#BandCamp...What Happens In Vegas, Stays In Vegas: Adrien Broner vs Shawn Porter Fight Thread
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Overrated by whom?
Most people underrate Adrien Broner.
He's not over ranked by any Boxing media outlet and all y'all on the Internet constantly talk down on him.
Very stupid to have this fight in Vegas instead of somewhere in the Midwest or in NY or NJ
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Where would you put him????
Shawn Porter is NOT a C fighter
He's a B fighter breh.
He's not an average Welterweight like a Diego Chaves is. He's on a higher level than that.
I think this too and I think that's why his fights after that have been pretty dull. Nothing he's done in the ring has been spectacular since then.
Peeple looking got him to take the Brook approach are bugging tho. He's not the defensive fighter like Brook is which leads to him getting unnecessarily tagged sometimes. He took some shots from Molina that shouldn't have caught expecially considering that Molina is virtually a one handed fighter.
Don't be surprised if Show Time gets a knockdown.
I think he's very average bruh. I didn't start thinking this until after the Gavin Rees fight.
AB = Another Bertoif porter wins, will Floyd avenge his lil bro lost like he did with maidana
Lmao!AB = Another Berto
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Kenny didn't deny it, in fact, it sounds like he's confirming what Broner said.K. Porter: Adrien Broner Hired Investigators To Follow Me
Posted by: Rick Reeno on 6/20/2015 .
By Rick Reeno
MGM Grand, Las Vegas - Kenny Porter, father and trainer of Shawn Porter (25-1-1, 16KOs), is convinced that former three division world champion Adrien Broner (30-1,22KOs) hired investigators to follow him around.
During Thursday's final press conference, a war of words erupted between Kenny and Broner.
The tense situation began when Broner started describing Kenny's girlfriend, details about his home, specific details about his two cars, and other personal information.
"I started feeling really good about myself when he started talking about my women, the way I dress, my nice car, and my jeep. He sent an investigation team out on me, because we don't hang around those people. We don't go to Floyd Mayweather's gym, so he literally sent someone out to follow me to see what I was doing," Kenny told BoxingScene.com.
Broner even revealed Kenny's bank of choice - which Kenny says was half-true. He named the wrong bank, but revealed the correct Las Vegas neighborhood where Kenny does his banking.
"He got the bank wrong, but he got the right area. Floyd banks with me so I know Floyd told him that. Floyd has gotten out of his line to shake my hand at the bank," Kenny said.
Broner vs. Porter will headline the next edition of Premier Boxing Champions (PBC on NBC) on Saturday night.
http://www.boxingscene.com/k-porter-adrien-broner-hired-investigators-follow-me--92557
Kenny Porter is crazy
Finally rolling out of bed after witnessing black excellence last night when kimbo koed that sloppy cac, Pineapple Express on deck, my work is done, bills is paid, no stress, boxing overload tonight..... blessed
And now the fight to stay awake for me......
And now the fight to stay awake for me......
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BREAKING BREAD ON ADRIEN BRONER VS. SHAWN PORTER: "GREAT FIGHT...A 50/50 FIGHT"
By Stephen "Breadman" Edwards | June 20, 2015
This is a great fight. You got one kid in Broner that's a little more naturally talented with God-given gifts. You got another kid in Porter who is probably a little more disciplined and a little more of a hard worker. As a fighter, he's a little more bigger and stronger, but I think Broner is the sharper, quicker fighter. I also think Broner has better reflexes as far as like defensive reflexes, like anticipating punches and stuff like that. Shawn is fast, but he's really...it's not too hard to hit him. He kind of tips off when he's about to do something. He bends down and squats and then jumps up and pops up, so you can kind of anticipate what Shawn is about to do. But it works for him because he's very strong, he's very fast, and very, very determined and he has an outstanding amateur pedigree. But if you look at the Kell Brook fight, Kell Brook didn't really do much to Shawn except for wait for him to pop up and hit him with right hands. He didn't try to match Shawn's workrate or energy level or anything. He just waiting for Shawn to step in with his attack and he would hit him with a hard one-two. He did that the whole fight.
I think the fight is a 50/50 fight, but because Shawn has to come down to 144, I think that Team Broner did a great job at the negotiating table. I personally don't have a problem with a catchweight fight. Everybody makes a big deal about it, but Shawn didn't have to take it. Shawn has options, man. He's with Al Haymon, he's been on PBC, and he's had some big paydays. He didn't have to take that fight. It's your team's job to get you advantages at the negotiating table, so I don't have a problem with Team Broner wanting Shawn to come down in weight. It's up to Shawn and his team to say, "No, I'm not going down in weight." Team Broner did a better job in my opinion than Team Porter because they brought him down in weight. See, people don't understand that weigh-ins are very stressful for a fighter. That's all a fighter cares about when he gets to the hotel is, where is the scale and when is the weigh-ins. They are very, very antsy. They are in a bad mood. Most of them can't even drink anything because they are drying out 24 hours before the weigh-in. So now, Shawn Porter is stressed for the weigh-in. So Team Broner, in my opinion, just did a hell of a job.
So factoring everything in, man, with Floyd helping Broner out, I believe that Broner is going to fight a very disciplined fight because I think that Floyd is going to instill that in Broner; to fight disciplined and don't try to fight with pride and mix it up and learn to tie him up and just be smart. Floyd is the master at that. He don't let the crowd or anybody get in the way of the game plan, which is very important when you're fighting a dude like Porter, who is probably a little bit more stronger and physical. I think that with Broner's sharpness and with Shawn having that predictable rhythm where he jumps in and he's real easy to hit with a right hand, and with him sucking down them 3 extra pounds...Shawn has a lot of scar tissue and when you losing weight like that and you sucking down to make weight, it's easier to get cut because your skin has less fluid in it. So factoring all those things in, I think Broner is going to edge him. So I'm going to say Broner by a majority decision. I just think his right hand is going to be a little too accurate and he's going to be a little too sharp. The crowd may not like how he fights, but I think he's going to box and tie Shawn up and he's going to counter punch Shawn and he's going to cut him and I think he's going to win a decision.
http://fighthype.com/news/article20895.html
By Stephen "Breadman" Edwards | June 20, 2015
This is a great fight. You got one kid in Broner that's a little more naturally talented with God-given gifts. You got another kid in Porter who is probably a little more disciplined and a little more of a hard worker. As a fighter, he's a little more bigger and stronger, but I think Broner is the sharper, quicker fighter. I also think Broner has better reflexes as far as like defensive reflexes, like anticipating punches and stuff like that. Shawn is fast, but he's really...it's not too hard to hit him. He kind of tips off when he's about to do something. He bends down and squats and then jumps up and pops up, so you can kind of anticipate what Shawn is about to do. But it works for him because he's very strong, he's very fast, and very, very determined and he has an outstanding amateur pedigree. But if you look at the Kell Brook fight, Kell Brook didn't really do much to Shawn except for wait for him to pop up and hit him with right hands. He didn't try to match Shawn's workrate or energy level or anything. He just waiting for Shawn to step in with his attack and he would hit him with a hard one-two. He did that the whole fight.
I think the fight is a 50/50 fight, but because Shawn has to come down to 144, I think that Team Broner did a great job at the negotiating table. I personally don't have a problem with a catchweight fight. Everybody makes a big deal about it, but Shawn didn't have to take it. Shawn has options, man. He's with Al Haymon, he's been on PBC, and he's had some big paydays. He didn't have to take that fight. It's your team's job to get you advantages at the negotiating table, so I don't have a problem with Team Broner wanting Shawn to come down in weight. It's up to Shawn and his team to say, "No, I'm not going down in weight." Team Broner did a better job in my opinion than Team Porter because they brought him down in weight. See, people don't understand that weigh-ins are very stressful for a fighter. That's all a fighter cares about when he gets to the hotel is, where is the scale and when is the weigh-ins. They are very, very antsy. They are in a bad mood. Most of them can't even drink anything because they are drying out 24 hours before the weigh-in. So now, Shawn Porter is stressed for the weigh-in. So Team Broner, in my opinion, just did a hell of a job.
So factoring everything in, man, with Floyd helping Broner out, I believe that Broner is going to fight a very disciplined fight because I think that Floyd is going to instill that in Broner; to fight disciplined and don't try to fight with pride and mix it up and learn to tie him up and just be smart. Floyd is the master at that. He don't let the crowd or anybody get in the way of the game plan, which is very important when you're fighting a dude like Porter, who is probably a little bit more stronger and physical. I think that with Broner's sharpness and with Shawn having that predictable rhythm where he jumps in and he's real easy to hit with a right hand, and with him sucking down them 3 extra pounds...Shawn has a lot of scar tissue and when you losing weight like that and you sucking down to make weight, it's easier to get cut because your skin has less fluid in it. So factoring all those things in, I think Broner is going to edge him. So I'm going to say Broner by a majority decision. I just think his right hand is going to be a little too accurate and he's going to be a little too sharp. The crowd may not like how he fights, but I think he's going to box and tie Shawn up and he's going to counter punch Shawn and he's going to cut him and I think he's going to win a decision.
http://fighthype.com/news/article20895.html
Broner vs. Porter: BoxingScene.com Staff Predictions
Posted by: Jake Donovan on 6/20/2015 .
By Jake Donovan
In what many believe to be the most competitive matchup (on paper) offered since the inception of Premier Boxing Champions earlier this year, former titlists Adrien Broner and Shawn Porter collide at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada (Saturday, NBC, 8:30 p.m. ET).
The bout is being contested at a catchweight of 144 lbs., met by both fighters during Friday's weigh-in.
The speculation was that the weight in place was designed to weaken Porter (25-1-1, 16KOs), who hasn't weighed that light since a 2011 win over Anges Adjaho. Not only did he make weight, but the fighting pride of Akron, Ohio seemed comfortable at the scale.
Broner, on the other hand, looked as if he hadn't ingested food or drink in the hours leading up to the weigh-in. The former three-division champ came in under the limit, but was bone-dry and not at all convincing that it was an easy task to satisfy the terms of the contract.
Porter—a former amateur standout before turning pro in 2008—initially gained fame as a chief sparring partner for Manny Pacquiao leading up to the Filipino's historic win over then-welterweight titlist Miguel Cotto in Nov. '09.
The sessions helped Porter get his name in headlines, but he's carved out a respectable career for himself in the process. He rose to welterweight prominence in a career-best 12-round win over Devon Alexander in Dec. '13. The welterweight-title winning effort was followed up by a 4th round stoppage of Paul Malignaggi last April, his lone successful title defense before succumbing to Kell Brook in a battle of unbeaten welterweights last August.
Porter has since rebounded with a 5th round knockout of late replacement Erick Bone this past March, a bout that served as the very first under PBC's developing series on Spike TV.
Broner appeared in the very first PBC telecast on any network, opening up its inaugural installment of PBC on NBC with a 12-round win over John Molina Jr. in March. The win was the third straight for the brash former three-division titlist from Cincinnati.
His lone career loss also came in a title-conceding effort, dropping a humiliating 12-round decision to Marcos Maidana in Dec. '13. The upset win helped propel Maidana into a pair of lucrative paydays with pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr.
There has been serious talk of Saturday's winner landing such a coveted assignment, or at least joining a short list of potential candidates.
For now, both fighters need to worry about what awaits the other on fight night before eyeing a career-defining fight and payday.
Who will prevail in Las Vegas? Read on to see how the staff at BoxingScene.com believes the action will go down.
BOXINGSCENE.COM STAFF PREDICTIONS:ADRIEN BRONER vs. SHAWN PORTER
Ryan Burton (Porter SD): The catchweight clearly gives Broner an advantage but Porter wins a close decision to throw his name in the Mayweather sweepstakes.
Jake Donovan (Porter Dec): Broner's only real advantage here was (attempting to) get Porter down to an uncomfortable weight. That plan miserably backfired; so too will the decision to take this fight in the first place.
Michael Gibbons (Maj. Draw): Porter outworks Broner, Vegas judges outwork Porter.
Peter Lim (Porter Dec): Size trumps savvy in this fight. Broner's punching power, while destructive at 130 and 135, was significantly diminished at 140 and above. At welterweight, Broner was mauled by Marcos Maidana and struggled against Paulie Malignaggi. Maidana is a heavy-handed slugger, Malignaggi a slick stylist, and Porter is a middle-of-the-road hybrid of the two. Naturally bigger and stronger even at the 143-pound catchweight, Porter will simply walk Broner down with harder punches, forcing the smaller-framed man to fight on survival mode by the middle rounds. Porter wins a comfortable decision in the 117-111 to 116-112 range at the end of the night.
Ryan Maquiñana (Porter Dec.): I think Porter learned his lesson from the loss to Kell Brook and I predict that he won't be as drained by the catchweight as expected. Plus, Porter isn't the stationary target that Broner enjoyed in John Molina Jr. I foresee a tactical but entertaining scrap.
Takahiro Onaga (Broner UD): I think the weight limit takes the fight out of Porter, who’s tough but not going to look good here.
Cliff Rold (Broner Dec): If you've finished puberty, it's hard to find Broner amusing but that doesn't mean he can't fight. That he can, and is bringing another former fellow Welterweight titlist in at 144, is as stupid a catchweight provision as we've seen yet. It will be a factor.
Victor Salazar (Broner Dec): Team Porter says the weight won’t have any effect on its fighter. But I think it will. Porter might want to start fast but if he doesn’t catch Broner early, Broner will win by decision which I think will happen.
Reynaldo Sanchez (Porter UD): Broner has the obligation to put his performances in the ring, at the same level of his mouth out of the ring. We are still waiting for the promises great piece in each one of his fights. Porter has no power, but he is a real welterweight, and Broner not win by KO since 2013. If the catchweight didn’t affect Porter, we believe that Broner will have another long night.
Alexey Sukachev (Porter MD): I feel Broner—with all his skills—is a bit overrated and not fully grown into a welterweight to oppose a natural light middleweight in Porter. Both have comparable boxing skills but Porter will expose Broner's subtle mental weaknesses to outwork him in closing rounds and to get an edge.
Posted by: Jake Donovan on 6/20/2015 .
By Jake Donovan
In what many believe to be the most competitive matchup (on paper) offered since the inception of Premier Boxing Champions earlier this year, former titlists Adrien Broner and Shawn Porter collide at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada (Saturday, NBC, 8:30 p.m. ET).
The bout is being contested at a catchweight of 144 lbs., met by both fighters during Friday's weigh-in.
The speculation was that the weight in place was designed to weaken Porter (25-1-1, 16KOs), who hasn't weighed that light since a 2011 win over Anges Adjaho. Not only did he make weight, but the fighting pride of Akron, Ohio seemed comfortable at the scale.
Broner, on the other hand, looked as if he hadn't ingested food or drink in the hours leading up to the weigh-in. The former three-division champ came in under the limit, but was bone-dry and not at all convincing that it was an easy task to satisfy the terms of the contract.
Porter—a former amateur standout before turning pro in 2008—initially gained fame as a chief sparring partner for Manny Pacquiao leading up to the Filipino's historic win over then-welterweight titlist Miguel Cotto in Nov. '09.
The sessions helped Porter get his name in headlines, but he's carved out a respectable career for himself in the process. He rose to welterweight prominence in a career-best 12-round win over Devon Alexander in Dec. '13. The welterweight-title winning effort was followed up by a 4th round stoppage of Paul Malignaggi last April, his lone successful title defense before succumbing to Kell Brook in a battle of unbeaten welterweights last August.
Porter has since rebounded with a 5th round knockout of late replacement Erick Bone this past March, a bout that served as the very first under PBC's developing series on Spike TV.
Broner appeared in the very first PBC telecast on any network, opening up its inaugural installment of PBC on NBC with a 12-round win over John Molina Jr. in March. The win was the third straight for the brash former three-division titlist from Cincinnati.
His lone career loss also came in a title-conceding effort, dropping a humiliating 12-round decision to Marcos Maidana in Dec. '13. The upset win helped propel Maidana into a pair of lucrative paydays with pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr.
There has been serious talk of Saturday's winner landing such a coveted assignment, or at least joining a short list of potential candidates.
For now, both fighters need to worry about what awaits the other on fight night before eyeing a career-defining fight and payday.
Who will prevail in Las Vegas? Read on to see how the staff at BoxingScene.com believes the action will go down.
BOXINGSCENE.COM STAFF PREDICTIONS:ADRIEN BRONER vs. SHAWN PORTER
Ryan Burton (Porter SD): The catchweight clearly gives Broner an advantage but Porter wins a close decision to throw his name in the Mayweather sweepstakes.
Jake Donovan (Porter Dec): Broner's only real advantage here was (attempting to) get Porter down to an uncomfortable weight. That plan miserably backfired; so too will the decision to take this fight in the first place.
Michael Gibbons (Maj. Draw): Porter outworks Broner, Vegas judges outwork Porter.
Peter Lim (Porter Dec): Size trumps savvy in this fight. Broner's punching power, while destructive at 130 and 135, was significantly diminished at 140 and above. At welterweight, Broner was mauled by Marcos Maidana and struggled against Paulie Malignaggi. Maidana is a heavy-handed slugger, Malignaggi a slick stylist, and Porter is a middle-of-the-road hybrid of the two. Naturally bigger and stronger even at the 143-pound catchweight, Porter will simply walk Broner down with harder punches, forcing the smaller-framed man to fight on survival mode by the middle rounds. Porter wins a comfortable decision in the 117-111 to 116-112 range at the end of the night.
Ryan Maquiñana (Porter Dec.): I think Porter learned his lesson from the loss to Kell Brook and I predict that he won't be as drained by the catchweight as expected. Plus, Porter isn't the stationary target that Broner enjoyed in John Molina Jr. I foresee a tactical but entertaining scrap.
Takahiro Onaga (Broner UD): I think the weight limit takes the fight out of Porter, who’s tough but not going to look good here.
Cliff Rold (Broner Dec): If you've finished puberty, it's hard to find Broner amusing but that doesn't mean he can't fight. That he can, and is bringing another former fellow Welterweight titlist in at 144, is as stupid a catchweight provision as we've seen yet. It will be a factor.
Victor Salazar (Broner Dec): Team Porter says the weight won’t have any effect on its fighter. But I think it will. Porter might want to start fast but if he doesn’t catch Broner early, Broner will win by decision which I think will happen.
Reynaldo Sanchez (Porter UD): Broner has the obligation to put his performances in the ring, at the same level of his mouth out of the ring. We are still waiting for the promises great piece in each one of his fights. Porter has no power, but he is a real welterweight, and Broner not win by KO since 2013. If the catchweight didn’t affect Porter, we believe that Broner will have another long night.
Alexey Sukachev (Porter MD): I feel Broner—with all his skills—is a bit overrated and not fully grown into a welterweight to oppose a natural light middleweight in Porter. Both have comparable boxing skills but Porter will expose Broner's subtle mental weaknesses to outwork him in closing rounds and to get an edge.