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I just created a theme song for the content I’m working on in less than 10 minutes.

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The Coli stays putting me on to things that are ultimately going to make me ri¢h.
Yep. Instead of ppl complaining, they need to see the potential in this.
 

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Will be back to listen to the tracks. But @IIVI I have questions for you and your wife since you both seem musically inclined.

Do you think there's fundamental differences in the spirit of what's made via AI vs human? Like as a person there's still something to be gained in being a creative. Is there still value in that. Is there differences in how the predictability of the structure is and where people take Jazz like detours in real life?

Just let me know what y'all think..I've always wanted to make music and sometimes just what it does for you as a person making those things in your head. Coming up with ideas... Like the prompts play a huge part in all this.. Also I don't doubt it's already been in use in the industry because it's an easy way to generate songs and hence income if you are doing it commercially
 

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Will be back to listen to the tracks. But @IIVI I have questions for you and your wife since you both seem musically inclined.

Do you think there's fundamental differences in the spirit of what's made via AI vs human? Like as a person there's still something to be gained in being a creative. Is there still value in that. Is there differences in how the predictability of the structure is and where people take Jazz like detours in real life?

Just let me know what y'all think..I've always wanted to make music and sometimes just what it does for you as a person making those things in your head. Coming up with ideas... Like the prompts play a huge part in all this.. Also I don't doubt it's already been in use in the industry because it's an easy way to generate songs and hence income if you are doing it commercially
Music isn't about satisfying other people's rules regarding your creative process. That's gatekeeping. Nobody listening cares. They only care about the final product and if it sounds good. Don't get caught up in that other stuff. If it sounds good and you're enjoying it, then you're doing it right.

Otherwise it'll get blown up into something stupid:
Ok, so you didn't sound design and make your own sounds?
Why didn't you make your own VST?
Why didn't you program your own DAW?
Why didn't you program your own computer to make your music?
^^ you do all the above because people keep asking "Well how come you didn't..." and you'll find out 50 years later after you've learned how to do all this other stuff you still have no music you've made.

Too much gatekeeping by other people and the person who wants to make music trying to satisfy all the noise.

What really matters are two things: do you enjoy making music and do you enjoy what you've made? The only thing that matters about the actual process is if you're enjoying it. Period. Like every other hobby. It's just a fukking hobby.

Like the common saying around producers: don't make music for other producers, make music for your potential fans - they can't tell the difference and don't care about anything else except dancing/vibing.

In other words: use A.I as much as you want if you enjoy it and can get the output you want. Don't listen to other people saying otherwise - there's a high chance it's some stupid 14-year-old trying to gatekeep and talking loud on the internet.
 
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Music isn't about satisfying other people's rules regarding your creative process. That's gatekeeping. Nobody listening cares. They only care about the final product and if it sounds good. Don't get caught up in that other stuff. If it sounds good and you're enjoying it, then you're doing it right.

Otherwise it'll get blown up into something stupid:
Ok, so you didn't sound design and make your own sounds?
Why didn't you make your own VST?
Why didn't you program your own DAW?
Why didn't you program your own computer to make your music?
^^ you do all the above because people keep asking "Well how come you didn't..." and you'll find out 50 years later after you've learned how to do all this other stuff you still have no music you've made.

Too much gatekeeping by other people and the person who wants to make music trying to satisfy all the noise.

What really matters are two things: do you enjoy making music and do you enjoy what you've made? The only thing that matters about the actual process is if you're enjoying it. Period. Like every other hobby. It's just a fukking hobby.

Like the common saying around producers: don't make music for other producers, make music for your potential fans - they can't tell the difference and don't care about anything else except dancing/vibing.

In other words: use A.I as much as you want if you enjoy it and can get the output you want. Don't listen to other people saying otherwise.

The part of me that would truly embrace this is the part of me that has ideas and sounds in my head and I don't know how to mix, master etc. and this helps me collaboratively to make stuff. Like I don't have to be so technically sound. It can augment me and I can just have output .

But have they gotten it right in construction and ideas? Auto tune and pitch correction was cool but It lacked humanity. Some of the ideas in these songs aren't as nuanced or in depth because what it's being asked is basic. What is your woman's opinions on these songs? For someone who has a nose for structure. What does she think
 

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The part of me that would truly embrace this is the part of me that has ideas and sounds in my head and I don't know how to mix, master etc. and this helps me collaboratively to make stuff. Like I don't have to be so technically sound. It can augment me and I can just have output .

But have they gotten it right in construction and ideas? Auto tune and pitch correction was cool but It lacked humanity. Some of the ideas in these songs aren't as nuanced or in depth because what it's being asked is basic. What is your woman's opinions on these songs? For someone who has a nose for structure. What does she think
Basically the same thing like what other people say: some of it sounds like it's legit a human-made the song, other times you can tell it's A.I. The granularity in vocals is what's giving it away.

The parts that sound off is really up to the person making the music to go in there and correct it and it's completely doable if you know what you're doing. In the future I see this thing really needing far less correction, but there are already techniques to correct it post: Melodyne, Izotope suite, Pro Tools, Stem extractors, etc.

In terms of song structure, music theory - there ain't no rules. If it sounds right, it sounds right. Song arrangement is a creative choice. Look at some of the recent songs that hit recently: they're like two intros that repeat twice.
 
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Basically the same thing like what other people say: some of it sounds like it's legit a human-made the song, other times you can tell it's A.I. The granularity in vocals is what's giving it away.

The parts that sound off is really up to the person making the music to go in there and correct it and it's completely doable if you know what you're doing. In the future I see this thing really needing far less correction, but there are already techniques to correct it post: Melodyne, Izotope suite, Pro Tools, Stem extractors, etc.

In terms of song structure, music theory - there ain't no rules. If it sounds right, it sounds right. Song arrangement is a creative choice. Look at some of the recent songs that hit recently: they're like two intros that repeat twice.

Yeah structure and the creativity people have in doing something different and it being good is interesting to me. Like you wonder the new possibilities people have, how they work structurally in a sensible way. And music is mechanical so there is a way it goes or maybe has variations the way jazz does.

I appreciate your responses. What does your wife think about it..I ask only because you said she has a way to predict what the future chords and sounds are..does she know how the AI is calculating it or freestyling it? Is there a way it's structuring it's thing?
 
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