Basketball experts...is Kawhi Leonard a top 5 player in the NBA?

[The_Third_Man]

Interesting.
3-1 lead in the Finals. Curry put the team on his back?
3-1 lead in the WCF. Durant put the team on his back?
3-1 lead in the WCF. Westbrook put the team on his back?

2014 NBA Finals MVP apparently is not putting the team on your back tho

and that's why they've been gettin shytted on by everybody
Did the MVP runner up, back to back defensive player of the year and All-NBA first teamer get the same criticism that Curry, Durant, and Westbrook when they "didn't put their teams on their back" got? Not even close

Getting blamed when your team (especially if you're the favorite) lose usually comes with being a superstar. So far Leonard is only getting the praise but none of the blame.

@ mentionin Horford twice, I never watched Hawks playoff games cause I knew they were pretenders but he musta really been some shyt.

My bad I meant Harden/Howard.

 

[humble Hermit]

Ah so now MVP voting matters? But I thought Kobe was top 5 DOA?

Don't know where you're getting at.

 

[Versa]

1. LeBron (out of respect for his longevity and incredibly playoff run this past season)
2. KD
3. Curry
4. Westbrook
5. PG13
6. Leonard
7. CP3

Are the true superstars of the league IMO. There's a gap and then everyone else. Those 7 are the best overall basketball players from top to bottom with the least flaws. When healthy I would say Blake and Davis are #8 and #9. Harden is fringe but terrible defensively and relies too much on refs to bail him out. Cousins is inefficient AF and a bad defender.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

Hell no. Stiff ass nikka carry a team without goats. Comparing him to AD like flabby obi and parker ain't better then any player AD ever played wit. If he was on that Spurs team wit AD he wouldn't instantly be the 2nd option

 

[Jplaya2023]

anyone who thinks leonard is better than PG is lacking in basketball accumen.

put leonard on the pacers and their not making the ECFs to even face lebron and the heat.

George can carry a team while Leonard cannot at this point in his career.

 

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anyone who thinks leonard is better than PG is lacking in basketball accumen.

put leonard on the pacers and their not making the ECFs to even face lebron and the heat.

George can carry a team while Leonard cannot at this point in his career.

Leonard carried his team to a title and Finals MVP award.

Paul George is carrying child support paychecks to a stripper.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Leonard carried his team to a title and Finals MVP award.

Paul George is carrying child support paychecks to a stripper.

lol leonard did not carry the spurs no where, 2014 was an all around team effort for the spurs. Leonard was the 3ed leading scorer in 2014 averaging a sizzling 14 PPG a game. lol @ him carrying them anywhere

 

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lol leonard did not carry the spurs no where, 2014 was an all around team effort for the spurs. Leonard was the 3ed leading scorer in 2014 averaging a sizzling 14 PPG a game. lol @ him carrying them anywhere

Like the casual fan, you think scoring is everything.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Like the casual fan, you think scoring is everything.

3rd leading scored (tied with manu) he wasn't "carrying" anything. He was apart of the fray. Meaning he could score 15 and the spurs would win. Yes he's a great defender but superstars can still get you 25 while playing great defense as well. Not to mention he wasn't setting up teammates or running the offense.

 

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3rd leading scored (tied with manu) he wasn't "carrying" anything. He was apart of the fray. Meaning he could score 15 and the spurs would win. Yes he's a great defender but superstars can still get you 25 while playing great defense as well. Not to mention he wasn't setting up teammates or running the offense.

How much longer has your nose gotten telling these lies?

 

[The_Third_Man]

Leonard carried his team to a title and Finals MVP award.

Paul George is carrying child support paychecks to a stripper.

carried?

2nd in his team in scoring
3rd in his team in rebounds
6th in his team assists
2nd in his team in steals
7th in his team in usg%

while Lebron (who was guarded by Leonard)
dropped 28 ppg on 57 fg% and 52 3pt% with more assists, rebounds, and steals

 

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carried?

2nd in his team in scoring
3rd in his team in rebounds
6th in his team assists
2nd in his team in steals
7th in his team in usg%

while Lebron (who was guarded by Leonard)
dropped 28 ppg on 57 fg% and 52 3pt% with more assists, rebounds, and steals

Clutch shooting and defense and all around great play.



:umadduncan:

 

[humble Hermit]

anyone who thinks leonard is better than PG is lacking in basketball accumen.

put leonard on the pacers and their not making the ECFs to even face lebron and the heat.

George can carry a team while Leonard cannot at this point in his career.

And you know this how?

It's easy to play the ol put so and so on another team and watch.

They are not the same players

Efficiency
Health
mentality

all different.

Accolades as well.

When it's all said and done, One guy is gearing up to be a sure pick Hall of famer
We've seen what happened when they played one another too

 

[Jplaya2023]

How much longer has your nose gotten telling these lies?

what lies?

2013-14 San Antonio Spurs

look at playoffs

 

[Jplaya2023]

And you know this how?

It's easy to play the ol put so and so on another team and watch.

They are not the same players

Efficiency
Health
mentality

all different.

Accolades as well.

When it's all said and done, One guy is gearing up to be a sure pick Hall of famer
We've seen what happened when they played on another too

lol PG didn't have the fortune to go and play in that spurs system. Skillset wise PG is superior than Leonard. Leonard is a better spot up shooter, but PG is better at creating his own shot, shots for others, and running the O.