True. But NL and CMR did have some half-soft singles out there in the 90s (I Got The Hookup, Follow Me Now, Somebody Like Me)
Ayo.... How Did No Limit Sell So Many Records?
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It don't matter which part of the US bumped what. It matters who sold most worldwide, and Puffy n Mase (yeah n Pac and Jay somewhat later on) sold a shytton in the 90s,besides others (Fugees, Snoop I think). Street cred doesn't automatically translate to success n sales. You think Japanese or British folks bumped Make Em Say Uhh more than Feels So Good or Been Around The World? Some catered to worldwide broad audience (Bad Boy, LL), some catered to the skreets (NL, RR). Everyone had their run, none lasted forever due to mistakes, and people always searching for the hot new thang, no loyalty
This song is more harder than Mase Feel so good and this is a R&B singer
IN THE 90s
No Limit fans were looking for "hard" songs such as this from No Limit artists, this what made nikkas go and cop their albums
This came out in September 97 and the shyt went hard all the way to the New Years, t
I heard this song a "single" more times than Jay's WHOLE album in the Fall of 97 when I was in ATL
This is a "soft" song
IN THE 90s
No Limit fans were looking for "hard" songs such as this from No Limit artists, this what made nikkas go and cop their albums
This came out in September 97 and the shyt went hard all the way to the New Years, t
I heard this song a "single" more times than Jay's WHOLE album in the Fall of 97 when I was in ATL
This is a "soft" song
Breh, in the 90's, LL Cool J had a whole career of making soft singles. In 1997, it was the norm. P and No Limit represented the balance because they were making more hardcore music. That doesn't mean that Black people swayed one way or another because in 1997, it all was selling. That was the whole beauty of it. There was still variety.
UGK wasn't sold on singles and is a terrible example.
And as stated before No Limit had "soft" singles in the 90's. Silkk had "Somebody Like Me". "If I Could Change" is "soft" if you're saying "I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto" is "soft". Same goes for "I Miss My Homies", which is No Limit's answer to Puff's "I'll Be Missin You".
Breh, again "hard" or "soft" is IRRELEVANT. People down here bumped what they wanted to bump and weren't trippin over themselves whether it was hard or soft. That's simpleton, insecure, kid logic.
What LL numbers were looking like in 96-2000? nikka wasn't bumping no LL in that time frame dude?? What are we doing here
He made his money early on in his career when it was cool to put out "soft" songs, but after "hard" songs started making artist propel, that was the formula
UGK made no "soft" songs, that's my point. Suave House didn't put out "soft" songs nor did Rap-A-Lot
I already made mentioned about "I miss my homies" before that what other "soft" songs did P put out, before "I miss my homies" List 2 other "soft" songs P put out from No Limit BEFORE "I miss my homies"
"If I can change" is a "dark" song more than "soft" nothing "soft" about If I can change breh.
I hope you find them
Living in Cincinnati, Bout It hit hard summer/fall 1995. It was as big as any song in the area at that time. By the end of 1996, he had success in the Midwest with established artist like Ball&G and UGK (Players from the South). By the time Ice-cream Man came out, he was already a star.
In 95 I had a choice to see Biggie for free or pay to see No Limit. We chose No Limit.
In 95 I had a choice to see Biggie for free or pay to see No Limit. We chose No Limit.
This may be the only tru "soft" song they put out when they were rolling and I think rolled the dice on that one being the single
Follow Me Now, nah, I would disagree with that one
Somebody Like Me, again Silk took a chance with that one... I'll agree to say that it was a "soft" single by No Limit
Do you think "Moving On" is a soft song?
LL's album Phenomenon, which dropped in 1997 went platinum homie with the singles "Phenomenon", "4,3,2,1", and "Father". LL had "Hey Lover", "Loungin" and "Doin It" in 95/96 and was going double platinum.
Breh, UGK is a bad example because UGK NEVER sold records. They have ONE gold album in Ridin' Dirty. Making radio songs (hard or soft) was never their thing.
Suave House indeed put out "soft" songs. Where were you when MJG went gold with "That Girl" as his single in 1997.
Breh you called Pac's "I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto" soft and now you want to move goal posts and talk about dark.
Silkk had a song with Destiny's Child
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Platinum for an artist on a major label is a success homie with 3 videos homie IN THE 90s?? The nikka is from NYC, then he went from double plat to plat, (which is proving my point) nikkas weren't fukking with him that time frame I placed him.. You putting out 3 videos and only pushing out a million, you from NYC and on a major, you coming off 2x...Proving my point, nikkas wasn't fukking with LL down here like that, he made his money on the front end of his career...
Ice Cream man went Gold with how many videos and no major label backing? stop it
nikkas were going 300k 500k gold with no videos and no singles, no majors and you bragging about LL going platinum on a Major label, from NYC...
Stop it
So you think majority of LL albums sales, that 1 million, with him being from NYC, were nikkas buying his shyt from Down South?? You think nikkas down south was waiting on a LL Cool J release back in 96-2000??
Stop it
LL Cool J for putting all those "soft" singles out, what did the public label him as?? The nikka who make love/girl songs. That nikka was far away from gangsta than anything
P, Baby, Tony Draper, J-Prince, Ted Lucas, aint doing that with their artists, they didn't go for that so call "lover boy" persona for their artist
Find "soft" songs on UGK album
List 2 "soft" songs P put out before "I'm miss my homie"
"That girl" is not a "soft" song from Ball * G, that's a street song for women, Mase "Feel so Good" is a "soft" song
"I wonder if Heaven Got a Ghetto" vs "If I could change"
Did you not see "IF I could change" video...How the hell a "soft" song has a video like that??? Explain that breh... You can't be serious
It's a "slow" song, but nothing is "soft" about "If I could change" when all of the artists on the song are painting vivid homicide stories in their bars
You trying but stop it.
You said nikkas were bumping Jay-Z, when I told you they weren't, Everybody knows the south didn't start fukking with Jay-z Until he got UGK..but YOU, YOU said nikkas down south were bumping Jay-Z smh
Stop it
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Homeboy Runny-Ray
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you wrote an entire essay and i aint reading none of that chit.
you sat here and said cypress hill has more in common with arrested devlopment. you clearly dont get IT.
and i tried to give you a chance here, but instead you dug a deeper hole out the gate. you up here bringing up rock bands. im talking about black culture cognizance at the time, outside of just hip-hop. you clearly still dont get IT.
just let it go. it aint your lane. cool. dont make it worse for yourself.
Homeboy Runny-Ray
From Around The Way
ehh. i always say mystikal was the people's champ during that period when unpredictable was out. outside of east coast fans, there wasnt a more popular solo emcee than mystikal until DMX took off.
and for the record, mystikal was popular on the east as well, to a lesser extent.
that jay-z volume one album was considered a dissappointment and a sophomore slump on the east coast. he was supposed to take over with that album.
i'd imagine that his profile increased nationally tho, now that he had the def jam machine and it pushed him to his first platinum plaque. but still.
all that posthumous 2pac stuff was lite, especially all those forced hit singles.
all that stuff was selling on the east coast too tho.
i still hear "murder 2" and "the man right chea" getting played outta peoples whips sometimes.
i remember suave house putting out soft songs. "space age pimpin" was my introduction to 8ball & MJG. then MJG did a girl record video for his solo. correct me if im wrong, but Tela's videos were not hard.
rap-a-lot, i remember big mike had soft joint. do or die was heavy pimpin, but they had soft vibes on most of their singles.
mr smith dropped in '95 but it was more of a '96 album.
besides, LL always fed the streets with a signature single.
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Breh, you continue to move goal posts. LL Cool J was going platinum and double platinum most of his career. He didn't sell this enormous amount of records and then taper off. That wasn't the point of my post anyway. You said artists in the 90's couldn't be hard on one album and turn around and make soft the next. Mama Said Knock You Out and Mr. Smith was LL doing exactly that especially with the singles.
Well, Do or Die went gold TWICE with one video on each album they released in the 90's.
See my post about LL
Breh, he went platinum. DEAL WITH IT.
It doesn't matter what he was labeled. People looked at Silkk The Shocker in the same light.
Again, Silkk was that for No Limit.
"That Girl" is straight outta LL Cool J playback. Its a soft song by your definition.
Breh, UGK is one of my favorite groups,, buta
Did you see the video for "I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto"? Do you not hear him talking about the riots and burning down cities in this song?
Again, you're claiming one song is soft, but when challenged on it you're moving goal posts as if it doesn't also apply to the other song. BE CONSISTENT.
Breh, The South was on Jay's music BEFORE "Big Pimpin". I never said Jay Z was a major artist here. Still, The South was on Jay before "Big Pimpin". When "Money Ain't A Thang" dropped in 1998, that was when he began to be somebody in The South. Before that, he just had joints. I mean, he was on the I Got The Hook Up soundtrack, "Ha" remix, and Silkk's "You Know What We Bout" before "Big Pimpin" was even conceived.
Mystikal was popular, but most popular is stretch.
Jay Z also teased retirement with that album, but its neither here or there. He definitely wasn't the man with that album, but to saybit got no play is false.
None of those were forced. He had two singles from that album that were pretty popular. Then there was "Lost Souls" and "Rearview", which were also popular.
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Eh, you're kind of right here, but LL's career in the early '90s took a HUGE dive due to him being perceived as soft.
Big Daddy Kane never recovered after going "soft".
That's why LL had to comeback to the streets with that "Flava In Your Ear" remix spot and super hard with "I Shot Ya" and the "I Shot Ya Remix"
By '97 though, you're right Puffy had changed the game where nikkaz like him & Mase could make soft records and still run shyt.
Just say you don't know what the fukk you're talking about and KIM.
nikka says "You're too deep into Hip-Hop", so I show him that I'm not "too deep into Hip-Hop" and he just pulls the whole "I'm not reading all that shyt because I got my skirt pulled up" excuse.
