Between Stop and Frisk & justifying Redlining, how can any black person support Bloomberg?

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Pardon my ignorance but is Bloomberg polling at numbers that show him as a potential threat or possible frontrunner? He's been getting a lot of attention lately after playing the background to the point I thought he'd be another DiBlasio. What's changed?
 

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Pardon my ignorance but is Bloomberg polling at numbers that show him as a potential threat or possible frontrunner? He's been getting a lot of attention lately after playing the background to the point I thought he'd be another DiBlasio. What's changed?
1. He's stepped up ad spending to the point of having multiple ads even during the superbowl

2. he's been buying endorsements from black organizations
 

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All you need to know about the shadow centrist/fake dem/pink republican agenda in this country is to see how quickly they all rallied behind the Republican who managed to dupe everyone into believing he was a Democrat.

When they saw it was a race between Sanders and Warren, all kinds of centrist candidatess started showing up and running. Buttigieg and Klobuchar got all kinds of positive press and Warren took the blunt of the "too liberal" fallout.
 

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All you need to know about the shadow centrist/fake dem/pink republican agenda in this country is to see how quickly they all rallied behind the Republican who managed to dupe everyone into believing he was a Democrat.

When they saw it was a race between Sanders and Warren, all kinds of centrist candidatess started showing up and running. Buttigieg and Klobuchar got all kinds of positive press and Warren took the blunt of the "too liberal" fallout.
Yeah

I'm disgusted
 

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Lol Ross Douthat of all people absolutely ethered Bloomberg and the Democrats in his NYT column
Opinion | The Bloomberg Temptation
But Democrats considering this sales pitch should be very clear on what a Bloomberg presidency would mean. Bloomberg does not have Trump’s flagrant vices (though some of his alleged behavior with women is pretty bad) or his bald disdain for norms and rules and legal niceties, and so a Bloomberg presidency will feel less institutionally threatening, less constitutionally perilous, than the ongoing wildness of the Trump era — in addition to delivering at least some of the policy changes that liberals and Democrats desire.

However, feelings can be deceiving. Trump’s authoritarian tendencies are naked on his Twitter feed, but Bloomberg’s imperial instincts, his indifference to limits on his power, are a conspicuous feature of his career. Trump jokes about running for a third term; Bloomberg actually managed it, bulldozing through the necessary legal changes. Trump tries to bully the F.B.I. and undermine civil liberties; Bloomberg ran New York as a miniature surveillance state. Trump has cowed the Republican Party with celebrity and bombast; Bloomberg has spent his political career buying organizations and politicians that might otherwise impede him. Trump blusters and bullies the press; Bloomberg literally owns a major media organization. Trump has Putin envy; Bloomberg hearts Xi Jinping.

In our era of congressional abdication, all presidents are prodded or tempted toward power grabs and caesarism. But Bloomberg’s career, no less than Trump’s, suggest that as president this would be less a temptation than a default approach. And the former mayor, unlike the former “Apprentice” star, is ferociously competent, with a worldview very much aligned with the great and good, from D.C. to Silicon Valley — which means that he would have much more room to behave abnormally without facing a Resistance movement of activists and journalists and judges.

To choose Bloomberg as the alternative to Trump, then, is to bet that a chaotic, corrupt populist is a graver danger to what remains of the Republic than a grimly-competent plutocrat with a history of executive overreach and strong natural support in all our major power centers.

That seems like a very unwise bet. Democrats who want to leverage Trump’s unpopularity to move the country leftward should support Bernie Sanders. Democrats who prefer a return-to-normalcy campaign should unite behind a normal politician like Amy Klobuchar. Those who choose Bloomberg should know what they’re inviting: An exchange of Trumpian black comedy for oligarchy’s velvet fist.
 

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Deflection? Ok.

I’m just wondering if you had any thoughts on these two racist billionaire monstrosities both currently subverting democracy in previously unfathomable ways being brought to us by NYC.

Speak on it, gawd.
Aren't they both moving their primary residence to Florida? :umad:
 

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Pardon my ignorance but is Bloomberg polling at numbers that show him as a potential threat or possible frontrunner? He's been getting a lot of attention lately after playing the background to the point I thought he'd be another DiBlasio. What's changed?
No, he's not. He's polling around the Same numbers Warren was polling at in the first two contests and currently poling similar to Klobuchar.
 

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Pardon my ignorance but is Bloomberg polling at numbers that show him as a potential threat or possible frontrunner? He's been getting a lot of attention lately after playing the background to the point I thought he'd be another DiBlasio. What's changed?
he's polling at about 15%, third behind Biden and Sanders. He's doing well in states where no one has the money to run ads in like Florida. He's flooding the zone on Super Tuesday. FiveThirtyEight projects him to get 769 delegates. he won't be able to win but he can get enough delegates to force a contested convention

Who Will Win The 2020 Democratic Primary?
 

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he's polling at about 15%, third behind Biden and Sanders. He's doing well in states where no one has the money to run ads in like Florida. He's flooding the zone on Super Tuesday. FiveThirtyEight projects him to get 769 delegates. he won't be able to win but he can get enough delegates to force a contested convention

Who Will Win The 2020 Democratic Primary?

Okay, I was just wondering. I know a leftist YouTuber made a video warning people about Bloomberg several weeks ago and I was thinking, "Is this even necessary? He's so late to the game he's going to go out like Rudy did in '08." Looks like this is one of those rare times I was wrong. :wow:

I remember it being stated that the Overton Window has shifted so much to the fringes over the last several decades that Richard Nixon and Barack Obama would fall closely together on the left to right political scale. Given that Bloomberg is far more right of center than Obama I guess he'd be closer to Barry Goldwater.

Chilling.
 

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Okay, I was just wondering. I know a leftist YouTuber made a video warning people about Bloomberg several weeks ago and I was thinking, "Is this even necessary? He's so late to the game he's going to go out like Rudy did in '08." Looks like this is one of those rare times I was wrong. :wow:

I remember it being stated that the Overton Window has shifted so much to the fringes over the last several decades that Richard Nixon and Barack Obama would fall closely together on the left to right political scale. Given that Bloomberg is far more right of center than Obama I guess he'd be closer to Barry Goldwater.

Chilling.
I thought Obama said that himself
 
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