"Ayo I want to put the Paws on em"...- The Chicago Bulls 2022-23 Season thread.

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Ended up in health and safety protocols last season heading into the play-in and now again during a playoff series. How my nikka?
 
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Ok Bro’s so since most of the bulls faithful seem to already believe this season is over and have completely checked out (even with games still left on our schedule)..I figure let’s do something to cheer us up (even tho we should be ecstatic at this successful season) and get into our favorite past time “NBA Hotstove Talk” :banderas:


So I was checking out this article and it’s author had some interesting points that we as a family should address you know.





Bulls’ downward spiral could lead to an entirely different offseason

https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports-saturday/2022/3/25/22996424/bulls-slump-different-offseason-playoffs-demar-derozan-zach-lavine-arturas-karnisovas-nikola-vucevic



Some of the more thought provoking excerpts came here:

The good news is that Karnisovas and general manager Marc Eversley have shown a creativity that the Bulls’ last regime couldn’t even fathom.

That might be tested this summer. A continued downward spiral obviously would lead to questions about the three core pieces in LaVine, DeRozan and center Nikola Vucevic.

Vucevic might be the most likely piece to move because his deal goes from $24 million this season to $22 million in the last year of his deal. If the Bulls could land a more defensive-minded center, such as the Jazz’s Rudy Gobert, or even make a play for Suns restricted free agent Deandre Ayton, such a move seemingly would fix a lot of their defensive issues.
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This part to me was really interesting because he seems to be intimating that the bulls big three may not actually work… which is surprising because the 3 all star era formation really felt like a boon to most of the bulls faithful when it all initially came together… how are we feeling about this strategically moving forward :patrice:


He also seems to be suggesting that veteran all star center Nikola Vucevic is the most likely candidate to get moved first after his rocky year (don’t know who coulda saw that coming) but I just wonder about what the return could look like… y’all think we can get a similar 2 pick and young players package for his All Star level talent?

I think some interesting teams to watch would be Dallas ( THJr or Maxi,Powell) / Knicks (Nerlens and Alec) / San Antonio (Poetel and Vassel or Richardson) Idk but I’d be interested in what the crew thinks of these big return and what we can do here and if he’s right about targeting a defensive big to (surprisingly) bring more balance to our starting 5?


But what about LaVine? He’s due the max this summer, putting him in the five-year, $200 million zone if he re-signs with the Bulls and in the four-year, $160 million area if he goes elsewhere. Might the soreness in his left knee be a bigger deterrent than expected? Maybe Karnisovas will decide to go the sign-and-trade route with LaVine.
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This was another point he made that stick out to me …like is this crazy or what! Zach is only 27 do we really think AKME is already entertaining a S&T option? And what would that look like ..I’ve been reading a lot lately from bulls faithful that they (surprisingly) don’t think he’s capable of being a #1 or #2 on a championship level team… is he worth the money? Where do we go here you know.


And then lastly the coaching situation, I mean AKME made it a major priority to scoop up Billy D as soon as he became available last year… Bulls President Mikey Reinsdorf even said this about the excitement AK had during the coaching hunt to grab Billy:

“The minute that Billy Donovan announced that he wasn't returning to Oklahoma City, Arturas was ready to camp out at his house.”
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Man it would seem tuff to think AK would turn his back on a guy he was camping out for because his evaluation told him that he was that guy … Idk … what’s the families state of the union here :jbhmm:
 
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While we’re in off-season mode (with games left on the schedule) I was also thinking about a few mock drafts …. Unlike next year (where we won’t have our own draft pick as a result of the Vucevic trade) we already are locked into that 18th slot … I always like going through Kevin O’Connor’s big board as he’s pretty thorough breaking down the intricacies of the new crop of prospects.

The Ringer's 2022 NBA Mock Draft

Do we have any early favorites?


I’ve been considering a the SF position as were likely going to need some insurance for (the 33 year old) DeMar Derozan next year… here’s some of my early guys to keep an eye on:


Ousmane Dieng:



PLUSES
  • His best skill is ball handling. Despite his size, he’s able to get where he wants with this dribble using low crossovers and hesitations. He has a quick first step, too. After stringing together a series of moves, he has the control to deliver passes off the dribble or glide into right-handed layups and floaters.

  • Similarly, he’s able to generate space for pull-up jumpers. The results have not been great so far, but he looks fluid getting into shots. It’s just a matter of getting them to fall. Extending his range will be key.

  • Shows good passing vision. He can spot cutters then throw jump passes over the defense; also, if he draws help on a drive, he can find the open man outside. He could be plugged into a playmaking role if his perimeter shooting develops, but even if it doesn’t his talents could be featured in a role as a screener, cutter, and slasher.

  • Projects as a highly versatile defender thanks to his length and quickness. On-ball, he displays the agility to slide with guards and wings. His movement looks effortless. Away from the ball he has the potential to become an effective help defender in the paint if his awareness improves.
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Wendell Moore Jr:
PLUSES
  • Smooth ball handler who’s at his best when straight-line driving against a rotating defense. He runs ball screens with patience and limits turnovers, and he’s a selfless passer with vision and accuracy. He ran Duke’s offense by initiating the pick-and-roll, bringing the ball up the floor, inbounding, and feeding post players. In the NBA he likely projects as a secondary ball handler, but still brings tremendous value.

  • Crafty finisher with both hands and has a sturdy frame that can handle contact.

  • Intelligent cutter who understands how to use fakes or the angle of a screen to get himself open going toward the basket.

  • Moore shoots an easy ball, especially from off the catch. He was a limited spot-up shooter until his junior season, though he’s always shown touch from floater range and the line. His shot used to look rushed, but now it looks calm and controlled.

  • You’ll often see him fly out of nowhere to crash the boards.

  • With a near-7-foot wingspan, he has the versatility to switch across positions. He’s even strong as a post defender. When he’s engaged on defense, he appears to take pride in getting stops by focusing off-ball.
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EJ Liddell:



PLUSES
  • Boasts a muscular 240-pound frame that can handle the rigors of the interior. He played center for most of his sophomore season despite standing at 6-foot-7. He’s an excellent shot blocker, especially in help situations rotating into the paint. In February, he had success defending Illinois star Kofi Cockburn.

  • Defensive versatility. As a junior, Liddell came back a better perimeter defender than ever. Early in the season, he shut down Paolo Banchero all over the court, and then continued to bother players across positions. In a switching defense, he can handle any position.

  • Good spot-up shooter with comfortable mechanics. He has improved every season from behind the arc, so defenders close out hard and he’s able to dribble into pull-ups or get all the way to the basket.

  • Skilled post player who’s at his best facing up because he can take a jumper or attack off the dribble. With his improved shooting range, he has begun to tap into his isolation scoring.

  • Quality passer who delivers an accurate ball to teammates. He won’t be a primary initiator of offensive sets but he’s skilled in the open floor and can run some pick-and-roll.
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  • I gotta say Wendell has impressed me all year with his playmaking and physicality…as far as early favorites who’ll be available I like what I see …what does my bulls family think of this years draft class and the bulls needs moving forward at this point of the season.

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ayo/coby starting backcourt tonight, and they will easily be playing 40+ minutes I'm guessing. even if it's a blowout cuz we have no one else to play anyways.
 
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Yea we’re done

Watching that pelicans suns game made me jealously as hell….Pelicans got a center in valanciunas that just plays big…..banging in the post….intimidating the hell out of players coming in the paint…..and a very nice offensive option down low who likes to play that way


Must be nice

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