Best Rapper Alive - 2013

[wingstop]

I don't think they are putting out inferior products.

How did Rae push the landscape or hit the culture in any way? What sound did Linx 2 usher in, what lyrical styles came out of it, what trends or slang did it start, what MC's or producers did it influence, what classic songs came out of it that the hip hop community as a whole embraces or song that just symbolize a movement or moment? The first Cuban Linx had all of that, the second was forgettable. Cuban Linx 2 was an album that only 90's stans/Wu stans held in high regard, the sequel to an All-Time classic. People weren't playing that shyt popularity matters its not the biggest factor but it matters. Linx 2 is an album that had been on the shelf for years, due to label politics and other shyt it came out in '09 but it's not an '09 album, I believe some of those Dilla beats were old already. I almost NEVER see this album mentioned on this site.

Pusha had one of the best albums of 2013, he wasn't the best rapper though he wasn't THAT nikka in 2013. Drake had the album, the features, the moments, he was the man, his album was a victory lap around the rap game. He wasn't just popular he had the quality and acclaim to match.

It's funny looking at the polls in the 90's and 80's the rappers winning were the popular rappers of the time and the young guys, the closer we get to the present y'all got rappers winning and shyt.

Youre right but it's obvious people here are looking less at popularity or who had the most buzz and hype. People are voting pusha because they feel like he dropped a better album and is a better rapper than drake.

I think there is a difference between the MVP of the year and the best rapper of the year and i know this thread kinda contradicts that. The MVP to me is the rapper who has the most buzz, most hype, most moments, album, features, etc just like youre saying. While the best rapper to me is just who is actually rapping the best and dropped the best project.

That's why these threads are confusing

 

[mobbinfms]

Theses polls are a joke.


Post#191 breaks down how much of a joke it is.

So should we be basing this purely on radio play? Album sales? Memes? Instagram followers? Catch phrases? Dances?

 

[mobbinfms]

you voted Pusha T because you felt you had no other choice

if you wanted (still want) Jay-Z, I always can add options...

what does it tell you though when nobody but you is even thinking of voting Jay-Z, maybe that lucky lefty dude

I'm flabbergasted that no one has asked you to add Jay yet.
It was a pretty big oversight and still no one has asked.

 

[mobbinfms]

You'd make a terrible lawyer.
Yeezus was trash yet he got a mention

Getting a mention doesn't mean anything. If people wanted to vote for Jay he'd be on the list.

 

[mobbinfms]

Action Bronson had the best project that year with Blue chips 2. Curren$y followed in second with New Jet City.

I couldn't even get through Blue Chips 2.
But if you want to vote for Action...tag @Inspect Her Deck and ask him to add Action.

 

[mobbinfms]

That's mostly because thread starter doesnt realize the retail album has nearly if not totally become Obsolete by this time period. Rap became singles based and mixtapes based.

Not true - any project can get you on the list.

 

[ISO]

So should we be basing this purely on radio play? Album sales? Memes? Instagram followers? Catch phrases? Dances?

 

[smokeurobinson]

So should we be basing this purely on radio play? Album sales? Memes? Instagram followers? Catch phrases? Dances?

Title should b changed to 'the best according to the coli'

 

[mobbinfms]

I don't think they are putting out inferior products.

I didn't say you did. You are missing the point. You seem to be arguing (correct me if I'm wrong) - that anyone who wasn't commercially successful cannot be considered as the best rapper of any given year. I'm arguing, what about the people who aren't impressed by the new jacks and think the old rappers are putting out the best product? Are we supposed to pick Drake just b/c he had songs that we didn't like played all over the radio?
Obviously, commercial success is not synonymous with quality music. I'm sure you agree with that.

How did Rae push the landscape or hit the culture in any way? What sound did Linx 2 usher in, what lyrical styles came out of it, what trends or slang did it start, what MC's or producers did it influence, what classic songs came out of it that the hip hop community as a whole embraces or song that just symbolize a movement or moment?

Name albums over the last decade that were similarly underground to Linx 2 but did all of these things.
You are setting up criteria that is going to minimize rappers who are underground.
Can't a rapper just have the best album anymore? Is it necessary that its pushed by the machine?

People weren't playing that shyt popularity matters its not the biggest factor but it matters.

Only Built 4 Cuban Linx… Pt. II was released on September 8, 2009 and was ranked the number one downloaded album available on iTunes for the first three days of its release.[37] It debuted at number 4 on the Billboard 200 and at number 2 on the Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums chart, the same positioning as the original Only Built 4 Cuban Linx..., while selling near 68,000 copies in its first week.[38] Only Built 4 Cuban Linx… Pt. II has sold 132,000 copies in the United States as of November 12, 2009, according to SoundScan.[39]

Obviously people were playing it.
Popularity matters much much more to you than it does to me.

I believe some of those Dilla beats were old already.

I would think so since he had been dead for three years at that point

Pusha had one of the best albums of 2013, he wasn't the best rapper though he wasn't THAT nikka in 2013.

Album was a big deal and long awaited in 2013. He didn't have a smash single or nothing like that...but I don't see why that disqualifies him as the best rapper.

It's funny looking at the polls in the 90's and 80's the rappers winning were the popular rappers of the time and the young guys,

There were no 40 year old rappers in the 80s and 90s breh
So this doesn't mean anything.
Hip hop is aging...this sort of internal conflict was inevitable.

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

Title should b changed to 'the best according to the coli'

no fukking shyt it's according to the coli you retarded mollusc

you think I'm posting it on the coli so I can get feedback from buzzfeed?

you really are the gift that keeps on giving...

 

[mobbinfms]

Title should b changed to 'the best according to the coli'

So you both take issue with someone voting for who they felt was the best rapper with the best album...obviously that's not important. So what is? Radio play? Album sales? Etc.
What should the criteria for best rapper be if albums and rapping aren't enough.

 

[smokeurobinson]

no fukking shyt it's according to the coli you retarded mollusc

I was waiting for the name calling.

Its the tell all that feelings were caught

What took u so long.

 

[smokeurobinson]

So you both take issue with someone voting for who they felt was the best rapper with the best album...obviously that's not important. So what is? Radio play? Album sales? Etc.
What should the criteria for best rapper be if albums and rapping aren't enough.

Ayo. Stop quoting /alerting me.

 

[mobbinfms]

Ayo. Stop quoting /alerting me.

No response huh?
This is the last alert from me then

 

[Inspect Her Deck]

I was waiting for the name calling.

Its the tell all that feelings were caught

What took u so long.

I'm just shocked someone can be this dumb. No feelings whatsoever. Just shock.