Ballers Wanna Ball, Rollers Wanna Roll, But We're Taking All--The Official 2017-2018 Lakers Thread

[Dwight Howard]

And Randle has not gotten better, he's just not starting

Do you understand the concept of not playing majority against starters?

I'm not overanylyzing anything against Randle. His switch to backup center has made a world of difference, thats really it.

Lol. He's improved in every statistical category and metric...yet he hasnt gotten better. Men lie, women lie, numbers dont. And again stop with the bench/starters argument. Its really dumb considering Randle usually closes games against starters and has already put up numbers against starters. You have zero data to support your argument.

 

[Dwight Howard]

I agree. We should keep our young guys and let them grow together.

Yea these dudes on here just short-sighted and cant admit when theyre wrong like the obvioisly are here.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Lol. He's improved in every statistical category and metric...yet he hasnt gotten better. Men lie, women lie, numbers dont. And again stop with the bench/starters argument. Its really dumb considerin Randle usually closes games against starters and has already put up numbers against starters. You have zero data to support your argument.

Here you go with his statistical analysis

Dude hasn't improved his game at all... Only thing that has changed is him coming off the bench and playing center off the bench

Also because he's playing for a check now. Dude hasn't improved bruh, no matter how many times you stare at the box score

You talk about the "eye test" (when nothing in the eye test shows his game has changed) then you wanna bring up his stats. Which one is it? Because as a starter, he's a team killer that fills stat sheets. Off the bench, he provides scoring in LIMITED minutes against backup talent

Bench is where he belongs

 

[Dwight Howard]

Here you go with his statistical analysis

Dude hasn't improved his game at all... Only thing that has changed is him coming off the bench and playing center off the bench

Also because he's playing for a check now. Dude hasn't improved bruh, no matter how many times you stare at the box score

You talk about the "eye test" (when nothing in the eye test shows his game has changed) then you wanna bring up his stats. Which one is it? Because as a starter, he's a team killer that fills stat sheets. Off the bench, he provides scoring in LIMITED minutes against backup talent

Bench is where he belongs

Youre wrong. He closes games against starters for a reason. And again you have zero data that backups your claims. The stats and eye test work in my favor. You are one of the few stubborn laker fans that refuse to acknowledge has become better on both sides of the ball. He was never been this good defensively and he has never finished as well as he has on offense. He won us the game last night along with kcp. He's clearly gotten better and if you disagree you really must not be watching like that.

 

["It Was Always Jerry"]

Yea these dudes on here just short-sighted and cant admit when theyre wrong like the obvioisly are here.

We can add key pieces as time goes on. Keep the young core and let them develop chemistry.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Youre wrong. He closes games against starters for a reason. And again you have zero data that backups your claims. The stats and eye test work in my favor. You are one of the few stubborn laker fans that refuse to acknowledge has become better on both sides of the ball. He was never this good defensively and he has never finished as well as he has on offense. He cleary gotten better. He's clearly gotten better and if you disagree you really must not be watching like that.

I don't disagree because he's coming off the bench usually against guys less talented than him

Nothing is wrong with that at all... But you acting like he's all-star material or he's most improved when really all he did was play less against good competition and played better against poorer competition

Nothing is wrong with that, just stop acting like he's miraculously developed when nothing has actually developed. He's the same guy in lesser situations.

My only real issue with him is his selfishness and IQ... Which usually leads to ball stoppages and turnovers mainly caused by him. That fukk up the flow of the team,..

Also that he can't shoot (which I think he can but doesn't). Other than that, I actually don't mind everything else he brings to the table... Never did

 

[Dwight Howard]

I don't disagree because he's coming off the bench usually against guys less talented than him

Nothing is wrong with that at all... But you acting like he's all-star material or he's most improved when really all he did was play less against good competition and played better against poorer competition

Nothing is wrong with that, just stop acting like he's miraculously developed when nothing has actually developed. He's the same guy in lesser situations.

My only real issue with him is his selfishness and IQ... Which usually leads to ball stoppages and turnovers mainly caused by him. That fukk up the flow of the team,..

Also that he can't shoot (which I think he can but doesn't). Other than that, I actually don't mind everything else he brings to the table... Never did

I never claimed dude was an all-star i simply claimed he imroved on both sides of the ball which he has. Defensively we from ad to really good. Thats improvement. He is literally the most impactful defender on the team and is good enough to generate efficient buckets. That alone warrants more than 20mins per game. Seems like Luke is starting to understand as he as plahed 32/28 mins his last few games.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

I never claimed dude was an all-star i simply claimed he imroved on both sides of the ball which he has. Defensively we from ad to really good. Thats improvement. He is literally the most impactful defender on the team and is good enough to generate efficient buckets. That alone warrants more than 20mins per game. Seems like Luke is starting to understand as he as plahed 32/28 mins his last few games.

And I'm saying his improvement has came because of the situations he is in

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

You've seen what happens when he gets 20+ minutes a game... There is a reason he isn't starting

If you know more than an NBA coaching staff then

 

[Dwight Howard]

And I'm saying his improvement has came because of the situations he is in

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

You've seen what happens when he gets 20+ minutes a game... There is a reason he isn't starting

If you know more than an NBA coaching staff then

finishing games is more important than starting, and Julius has been finishing games for a reason. To say any improvement that julius has is just due to his situation is disingenuous, lazy, and holds no weight.

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his improvement on defense has been well noted.

 

[Reid2Achieve]

I know this may be a knee-jerk reaction but I'm just about ready to trade Lopez for another C (Noel?), a shooter, or a 1st....he doesn't fit.

All he does is camp on the perimeter and chuck or do wild, slow drives. He's probably posted up less then 10 times all season. He just loafs around out there. I'm also disappointed in his lack of leadership.

Side note: opposing bigs have been murdering us this year. Even marginal players like Baynes, Cauley-Stein, Randolph, Len, etc.

 

[Chris Cool]

nance byke

 

[Colejeezy]

Broke Lopez

 

[ALonelyDad]

This team sucks

 

[CantStop]

Kwame Lopez having a breakdown on the bench

he had the face the entire time

 

[LastKING_BLU]

kcp is on fire