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I agree completely.

It's also a large reason why TheColi is such a terrible place to judge music. When I was a kid Wayne was the hands down GOAT. Here he's practically no one, even though he's the direct inspiration for all the biggest rappers in the game and fathered the current sound.

I've run into kids around the age of 12-16 who think NBA Youngboy is the 2nd coming of Pac and is their hands down GOAT. On TheColi he's lucky to get a 5 page thread.

Older heads are hard to impress and have much less of a pulse on the landscape of music and what will drive music forward. They get caught up in the time period that is most fond to them, generally their teenage to early adulthood years, which for a lot of these guys posting here was the late 90s.
Not just hard to impress…they don’t even do their homework. Even ten years ago this forum was full of people who said Wayne was overrated yet had never heard a single mixtape from him. They heard Carter III, singles and that’s it. A decade later they’re even more entrenched, listening to the same shyt over and over or only liking regressive/derivative new music.

So most people dismissing Alchemist haven’t been listening over the last decade plus. They didn’t hear Covert Coup, Russian Roulette, etc.

I’ve got this theory I call the big brother theory. Basically there’s a large group of people whose first real pipeline for music came from their brother. In my case, my older cousin would play Nas/Pac/Biggie/etc while we played Sega Genesis in his room. From childhood through HS, that music kinda dominated their taste, and their older sibling would keep feeding them shyt. That’s how I ended up getting in Nore later for instance.

Now I think we have a generation of people who are older and no longer have someone feeding them new shyt so they just regress into only listening to stuff from the past. In the Coli’s case the Kendrick/Cole/Drake 2010-2012 wave was the last “new” music they fukked with.
 

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getting to listen now.
see what Benny cooked up

Back 2x nice. Stovie really dope om hooks man. its just something about his hooks.
also he really needs something new. we never gonna hear that 1 mil project he dropped

Super Plug. my god that beat. Benny was going off on it. I could really see Pusha on that beat man as feature

Benny addressing the foolish Con vs Benny battles fans be on.
 
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Not just hard to impress…they don’t even do their homework. Even ten years ago this forum was full of people who said Wayne was overrated yet had never heard a single mixtape from him. They heard Carter III, singles and that’s it. A decade later they’re even more entrenched, listening to the same shyt over and over or only liking regressive/derivative new music.

So most people dismissing Alchemist haven’t been listening over the last decade plus. They didn’t hear Covert Coup, Russian Roulette, etc.

I’ve got this theory I call the big brother theory. Basically there’s a large group of people whose first real pipeline for music came from their brother. In my case, my older cousin would play Nas/Pac/Biggie/etc while we played Sega Genesis in his room. From childhood through HS, that music kinda dominated their taste, and their older sibling would keep feeding them shyt. That’s how I ended up getting in Nore later for instance.

Now I think we have a generation of people who are older and no longer have someone feeding them new shyt so they just regress into only listening to stuff from the past. In the Coli’s case the Kendrick/Cole/Drake 2010-2012 wave was the last “new” music they fukked with.
Some people just don't rock with new music - it doesn't have to be any more complex than that.

I mean, I'm 29 for God's sake. Most of the music I listen to was barely even my brother's era and definitely not my era. It's just a matter of taste.
 

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Theres so little replay value on this its hard to comprehend.

The raps are great...but so what?
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Of course there’s no replay value to you. This isn’t your lane. :lolbron:
Your musical palate is more Mumbai Playboy Club
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Grisleda is more Tamil Tigers
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Ali vs Tyson was great.

my god Uncle Ben. yeah, we need another Stabbed and Shot like yesterday. those 2 have such great chemistry
i hope Spesh gets even more fans off that guest verse. it's like he turns up even more on Benny joints
 

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:patrice: beginning of beat on Thowys Revenge reminded me of Thundercat Interstellar
u can hear it at later points in the song too

 
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Yeah, hov made a lot of "pay the bills" songs and a lot of these guys that idolize him aren't willing to do that.



Because all these guys do is idolize Jay and call him the goat, piggyback his style but don't fully commit to doing what made him who he is today.

Benny said like twice on this album he feels like 99 Hov or 97 Hov and yet isn't doing shyt that 99 Hov was doing. Where's his Hawaiian Sophies :russ:
40 year old balding nikka with mutton chops in the climate of melody rap isn’t making anything bytches will play.

Trash talking point from Napoleon…
 

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Mr. Chow Hall needed 1 more verse man.

but this was a great listen, Benny projects is consistent and dope to me.
the bars always there, u know thats what u get from Benny. the beats crazy man.

1 thing, i'd love to hear Benny work with Conductor solo wise.
hell give V Don a call also.
not that im tired of Daringer, Al, Harry. its that he only do songs with Conductor on WSG projects.
and worked with V Don on Dark Lo joints.
 

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Ali vs Tyson was great.

my god Uncle Ben. yeah, we need another Stabbed and Shot like yesterday. those 2 have such great chemistry
i hope Spesh gets even more fans off that guest verse. it's like he turns up even more on Benny joints
Stabbed and shot is what put me on to Benny and spesh

that shyt is a personal classic to me

we need this shyt
 
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