COLLINS IS A CAREER
16 & 8 PLAYER
ON 56/37/79 SPLITS...
PEAKING AT 22 & 10
ON 58/40/80 HIS 3RD SEASON.
HES ONLY 25 AND
A CHANGE OF SCENERY CAN HELP.
THE BULLS NEED A TRUE PF
AND VERTICAL SPACER.
"Ayo I want to put the Paws on em"...- The Chicago Bulls 2022-23 Season thread.
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COLLINS IS A CAREER
16 & 8 PLAYER
ON 56/37/79 SPLITS...
PEAKING AT 22 & 10
ON 58/40/80 HIS 3RD SEASON.
HES ONLY 25 AND
A CHANGE OF SCENERY CAN HELP.
THE BULLS NEED A TRUE PF
AND VERTICAL SPACER.
look at how many FGA it took him to average 22 points ..ain’t no way in hell Derozan / Vucc / Lavine allowing him to put up that many shots to get those numbers …why do you think once the Hawks got Murray his numbers have gone down so drastically ..unless you’re a bottom feeder he’ll never be a 20/10 guy again ..plus there’s the shytty defense .. you want to put him and Vucc together as our interior stoppers
COLLINS IS A CAREER
16 & 8 PLAYER
ON 56/37/79 SPLITS...
PEAKING AT 22 & 10
ON 58/40/80 HIS 3RD SEASON.
HES ONLY 25 AND
A CHANGE OF SCENERY CAN HELP.
THE BULLS NEED A TRUE PF
AND VERTICAL SPACER.
look at how many FGA it took him to average 22 points ..ain’t no way in hell Derozan / Vucc / Lavine allowing him to put up that many shots to get those numbers …why do you think once the Hawks got Murray his numbers have gone down so drastically ..unless you’re a bottom feeder he’ll never be a 20/10 guy again ..plus there’s the shytty defense .. you want to put him and Vucc together as our interior stoppers
HE DOESNT HAVE TO
BE A 20/10 GUY ON THIS TEAM.
HES ALREADY BEEN AN 18 & 7
GUY ON 12 ATTEMPTS
WITH 56/40/83 SPLITS...
MUCH BETTER THAN
ANYTHING CARUSO/WILLIAMS
GIVE YOU ON THEIR COMBINED
12 ATTEMPTS.
I think they need to either have a soft reset like Portland did or just blow the team up.
Try to get a similar return for DeMar like what Portland got for CJ. If they add a 1st in that deal, they potentially have would have 2 1sts to utilize in next year's draft (despite Orlando having theirs).
They also need to really evaluate and decide if Donovan is the right coach. The team looks like they don't respond to him. Offense looks like shyt and just not working with the main guys. I would move on.
I don't see them trading Pat. His defense is good and it will be elevated even more when this team has more plus defenders on the floor. His offense has been stunted tremendously tho, I need to see him under a different scheme and more at the 3 before I give up on him frfr
Try to get a similar return for DeMar like what Portland got for CJ. If they add a 1st in that deal, they potentially have would have 2 1sts to utilize in next year's draft (despite Orlando having theirs).
They also need to really evaluate and decide if Donovan is the right coach. The team looks like they don't respond to him. Offense looks like shyt and just not working with the main guys. I would move on.
I don't see them trading Pat. His defense is good and it will be elevated even more when this team has more plus defenders on the floor. His offense has been stunted tremendously tho, I need to see him under a different scheme and more at the 3 before I give up on him frfr
Caruso and Williams defend ..maybe you don’t value that side of the ball but winning teams do .. those empty slash marks start to get lower and lower as you have to keep hedging on Collins ability to produce when he’s not a featured weapon
HE DOESNT HAVE TO
BE A 20/10 GUY ON THIS TEAM.
HES ALREADY BEEN AN 18 & 7
GUY ON 12 ATTEMPTS
WITH 56/40/83 SPLITS...
MUCH BETTER THAN
ANYTHING CARUSO/WILLIAMS
GIVE YOU ON THEIR COMBINED
11 ATTEMPTS.
On this bulls team he’s not getting no damn 12 attempts nikka.. he can’t even get 12 attempts on his current team while playing 32 minutes lol let’s get real here .. Vucc averages 13 shots per game the next closest person is 9 … so you must think Demar and Lavine are going to give up shots for some damn John Collins when we already see that didn’t work with Dejonte Murray/Trae Young? Mind you those nikkas are much better playmakers and PGs at that
Not the “3 allstar era” already being dismantled one year after the “greatest off-season in bulls history”
shyt is getting spooky around here after only 15 games …. Me personally I’m still #OptimisticBullsFam
Caruso and Williams defend ..maybe you don’t value that side of the ball but winning teams do .. those empty slash marks start to get lower and lower as you have to keep hedging on Collins ability to produce when he’s not a featured weapon
On this bulls team he’s not getting no damn 12 attempts nikka.. he can’t even get 12 attempts on his current team while playing 32 minutes lol let’s get real here .. Vucc averages 13 shots per game the next closest person is 9 … so you must think Demar and Lavine are going to give up shots for some damn John Collins when we already see that didn’t work with Dejonte Murray/Trae Young? Mind you those nikkas are much better playmakers and PGs at that
CARUSO AND PAT
WILLIAMS AVERAGE 12 SHOTS
COMBINED NOT TO MENTION
CARUSO PASSES UP A BUNCH
OF OPEN SHOTS DUE TO LACK
OF CONFIDENCE....
TREY/MURRAY/HUNTER
AVERAGE 54 SHOTS...
ZACH/DEMAR/VOOCH
AVERAGE 47 SHOTS...
1. Caruso is bench player bro …he would be getting even less attempts if was in the starting lineup sharing the ball with “the big 3” like you’d expect Collins to be
CARUSO AND PAT
WILLIAMS AVERAGE 12 SHOTS
COMBINED NOT TO MENTION
CARUSO PASSES UP A BUNCH
OF OPEN SHOTS DUE TO LACK
OF CONFIDENCE....
TREY/MURRAY/HUNTER
AVERAGE 54 SHOTS...
ZACH/DEMAR/VOOCH
AVERAGE 47 SHOTS...
2. The hawks play at a faster pace than the bulls almost 10 more FGA attempts a game in fact and yet Collins still can’t crack more than 10FGAs per game
ultimately this is just a back and forth for the sake of it … if you think JC would come here and actually put up 18/8 with the way this roster is composed god bless you ..I doubt the bulls make a move especially this one as it likely would take us over the luxury tax anyways since we couldn’t just dump 3 players for 1 ..and I think we can both agree that Jerry ain’t doing that for this team
@New Orleans - LNot the “3 allstar era” already being dismantled one year after the “greatest off-season in bulls history”
shyt is getting spooky around here after only 15 games …. Me personally I’m still #OptimisticBullsFam
Orlando
Boston
@Milwaukee
@OKC
@Utah
@PHX
@Golden State
@Sacramento
Washington
Dallas
@Atlanta
NYK
NYK
@Minnesota
That's their next 14 games. How many wins they getting? On the high end, I said 6 prior to the Pels game.
They should beat the Magic, but... Would anyone be surprised if they didn't?
1. Caruso is bench player bro …he would be getting even less attempts if was in the starting lineup sharing the ball with “the big 3” like you’d expect Collins to be
2. The hawks play at a faster pace than the bulls almost 10 more FGA attempts a game in fact and yet Collins still can’t crack more than 10FGAs per game
ultimately this is just a back and forth for the sake of it … if you think JC would come here and actually put up 18/8 with the way this roster is composed god bless you ..I doubt the bulls make a move especially this one as it likely would take us over the luxury tax anyways since we couldn’t just dump 3 players for 1 ..and I think we can both agree that Jerry ain’t doing that for this team
COLLINS IS A CAREER
20 P.E.R. 63 TS% GUY.
IM NOT GOING
DISMISS HIS WHOLE CAREER DUE
TO A 15 GAME STRETCH AT
THE START OF THE SEASON.
HE WOULD FILL THE PF
ROLE FOR THE BULLS PERFECTLY.
PER is a metric based heavily on VOLUME bruh hence his PER dropping every year after he was a featured player on a 20-47 team …but like I said if you think he would put up 18/8 numbers on this team god bless your heart family
COLLINS IS A CAREER
20 P.E.R. 63 TS% GUY.
IM NOT GOING
DISMISS HIS WHOLE CAREER DUE
TO A 15 GAME STRETCH AT
THE START OF THE SEASON.
HE WOULD FILL THE PF
ROLE FOR THE BULLS PERFECTLY.
The Bulls are playing against that useless #8 pick Franz Wagner and that major downgrade from “Allstar” Vucc ..WCJ ..so they’ll definitely run right thru Orlando with ease ..not to mention dead weight Pat Williams is hurt so preseason MVP JaVonte is going to shine
I predict a big turnaround after the Magic game …in AKME we trust
#OptimisticBullsFam
The irony of this is that with Orlando's size, Pat's presence is going to be missed if he doesn't play in this game tonight.The Bulls are playing against that useless #8 pick Franz Wagner and that major downgrade from “Allstar” Vucc ..WCJ ..so they’ll definitely run right thru Orlando with ease ..not to mention dead weight Pat Williams is hurt so preseason MVP JaVonte is going to shine
I predict a big turnaround after the Magic game …in AKME we trust
#OptimisticBullsFam
god shamgod
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Nice of Coby to join us tonight.
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