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BBC: "We're (lesbians) are being forced into sex by trans women"
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Ozymandeas
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Calling a lesbian transphobic because she won’t have sex with a transwoman who is biologically a man is WILD
Don't know if these nikkas are mentally ill or next level scammers
HARLEM AL
Your broad loves me.....
Which is grade A fukkery. Kind of how white women did me too…
This shyt is getting better and better
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shyt. She better call Dave.
This is insane
Ive seen dudes turn into women and call men transphobic for not sleeping with them
I’m guessing they are in the minority and not representative of trans as a whole
Ive seen dudes turn into women and call men transphobic for not sleeping with them
I’m guessing they are in the minority and not representative of trans as a whole
Jaylen Tatum
Superstar
How you gonna let somebody pressure you into sex 
Peruvian Connect
All Star
sohh men transform into women just to have sex with women? make it make sense.
Chrome2279
All Star
Trans are fukking the evil… it keeps getting proven the last few weeks…. Mentally ill
Piff Perkins
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No one is being forced to do shyt. You are under no obligation to fukk or date anyone you don’t want to, and it’s very clear trans people are having an extremely hard time finding men and women who want to date them.
All of this hinges on people accepting realities that aren’t true. They want you to feel bad for being straight (or gay) and not wanting to date them, at which point they call you a bigot. The hope being that the sheer guilt and anguish of being labeled a bigot causes others to fall in line. But…it’s not working, and it never will work. Why would a lesbian date a trans woman? I’d imagine some could do it but overall? It makes no sense.
All of this hinges on people accepting realities that aren’t true. They want you to feel bad for being straight (or gay) and not wanting to date them, at which point they call you a bigot. The hope being that the sheer guilt and anguish of being labeled a bigot causes others to fall in line. But…it’s not working, and it never will work. Why would a lesbian date a trans woman? I’d imagine some could do it but overall? It makes no sense.
Biscayne
Ocean air
I was thinking the samething when I read it. Her girl was dying for some dikk.her girl was trying to get some meat by any means
One of the lesbian women I spoke to, 24-year-old Amy*, told me she experienced verbal abuse from her own girlfriend, a bisexual woman who wanted them to have a threesome with a trans woman.
When Amy explained her reasons for not wanting to, her girlfriend became angry.
this is untrue.
that is a lesbian porn star. she did not write the article. she is mentioned while discussing the origin of a term "cotton ceiling" which the straight trans use to describe lesbians denying them sexual access.
the other screenshot posted cuts of the beginning which gave context to why Cade was mentioned.
"The term "cotton ceiling" is sometimes used when discussing these issues, but it is controversial.
It stems from "glass ceiling", which refers to an invisible barrier preventing women from climbing to the top of the career ladder. Cotton is a reference to women's underwear, with the phrase intended to represent the difficulty some trans women feel they face when seeking relationships or sex. "Breaking the cotton ceiling" means being able to have sex with a woman.
The term is first thought to have been used in 2012 by a trans porn actress going by the name of Drew DeVeaux. She no longer works in the industry and I have not been able to contact her. However, I spoke to a former porn performer and director who believes she inspired DeVeaux to use it.
Lily Cade, who worked in the industry for 10 years, went by the label "Porn Valley's Gold Star Lesbian" because she only ever had sex with other women.
Lily was asked to do a scene with DeVeaux in Toronto and initially agreed after looking at photos of her. But she backed out in advance after discovering online that she was a trans woman.
"My sex drive was oriented towards women," said Lily. "I couldn't see past the fact that what I was interacting with was male genitalia altered by surgery and not the reproductive organ of a female ape, and I just couldn't get past that."
Feeling guilty, Lily sent DeVeaux an email in which she apologised for being "the worst girl in the whole history of the world".
"I felt really bad about the way that I felt about this, but I did feel that way. I made the choice to say something about it and to back out," she said.
Lily said she was criticised on Twitter at the time, but only among "very fringe queer porno people". However, the concept of the cotton ceiling came to wider attention when it was used in the title of a workshop by Planned Parenthood Toronto.
The title of the workshop was: "Overcoming the Cotton Ceiling: Breaking Down Sexual Barriers for Queer Trans Women", and the description explained how participants would "work together to identify barriers, strategize ways to overcome them, and build community".
It was led by a trans writer and artist who later went to work for Stonewall (the organisation has asked the BBC not to name her because of safeguarding concerns).
"I thought it was kind of gross," said Lily. "The language is gross because you are evoking the metaphor of the glass ceiling, which is about women being oppressed. So saying that if someone doesn't want to have sex with you that person is oppressing you."
The trans woman who led the workshop declined to speak to the BBC, but Planned Parenthood Toronto stood by its decision to hold the workshop.
In a statement sent to the BBC, executive director Sarah Hobbs said the workshop "was never intended to advocate or promote overcoming any individual woman's objections to sexual activity". Instead, she said the workshop explored "the ways in which ideologies of transphobia and transmisogyny impact sexual desire".
It stems from "glass ceiling", which refers to an invisible barrier preventing women from climbing to the top of the career ladder. Cotton is a reference to women's underwear, with the phrase intended to represent the difficulty some trans women feel they face when seeking relationships or sex. "Breaking the cotton ceiling" means being able to have sex with a woman.
The term is first thought to have been used in 2012 by a trans porn actress going by the name of Drew DeVeaux. She no longer works in the industry and I have not been able to contact her. However, I spoke to a former porn performer and director who believes she inspired DeVeaux to use it.
Lily Cade, who worked in the industry for 10 years, went by the label "Porn Valley's Gold Star Lesbian" because she only ever had sex with other women.
Lily was asked to do a scene with DeVeaux in Toronto and initially agreed after looking at photos of her. But she backed out in advance after discovering online that she was a trans woman.
"My sex drive was oriented towards women," said Lily. "I couldn't see past the fact that what I was interacting with was male genitalia altered by surgery and not the reproductive organ of a female ape, and I just couldn't get past that."
Feeling guilty, Lily sent DeVeaux an email in which she apologised for being "the worst girl in the whole history of the world".
"I felt really bad about the way that I felt about this, but I did feel that way. I made the choice to say something about it and to back out," she said.
Lily said she was criticised on Twitter at the time, but only among "very fringe queer porno people". However, the concept of the cotton ceiling came to wider attention when it was used in the title of a workshop by Planned Parenthood Toronto.
The title of the workshop was: "Overcoming the Cotton Ceiling: Breaking Down Sexual Barriers for Queer Trans Women", and the description explained how participants would "work together to identify barriers, strategize ways to overcome them, and build community".
It was led by a trans writer and artist who later went to work for Stonewall (the organisation has asked the BBC not to name her because of safeguarding concerns).
"I thought it was kind of gross," said Lily. "The language is gross because you are evoking the metaphor of the glass ceiling, which is about women being oppressed. So saying that if someone doesn't want to have sex with you that person is oppressing you."
The trans woman who led the workshop declined to speak to the BBC, but Planned Parenthood Toronto stood by its decision to hold the workshop.
In a statement sent to the BBC, executive director Sarah Hobbs said the workshop "was never intended to advocate or promote overcoming any individual woman's objections to sexual activity". Instead, she said the workshop explored "the ways in which ideologies of transphobia and transmisogyny impact sexual desire".
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