BBC: "We're (lesbians) are being forced into sex by trans women"

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This is what happens when you go along with trans women are women rhetoric instead of telling them that they are their own unique category. Men can't tell these rainbow and Blue check women nothing so we just gonna have to sit back and watch them struggle :yeshrug:

You take the testosterone of a man, and the emotional nature of a woman and you've created something very dangerous.
 

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Breh, fukk off. It is like they have agents stationed in every corner trying to control the narrative.

If someone feels as though their rights are not being covered by a broad group, they have every right to step away and pursue things on their own.

Lowkey, this is what worries me about people adopting this People of Colour terminology. The reality of the matter is we have different needs and not all of us get along.

Much of the alphabet gang does NOT fukk with Ts as a point of clarification. Their ability/right to exist, sure- but the rest, eh. (Not a member barely an ally would def count as a terf if I claimed feminism) but that in particular is a hella divisive topic. Worth noting much of these issues come from mtf (almost overwhelmingly white at that) and not the other way around.
 

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Because the "predators that exist within" in this context is based upon small scale accounts, and the evidence used was provided by an anti-trans organization. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what's going on here. Or do you seem to think this is all demonstrative of non-partisan rhetoric, where this is an actual sexual boutade of trans people all going out raping lesbians?

:usure:

There's no narrative to spin, when this lesbian agitprop is spinning itself in circles from the onset.

This is a copout and you know it.

What you're asking for is that any wrong committed or alleged should be swept under the rug for fear that it might put the group at large under pressure.

That is giving them preferential treatment.
 

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Several people got in touch with me to say there was a "huge problem" for lesbians, who were being pressured to "accept the idea that a penis can be a female sex organ".

Again, the reason we've got Chappelle making four standups mostly about this is we're gaslit of this doesn't make a lick of sense to us.

I'm all for people living their lives, but, that quick, white people (yes, white people) have us redo'n the nature of biology on a political whim.
 

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Because the "predators that exist within" in this context is based upon small scale accounts, and the evidence used was provided by an anti-trans organization. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what's going on here. Or do you seem to think this is all demonstrative of non-partisan rhetoric, where this is an actual sexual boutade of trans people all going out raping lesbians?

:usure:

There's no narrative to spin, when this lesbian agitprop is spinning itself in circles from the onset.

This is a "eat the meat, spit out the bones situation.

You're right, but, it got to the point that, because "polite society" doesn't want to have a discusion about these issues, that want falls through the cracks are people like the OP article sources or the Dave Chappelle's of the world.

No, lesbians aren't at risk of transwomen raping them and this article does have dubious sources.

But, where and when exactly are people supposed to discuss their positions? Because if we stay the course on "it's none of your business, it doesn't effect you" we find ourselves where we are now?

This is the biggest issue with all this censorship talk to "combat disinformation." You counter bullshyt with fact--as you have--not try to quiet any discussion.

If Lesbians have issues with Transwomen, it should be discussed, but, with some fukking sense, observable data and rationale.
 

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Somehow the patriarchy will be blamed for this

As it should.

Because at the end of the day, no matter how much you wanna try to skirt around it...in the LBGTQ community, white males still dominate the space. All the entitlement and privilege of being born white and male doesn't all of a sudden evaporate just because you decide to change your gender.

I want everybody to be okay in life. I want people to be comfortable, ble to explore themselves, find peace, balance and beauty in their experience within this planet.

But don't tell me I'm putting someone's life at risk for asking when exactly does white male privilege expire for trans women. Kaitlyn Jenner squeezed every little last bit of white male privilege out of life before they decided to be a woman. Am I not supposed to take that into account when relevant just to protect your paradigm? Because this scenario is exactly why things being off limits to talk about or ask needs to be addressed.

The same white male driven 'patriarchy' that everyone rails against any other time is still very involved in the trans movement.
 
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Propaganda. Got it. It's an issue that may swing the VA Governors race because Loudoun County hid it because they created the policy that allowed it to happen.





Loudon somehow became the most important county in America. Home to the most obnoxious conservative and liberal parents in the country.
 
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This is a copout and you know it.

What you're asking for is that any wrong committed or alleged should be swept under the rug for fear that it might put the group at large under pressure.

That is giving them preferential treatment.
You got yourself in too deep with this discussion and realized it was too late to go back, which explains your complete lack in saying anything of worth and definitive.

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Sexual assault of any kind, against any group, should not be swept under the rug. Don't try to redirect this argument because you're not willing to walk back your initial point of ignorance. If trans people are raping lesbians on a grand scale, than they should be held accountable, and it should be an issue that is addressed. The point here is, they're not, well, certainly not by any actual credible documentation in that article. The evidence presented here is a drop in the ocean sample size that was carefully lifted by a source that is explicitly anti-trans.

If those specific trans people are guilty of sexual misconduct, they should be held to the decree of law as anyone else should. But that doesn't mean just because those individuals are culpable that it's reflective of trans people, as a collective.

It's funny how this board is quick to disarm any accusations of sexual assault whenever it involves a woman accusing a man, but they're quick to believe second-hand accounts of lesbians accusing trans people of rape, all with an agenda front and center. I wonder if lesbians came out and started saying [self-proclaimed] heterosexual men were raping them if y'all would be quick to have the same reactions......

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What’s the difference between lesbian and Gay


notice how that was a thing then they wanted to have BIPOC :mjlol:
 

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You got yourself in too deep with this discussion and realized it was too late to go back, which explains your complete lack in saying anything of worth and definitive.

:unimpressed:

Sexual assault of any kind, against any group, should not be swept under the rug. Don't try to redirect this argument because you're not willing to walk back your initial point of ignorance. If trans people are raping lesbians on a grand scale, than they should be held accountable, and it should be an issue that is addressed. The point here is, they're not, well, certainly not by any actual credible documentation in that article. The evidence presented here is a drop in the ocean sample size that was carefully lifted by a source that is explicitly anti-trans.

If those specific trans people are guilty of sexual misconduct, they should be held to the decree of law as anyone else should. But that doesn't mean just because those individuals are culpable that it's reflective of trans people, as a collective.

It's funny how this board is quick to disarm any accusations of sexual assault whenever it involves a woman accusing a man, but they're quick to believe second-hand accounts of lesbians accusing trans people of rape, all with an agenda front and center. I wonder if lesbians came out and started saying self-proclaimed heterosexual men were raping them if y'all would be quick to have the same reactions......

:hubie:

fukk are blabbering about? :what:

It is not a matter that should be swept under the rug, but that is what happens when people like you call for the discussion to be closed down and dismiss those who comment on it as transphobic.

I don't think anyone here is foolish to believe that every trans person is a rapist. We do, however, acknowledge how the environment that's been cultivated allows those without scruples to act with impunity.
 
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