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Never thought I'd say this about an athlete, but Simmons is stealing money at this point.

If he pivots towards what I think he will, it's going to be hiding under the umbrella of mental illness. And once that force field goes up, the team and the league won't want the public backlash if they go after him.


When has a mental illness "force field" ever protected an NBA player or any other major sports league player?
 

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i dont blame him

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When has a mental illness "force field" ever protected an NBA player or any other major sports league player?
Last season 2020-21, when Kyrie missed multiple games and was away from the team, he alluded to family issues and mental health being the reasons. Nets organization gave him the space he needed until he rejoined the team.

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Brandon Marshall
Richard Sherman.

Look up the DV incidents of both players. Sherman's incident was caught on ring video, and discussed here.

Incidents were not brought up again, even in modern sports climate with tough anti DV stances, and both men continued to work either for the league or broadcasting partners.

The force field protected them.
 
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Do what you feel Ben :yeshrug:

These muthafukkas have shown you they have no love. The fans, the league, nobody... fukk them, get paid :ufdup:
 
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He’s not getting 20 million back so this is just clown behavior that will hurt him and other players in the future
 

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Last season 2020-21, when Kyrie missed multiple games and was away from the team, he alluded to family issues and mental health being the reasons. Nets organization gave him the space he needed until he rejoined the team.

The discussion was claiming mental illness. Kyrie has never once claimed to be mentally ill. Because he's a superstar and a huge draw he gets a pass for whatever he wants. He missed 10x as many games for his anti-vax stance and he never used "mental illness" as his reason for missing those games, and yet the Nets still basically let him do what he wanted because they felt they needed him.

Kyrie is the perfect counterexample to your argument - he proves that you don't have to claim mental illness to get away with shyt.



=====
Brandon Marshall
Richard Sherman.

Look up the DV incidents of both players. Sherman's incident was caught on ring video, and discussed here.

Incidents were not brought up again, even in modern sports climate with tough anti DV stances, and both men continued to work either for the league or broadcasting partners.

The force field protected them.

Brandon Marshall didn't claim any mental issues until he was later in his playing career long after the DV incident, at which point he'd already been arrested numerous times without repercussions. The DV incident (for which charges were soon dropped) was the least of his shyt and he got out of NFL repercussions time and time against without needing to claim mental illness. The Me Too era didn't start until Marshall had already retired.

Sherman's shyt is brought up constantly, he's fukking crazy. But he only just pled guilty last month, and in his public statements about the incident he said he needed to take better care of his mental and emotional health but he did practically everything he could to not claim a mental illness diagnosis. What happened with him could have happened at any point in league history and so long as the wife was forgiving and the player remorseful then the player was going to be able to keep working in some capacity.
 

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The discussion was claiming mental illness. Kyrie has never once claimed to be mentally ill. Because he's a superstar and a huge draw he gets a pass for whatever he wants. He missed 10x as many games for his anti-vax stance and he never used "mental illness" as his reason for missing those games, and yet the Nets still basically let him do what he wanted because they felt they needed him.

Kyrie is the perfect counterexample to your argument - he proves that you don't have to claim mental illness to get away with shyt.





Brandon Marshall didn't claim any mental issues until he was later in his playing career long after the DV incident, at which point he'd already been arrested numerous times without repercussions. The DV incident (for which charges were soon dropped) was the least of his shyt and he got out of NFL repercussions time and time against without needing to claim mental illness. The Me Too era didn't start until Marshall had already retired.

Sherman's shyt is brought up constantly, he's fukking crazy. But he only just pled guilty last month, and in his public statements about the incident he said he needed to take better care of his mental and emotional health but he did practically everything he could to not claim a mental illness diagnosis. What happened with him could have happened at any point in league history and so long as the wife was forgiving and the player remorseful then the player was going to be able to keep working in some capacity.
You're working overtime to avoid conceding that I answered your question. All Pro level juelzing.
 

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You're working overtime to avoid conceding that I answered your question. All Pro level juelzing.


You said that claiming mental illness had been a "force field" to protect athletes, and when I asked for examples you listed two guys who have never claimed mental illness and a 3rd who never needed it as a force field and was treated exactly the same before he claimed it as he was after.

Claiming that Kyrie is protected because he claims mental illness is simply false. Kyrie has never claimed mental illness, he is protected because he's a star athlete and he gets away with whatever excuse he wants, he's never had to claim mental illness to get that protection.


Look what happened to Royce White when he claimed mental illness - he wasn't a star and thus when he proved he wasn't of benefit to the team, he got bushed. Exact same will be true of Ben Simmons - if teams think he will benefit them they'll give him a leash, if they don't think he'll benefit them then they'll bush him. That will remain true no matter what he claims.
 
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