Ben Baller TV show: Pusha T' spends $20K on Mercedes Benz key; WSHH Founda spnds $70k

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quality diamonds and gold aren't gonna lose their value... in 15 years 200+ grams of 14k gold and 6 carats of VVS diamonds will be worth more than he paid for it.

No it won't cuz he got jerked from the jump by paying a 100-400% premium to have some glorified metalworkers turn it into a Mercedes logo chain

You will never see your money back :stopitslime:
 

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most people can't even afford VVS stones, much less 6 carats of anything.. why would they be selling them on craigslist?

most folks aren't even working with high quality jewelry to begin with..so them paying to have it melted down isn't an viable option.

Cash 4 Gold scammed a shytload of folks out of money... folks were only getting 1/3 of what their shyt was actually worth. perfect scam to juice folks thinking they caked up off the rise in gold

quality diamonds and gold aren't gonna lose their value... in 15 years 200+ grams of 14k gold and 6 carats of VVS diamonds will be worth more than he paid for it.

*Is Megatron*
*Bolds one part of a post and argues against it like a retard*
*Ignores the non-bolded parts that ether my whole fokkin argument*

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Pusha got ripped a lil. He has exactly $7352.64 worth of gold and about $6000 worth of diamonds in todays market. So they charged him over 6 g's for labor? Nice piece but I don't believe Pusha gave him 20 for that, it was for TV, it had to be.
 

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So you really believe the description that they're giving? You don't think they might lie to make it look good for show? :snoop:

"6 carats of VVS stones, and 220 grams of 14k gold will retain it's value..regardless of however much was paid for the customization."

yo b how dumb are you... I just schooled you saying that a rap chain has no resale value because no one's gonna buy it and breaking it down to diamonds and gold would be retarded because you paid like double to have it in jewelry form

:merchant: in what imaginary situation is a chain a good investment... answer that :snoop:

dudes be living in fantasy worlds out here... :laff:

who are we supposed to believe... an internet poster, who didn't know who ben baller was until this week.... or the actual description of said chain, provided by the jeweler himself?

220 grams of 14k gold is worth 7+ racks by itself, 6 carats of VVS stones are worth more than the gold.


if you haven't paid attention, i've been talking about the gold and diamonds... not this " rap chain market" you keep talking about.


according to you

-they lied about the price of the chain for TV
-Pusha T doesn't have that kind of money
- Pusha lies about the lifestyle he lives
-the stones are cloudy and not VVS clarity
-the gold isn't worth more than 5k
- gold and diamonds can never be melted down/reset
- gold and diamonds will not gain/retain their value over time, because it is formed/set into a chain/pendant

:salute: you right breh.
 

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who are we supposed to believe... an internet poster, who didn't know who ben baller was until this week.... or the actual description of said chain, provided by the jeweler himself?

220 grams of 14k gold is worth 7+ racks by itself, 6 carats of VVS stones are worth more than the gold.


if you haven't paid attention, i've been talking about the gold and diamonds... not this " rap chain market" you keep talking about.


according to you

-they lied about the price of the chain for TV
-Pusha T doesn't have that kind of money
- Pusha lies about the lifestyle he lives
-the stones are cloudy and not VVS clarity
-the gold isn't worth more than 5k
- gold and diamonds can never be melted down/reset
- gold and diamonds will not gain/retain their value over time, because it is formed/set into a chain/pendant

:salute: you right breh.

I didn't appraise the chain myself I'm just intelligent enough to know dudes be frontin about their jewels all the time and a quoting a higher price makes both Pusha and the jeweler look good so why wouldn't they do it for YouTube :comeon:

:laff: back to gold and diamonds huh? I ethered that argument already b
you're paying insane markup for the mold and assembly work why would anyone want to resell their chain as raw gold and stones :stopitslime:

:stopitslime::stopitslime::stopitslime: i've made this point like 100 times now and you've never responded to it cuz it ethers your whole argument

-they lied about the price of the chain for TV
it's on Youtube not TV and that is likely
-Pusha T doesn't have that kind of money
that's a fact
- Pusha lies about the lifestyle he lives
yes he does, look at his lyrics
-the stones are cloudy and not VVS clarity
I never said that but you should expect exaggerations to make it good for viewers... what you think they'll talk about how they chose some lesser grade diamonds or synthetic stones because it's a sensible choice or will they front like they're ballin?
-the gold isn't worth more than 5k
the point is that you're overpaying for gold if you're buying jewelry as a substitute for gold
- gold and diamonds can never be melted down/reset
I said that YOU said this, which is true
- gold and diamonds will not gain/retain their value over time, because it is formed/set into a chain/pendant
Not my point dumbass I'm saying a pendant has no value on the resale market and that if you convert back into raw goods you're still taking a huge loss because you bought it as a chain which is a marked up product

And lol at this fakkot always talking about how I didn't know who the jeweler was... newsflash fakkot he's not a celebrity who would know about him :comeon:
 

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- gold and diamonds will not gain/retain their value over time, because it is formed/set into a chain/pendant
Not my point dumbass I'm saying a pendant has no value on the resale market and that if you convert back into raw goods you're still taking a huge loss because you bought it as a chain which is a marked up product
- gold and diamonds will not gain/retain their value over time, because it is formed/set into a chain/pendant
Not my point dumbass I'm saying a pendant has no value on the resale market and that if you convert back into raw goods you're still taking a huge loss because you bought it as a chain which is a marked up product
- gold and diamonds will not gain/retain their value over time, because it is formed/set into a chain/pendant
Not my point dumbass I'm saying a pendant has no value on the resale market and that if you convert back into raw goods you're still taking a huge loss because you bought it as a chain which is a marked up product
:skip: lol at this fakkot still arguing back after he's been ethered
 
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So you really believe the description that they're giving? You don't think they might lie to make it look good for show? :snoop:

"6 carats of VVS stones, and 220 grams of 14k gold will retain it's value..regardless of however much was paid for the customization."

yo b how dumb are you... I just schooled you saying that a rap chain has no resale value because no one's gonna buy it and breaking it down to diamonds and gold would be retarded because you paid like double to have it in jewelry form

:merchant: in what imaginary situation is a chain a good investment... answer that :snoop:

dudes be living in fantasy worlds out here... :laff:

its so hard to fathom that a rap nikka would blow 20k on a chain, or that a nikka who been in the game 10 years + would be smart enough to know what he's buying. .

i don't know who is arguing that the chain is an investment. the point is the nikka got what he paid for. god damn, nikkas want it to be untrue so bad. yes mufukka, he blew 20 racks on some metal and rocks, we know, bad choice.
 

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This tall Israeli poster is such a clown... rappers gold? :heh:

Talk about real or fake shyt man stop it. Acting like every purchase has to be an investment Slick Rick rocked more gold than most rappers, what u didn't see were his real estate investments. He made 1 album before going to jail @ his prime and he still conformable today. U can floss and still be smart with money. Lame ass cac
 

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Lets not pretend that most of the rappers flossing heavily 10 years ago with no careers now aren't in debt.

Stop trying to reason past the fact that the vast majority of these guys aren't making sensible financial decisions. :mjpls:
 

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its so hard to fathom that a rap nikka would blow 20k on a chain, or that a nikka who been in the game 10 years + would be smart enough to know what he's buying. .

i don't know who is arguing that the chain is an investment. the point is the nikka got what he paid for. god damn, nikkas want it to be untrue so bad. yes mufukka, he blew 20 racks on some metal and rocks, we know, bad choice.

:smugfavre: cmon son
they might not have boosted the figure by much but i'm sure they did
it's like lying about your height... it's just standard to do it to some people... or like lying about how much you get for a beat or a verse

you're not arguing that the chain is an investment but Megatron is or was :yeshrug:
 

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This tall Israeli poster is such a clown... rappers gold? :heh:

Talk about real or fake shyt man stop it. Acting like every purchase has to be an investment Slick Rick rocked more gold than most rappers, what u didn't see were his real estate investments. He made 1 album before going to jail @ his prime and he still conformable today. U can floss and still be smart with money. Lame ass cac

:ld: I don't care about people buying chains they can do that all they want

but if people are gonna believe that they're smart investments then I gotta set them straight :stopitslime:
 

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I can agree with Tall Isreali...his point is that you're never really going to make a profit off of buying and chain and then melting it down to resell it because basically you're not just buying the gold, but the mold as well along with labor, AND you have to pay to melt it down, because unless you die and the chain is a collector's item you'll be hard pressed to find a buyer.

When you melt the gold/extract the diamonds or whatever(The only way that you'll be able to make use of your , money will still have to come out of your pocket to do, along with the fact that you don't have the benefit of applying the same markup that the jeweler did when you made the chain, so you'll have to sell that materials for less (A lot less it seems) than what you bought the chain for, which is a loss....
 

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:snoop: at some people in here.

Calling buying an overpriced, big rap chain an investment :laff:

I wouldn't even wear that shyt for free
 

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I can agree with Tall Isreali...his point is that you're never really going to make a profit off of buying and chain and then melting it down to resell it because basically you're not just buying the gold, but the mold as well along with labor, AND you have to pay to melt it down, because unless you die and the chain is a collector's item you'll be hard pressed to find a buyer.

When you melt the gold/extract the diamonds or whatever(The only way that you'll be able to make use of your , money will still have to come out of your pocket to do, along with the fact that you don't have the benefit of applying the same markup that the jeweler did when you made the chain, so you'll have to sell that materials for less (A lot less it seems) than what you bought the chain for, which is a loss....

And even if you did melt the gold/extract the diamonds who are you gonna sell it to? Is there a thriving market for used diamonds? The whole industry relies heavily on certified ratings and authenticity and all that... are you gonna go through all the trouble of making sure your raw goods are credible and then find a buyer for them? Are you gonna make a 200 gram gold bar? Who would want that?

I don't think a random person would take your gold and diamonds off your hands... maybe a jeweler would but I'm sure they get sweet bulk deals on their supply... you'd have to drop your price mad low and even then they might not want it

I was looking at a jeweler's site a while ago... they do most of the chains for Dipset... and they have one-of-one Dipset chains made for AraabMuzik and others for sale, probably because they sold them back to the jeweler after they got tired of them

So in real life no one's ever gonna melt down a chain... that's too much hassle for very little money back... you might actually get more money back if you sell your chain back to the jeweler... but they won't give you a good price because they know you have no other potential buyers

I'm tryna think of a way you could flip a chain for the price you paid or at least close to it but there is none :ehh:
 
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