88m3]

I was going to write something up but he's never going to get the nomination /



Stop and Frisk is more than Bloomberg you guys may want to look into the origins if you're this bored

 

[AnonymityX1000]

oh boy. people still dont get it.

Its not about you not liking the guy, odds are you dont know him personally anyway. so you cant even say "its not personal". Of course it isnt. you dont know him like that.

When a candidate has this kind of baggage it means these are the things that will cause him to come up with what he deems are plans/solutions to problems.

If the man sees minorities(especially black people and latins) as a problem..>he does... what do you think that means for those two groups?

Lets say for fun New york was america when he was running NY. lets say he was stopping and frisking all little black boys/girls & little brown latinos/latinas. and lets say you were one of those constantly harassed by the gestapo. would you be cool with that guy being your president? What if one of those young adults/teens were your children. would you be cool with that guy being your president? Of course not.

So how on earth are you ok with that dude being your president in the near future? You can't be unless you dont care about those people. even if you'ere one of those people. some people only care about themselves and their immediate family/friends circle. thats it. some people even if they are of this group also will try to lie to themselves and say stuff like "well, if you aint doing nothing wrong you dont have anything to worry about."

So there is no LOGICAL way on earth you should vote for this racist clown. The same way there's no logical way on earth you should vote for the racist clown we have as president now. Same guy, different suit.

You shouldnt have to have someone call black people the N word with the hard ER in order for you to admit who he is.

If he winds up being the Dem nominee it is either him or Trump that has any chance of winning right? I have no problem with anyone even voting third party, do what you feel. But my preference is to put my name down as someone who voted Dem so I can continue to criticize Dems and it be seen as an ally trying to give recommendations beneficial to the party. That's the best strategy wise for me. Protesting by not voting at all I don't respect, if you are Black you know the right to vote was fought for and people literally died so we could do it. Honor that, it's not even hard to do here in NYC. It literally takes 3-5 minutes to vote it's not a hassle like at all. But if you can't vote for a 'racist' or someone you deem did something below board by all means vote third party, but vote at least.

 

[hashmander]

I hope Bloomberg doesn't win but to be honest, I would, he'd still be better than Trump. Even though this would set an upsetting precedent that the guy with the deepest pockets can buy his or her way into the oval office.

With that I don't think a lot of posters are thinking long term what another 4 years of Trump means, he already got the Supreme Court to rule gerrymandering as 'not in their jurisdiction'.

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i won't vote for president if he's the D nominee. i'd proudly wear that "a non-vote is a vote for trump". bloomberg winning the D nomination will destroy any pretense of an opposition party. this isn't you all bytching about some moderate democrat who doesn't go as far to the left as you want them to. this a racist republican who just happens to support gun control. and gun rights is one of the issues i'm generally in agreement with republicans about.

and i don't trust bloomberg and a republican senate to nominate any judges i would find acceptable anyway.

 

[wtfyomom]

To me Bloomberg vs trump is the epitome of what lesser of two evils voting gets you , literally a republican vs a republican.

Cornell West was on Bill Maehr in 2016 and he asked maehr who would he vote for if it’s trump vs David duke. And everyone thinks it’s a joke. But if it really is trump vs bloom, then in 30 years it will be the trump character running for the dems and an open kkk member running for the GOP. fukk no I ain’t voting for Bloomberg I’ll stay home

 

[saturn7]

All this recent Bloomberg support shows most black politicians are completely sold out and are cowardly.

They keep pushing this "electability" and "he's a billionaire" as reasons they feel he can beat Trump. I've seen no polling or statistics showing Bloomberg winning anything head to head vs. Trump.

Our politicians don't talk about policy only platitudes. Young black folks please wake up and don't be as scared and cowardly as our previous generations. Bloomberg is the poster boy for income inequality yet all these black politicians think he is the solution.