Killigraphy
Banned
3stacks is deeper, Jada has more quotables.
Jada takes it, his bars are so fun to listen to. DXL comes to mind...
Jada takes it, his bars are so fun to listen to. DXL comes to mind...
Now sittin' in the bathtub listening to the Isley
Brothers and others outside my door want to despise me
Reminds me that everyone ain't cool, the world is jealous
Never could understand when my mama use to tell us
"Don't take your food outside around your friends
Unless you got enough to feed the neighborhood"
The play has just began, follow me now
Act 1 Scene 2 the date 1/1/96 the time I don't know
Mood disturbed, Dre goes on to say they trying to get over
Like them nikkas with the blinker on, I got my thinker on
So I'm like 'Word, however you want to act is fine'
That is real as fishing rods
I might be kissing God but I'm still in the battle
So if you got cattle you best be fasting
For 7 days and 7 nights we everlasting
20 years young on a quest to get my class ring
Just for them fhite wolks, I will if it's the last thing
I do
Uh, who said good folks is not supposed to die?
The same nikka that said nikkas is not supposed to cry
United States giving out milk and cheese to pacify
I'm sure they got a cure for AIDS but yet it's classified
You wonder why I spit the truth and not to make no dough
To make a difference 'fore this motherfukker up and blow
In pieces
I could think of many reasons
Only when shyt is going bad, you want to holla Jesus
fukk a pledge allegiance, they got my knuckles bleedin'
From crawling
Got these nikkas thinkin' they really ballin'
When they isn't
Don't take my word, there's nikkas off in prison
That will tell you
That's locked up for long time and won't sell you no flex
So congregation, will you turn your text
To the book of OutKast, chapter two, verse one
The first one that feel me, jump up and make a joyful noise
You's OutKast-ed, meaning, now you have a choice, like that
Now Suzy Skrew had a partner named Sasha Thumper
I remember her number like the summer
When her and Suzy yeah they threw a slumber
Party, but you can not call it that cause it was slummer
Well, it was more like spend the night
Three in the morning yawning, dancing under street lights
We chilling like a villain and a nikka feeling right
In the middle of the ghetto on the curb, but in spite
All of the bullshyt we on our back staring at the stars above
Talking bout what we gonna be when we grow up
I said, "What you wanna be?" She said, "Alive"
It made me think for a minute, then looked in her eyes
I coulda died, time went on, I got grown
Rhyme got strong, mind got blown
I came back home, to find lil' Sasha was gone
Her mamma said she with a nikka that be treating her wrong
I kept on singing my song and hoping at a show
That I would one day see her standing in the front row
But two weeks later she got found in the back of a school
With a needle in her arm, baby two months due
Sasha Thumper
Never
Has ev-ery member in one crew been so diverse Tryin
To outdo the last verse that I birthed that, is my curse Your
Knight in rhyming armor sentimentally slay all grand dragons Grab
The sharpest no 2. then I'm stabbin Somebody
Let me a hold a no 2. pencil cause they testin Somebody
Let me a hold a no 2. pencil cause they testin
Hey, what's your name?
André 3000, the year to fear is already here
Must look beyond, sounds from the center of the sun
Reason for a gun, only one
Strong believer in self-preservation
Aahhhhh, OOF!
In the State of confused
City of forgotten fate, County of the blues
Street address Generation X Avenue
But Generation Y high to the point
That a joint won't anoint a new one
Walking in my silver boots, need a shoehorn and some church socks
What if I told you he manipulate clocks?
Stops, time rewinds, see what he finds
Then re-arrange and change things that's on your mind
Would you swallow like fine wine or peanut butter?
Would you holler that I'm lying and ask another?
Or pay no heed and run for cover?
Basically, you're saying, you weren't looking for a genuine discussion by making this thread, because you don't buy into any notion that rap has any intrinsic value beyond punchlines, even despite the intention by some artists to tell stories about self-reflection, social/political-awareness, the human condition etc. And you thought what better way to get your point across than to make a comparison that shyts on Andre's style of rapping in favor of bars that you find more palatable.breh....really?
If that's the type of shyt you value, fine
But to sit here and act like it's this profound, super deep, labirythian, DaVinci Code type thing is bullshyt
cats pull the same type of justifications for Andre as they do for Lupe, they're so conditioned to believe these guys are spitting some next level, secret code you have to decipher bars that they look for and come up with meanings on their own that really aren't there
and I made the comparison because I wanted to, I really don't know why nikkas all aggy and up in their feelings when at the end of the day this is a messare board.
People make comparisons all the time between players that don't play the same position so why is it a problem here
Lotus y'all on some "how dare you question the status quo " nonsense.
Even when cats on the internet began to push the narrative that Andre was top 5 I never agreed with it, but apparently a lot of people fell for the groupthink and went along
I struggle to comprehend how someone can believe that shyt like this is "labyrinthian, DaVinci Code, secret code -- but there's no meaning there" rapping. This is a muh'fukka from the deep South, chewing the cud about life. I mean can profoundness get any more organic than this?Uh, who said good folks is not supposed to die?
The same nikka that said nikkas is not supposed to cry
United States giving out milk and cheese to pacify
I'm sure they got a cure for AIDS but yet it's classified
You wonder why I spit the truth and not to make no dough
To make a difference 'fore this motherfukker up and blow
In pieces
I could think of many reasons
Only when shyt is going bad, you want to holla Jesus
fukk a pledge allegiance, they got my knuckles bleedin'
From crawling
Got these nikkas thinkin' they really ballin'
When they isn't
Don't take my word, there's nikkas off in prison
That will tell you
That's locked up for long time and won't sell you no flex
So congregation, will you turn your text
To the book of OutKast, chapter two, verse one
The first one that feel me, jump up and make a joyful noise
You's OutKast-ed, meaning, now you have a choice, like that
Somebody list their favorite Andre line, then
I been watching OK since the very beginning. Lyrically they were both weak on Southern Playalistic
They got better, but I don't ever remember Dre saying something that made me perk up
Kiss on the other hand often makes me listen like "duke is nice!"
The thought process... Now-
Now as an Outkast, I was born, wasn't warned of the harm
That would come to meet me like Met Life, but yet life
Done sent me through a lot of ups and downs like it ain't nothin'
Like elevators but I ain't the one that's pushin' the buttons
I got off at the 13th floor, when they told me that it wasn't one
They said it skipped from 12 to 14
Still smoking, still drinking
No, I'm sittin' on the Lincoln 4 AM thinking
That in reality the world is like a ball full of players
We trapped off in this maze with walls made of layers
And only prayer is the tightest game that you can have
The devil's takin' a swing, that might explain the broken glass
But my crystal ball see the pistol fall to the wayside
Nobody would die in cops and robbers when we used to play, right?
Huh, the only thing we feared was Williams, Wayne
Never thought about hittin' licks or slangin' 'caine
Did not think I'd be the one to give in to abortion
Label me "murderer" because my ass is scorchin'
Hot from the Glock that sits under my seat
Yeah, it's real fukked up that my folks come to get me
And it's like dat...yeah, uh-huh, yeah, and it's like dem
I could give you 20 more just like this. Comparing 3000 to someone like Nas is a more apt comparison.
Jada is good, but he is way too one dimensional to fukk with a multi dimensional guy like 3000.
muhfukka YOU were the one implying that his shyt had "layers"I struggle to comprehend how someone can believe that shyt like this is "labyrinthian, DaVinci Code, secret code -- but there's no meaning there" rapping. This is a muh'fukka from the deep South, chewing the cud about life. I mean can profoundness get any more organic than this?
Did I say anything that insinuated "labyrinthian, DaVinci Code" or that was over folks' heads like you accused me of? I just simply said Jadakiss is a punchline rapper, and the layers to Andre's shyt are "introspection, storytelling, creativity/originality, diversity". I don't know how any sane person could argue against that. If you prefer Jada's shyt, that's cool, ain't nobody trippin' over that, but you can't act like there isn't more depth to what Andre is rapping about.muhfukka YOU were the one implying that his shyt had "layers"
An example, yes, that showcases those layers. Or are we going to pretend that Andre is some "And y'all scared I can tell. That I'mma get Bucks like Milwaukee, cause like Sam, I ca' sell" type rapper?I thought you were posting that as an example
What is the purpose of you comparing him to a rapper who isn't even in his lane then, while disregarding that his shyt has more to it than just mainly punchlines? I do find it hilarious how you believe folks use the same "justifications" for Andre as they do Lupe, when nobody in here is doing some Rap Genius.com stretch-referencing of popular culture, theism, Obscurantism, horticulture, public transit, candy bar, rhyming-words-for-the-sake-of, smart-dumb breakdown like they'd do for this:As far as you putting words in my mouth about intrinsic value I never said it was the be all end all, that's just you being lame and setting up a straw man.
But I'll address it
In my feelings? Save that shyt for the next man. Even despite your attempts to shyt on 'Dre with this thread, the poll says folks aren't buying what you're trying to sell.You're the one getting all up in your feelings because people don't value the various aspects of emceeing in the exact same weighted percentage as you
I'm not trying to sell anything, I gave opinionDid I say anything that insinuated "labyrinthian, DaVinci Code" or that was over folks' heads like you accused me of? I just simply said Jadakiss is a punchline rapper, and the layers to Andre's shyt are "introspection, storytelling, creativity/originality, diversity". I don't know how any sane person could argue against that. If you prefer Jada's shyt, that's cool, ain't nobody trippin' over that, but you can't act like there isn't more depth to what Andre is rapping about.
An example, yes, that showcases those layers. Or are we going to pretend that Andre is some "And y'all scared I can tell. That I'mma get Bucks like Milwaukee, cause like Sam, I ca' sell" type rapper?
What is the purpose of you comparing him to a rapper who isn't even in his lane then, while disregarding that his shyt has more to it than just mainly punchlines? I do find it hilarious how you believe folks use the same "justifications" for Andre as they do Lupe, when nobody in here is doing some Rap Genius.com stretch-referencing of popular culture, theism, Obscurantism, horticulture, public transit, candy bar, rhyming-words-for-the-sake-of, smart-dumb breakdown like they'd do for this:
"Can't be eyes closed when you side scroll you not the first person the first person from your first curse until your first cursive and your curse words is in the curve version it occurs virgin is the word version that refers perfect to the first person. In the third verse, it was really me in the third person but prefers the first one that's me."
In my feelings? Save that shyt for the next man. Even despite your attempts to shyt on 'Dre with this thread, the poll says folks aren't buying what you're trying to sell.
So I kept it completely respectful in this thread, as I do when I post back-and-forth with you in the Coliseum, and you come at me with this shyt?It was a simple question you autistic fukktard
WHICH ONE DO YOU LIKE BETTER?
What insult did I sling at you? The only insult(s) that I'm aware of is you just calling me an "autistic fukktard", and yet you have the nerve to accuse me of being an emotional bytch? How did I insult your intelligence - you asked me what the layers were to Andre's shyt, I responded accordingly, and then you went off on a tangent accusing me and others of "being conditioned to believe these guys are spitting some next level, secret code you have to decipher bars that they look for and come up with meanings on their own that really aren't there", I'd say that's insulting my intelligence, is it not?y'all cats started slinging insults out the gate like some emotional bytches, insulting people's intelligence and whatnot.
And you say I'm the one that's being emotional?You coulda just stayed your bytch ass out of the thread