Ayo.... How Did No Limit Sell So Many Records?

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Mystikal had the single "It aint no Limit" as his "official" single

That song did absolutely nothing for Mystikal. I like the songs. It still remains one of my favorite Mystikal songs, but I didn't buy the album for that song. Matter of fact, when this album was discussed with friends. That song never came up, however "Murder 2", "Still Smokin", "Ghetto Child", "Sleepin With Me" were all popular songs from that album.

But radio was playing this

You really think nikkas were bumping Mase "feels so good" over The Man Right chea?? Lol...
Stop it breh

I was in ATL for it, You really think folks were bumping "Feels So Good" let alone riding around ATL listening to Mase "whole" album over a Mystikal Unpredicatable album??

You think folks in ATL was listening to a Jay-z album over Mystikal or a 2pac R U Still Down album with those "soft" singles he put out over "The Man Right Chea"??

Stop it breh, as I said, I was in ATL, in the areas where the black folks were and they were on Mystikal's album

yeah, radio was playing "The Man Richt Chea" and was a popular song here despite not being a hit, but no it wasn't bigger than "Feels So Good" (nobody really cared about it being commercial because the song jammed).

And again, I'm betting on few people riding around bumping an entire album vs. riding around bumping the songs they liked.

And this is how I know you have no idea what you are talking about. An album runs about an hour long so you definitely haven't witnessed anyone you weren't in the car with bumping an entire Mystikal or anybody's album unless you were stuck in traffic.
 

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It is also ignorant to assume that Black people would gravitate towards Mystikal and shun Mase or Pac songs that were perceived as soft. We gravitate and vibe to all types of music regardless of whether it is hood or commercial. Everybody in the hood isn't just listening to music that is perceived as hood. Hood dudes were bumping Puff too. A lot of them flashy, jiggy singles had lyrics that were raw. It wasn't like a lot of us ain't grow up listening to the songs that were sampled.
 

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It is also ignorant to assume that Black people would gravitate towards Mystikal and shun Mase or Pac songs that were perceived as soft. We gravitate and vibe to all types of music regardless of whether it is hood or commercial. Everybody in the hood isn't just listening to music that is perceived as hood. Hood dudes were bumping Puff too. A lot of them flashy, jiggy singles had lyrics that were raw. It wasn't like a lot of us ain't grow up listening to the songs that were sampled.

My guy, Nobody from the Wards in 97 were playing Mase nor Puffy "whole" albums, We have a thing call Super Sunday, every Sunday folks would pull up on the Lake and it's a big ass block party, Nobody was bumping those albums....When I came to ATL in the Fall of 97 when Mase and Mystikal both albums were out, Nobody was bumping the whole album to Mase... again, I went to the Heritage Bowl and was there for the Saints vs ATL game in that time frame.

For the Bayou Classic, in 97 when it had folks flying down here from all over the country, NOBODY was bumping Harlem World in the French Quarter or at this event.... Dude I was in it...I was there. Like I said, the only time Mase was played was on the radio.

Pac in 97 R U STILL DOWN ALBUM was not being played either at these "black events" You was not pulling up to a HBCU game on Saturday night, or day and somebody was playing 2pac R U STILL DOWN album, nor were they playing Mase Harlem World,

You was not pulling up to a Friday Night HS Football game or dance playing Mase, or 2pac R U Still Down

Stop it,

Bayou Classic 97
The Heritage Bowl 97
ATL vs Saints 97

Mystikal album along with the Hot Boys albums and other southern artists were being played at these events, not no Mase, not no 2pac R U STILL Down Album

It was strictly these albums or Ghetto D or other Southern acts, and Crucial Conflict, Bone maybe
 

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That song did absolutely nothing for Mystikal. I like the songs. It still remains one of my favorite Mystikal songs, but I didn't buy the album for that song. Matter of fact, when this album was discussed with friends. That song never came up, however "Murder 2", "Still Smokin", "Ghetto Child", "Sleepin With Me" were all popular songs from that album.



yeah, radio was playing "The Man Richt Chea" and was a popular song here despite not being a hit, but no it wasn't bigger than "Feels So Good" (nobody really cared about it being commercial because the song jammed).

And again, I'm betting on few people riding around bumping an entire album vs. riding around bumping the songs they liked.

And this is how I know you have no idea what you are talking about. An album runs about an hour long so you definitely haven't witnessed anyone you weren't in the car with bumping an entire Mystikal or anybody's album unless you were stuck in traffic.


I said, "it aint no limit" was Mystikal first single: Then I said, "The Man Right Chea" wasn't a single but it was being played on the radio (when the album came out) as if it was his "official" single

Mase had "Feel So Good" as his single. What nikka is riding around town or pulling up to a "black event" playing Feel So Good? and Mase whole album, down here vs pulling up and playing "The Man Right Chea" that's what I am saying..

When I was in ATL, for the fall of 97, I was around a slew of black folks because The Heritage Bowl was a huge draw back then along with ATL vs NO, not one time I heard Mase album coming from out of a car or being played at a function and I was all up and down ATL at the events

I compared his singles to Mystikal single, adding "The Man Right Chea" along with adding Mystikal's anticipation of his first album to be released off No Limit...That made folks down south cop his album

Nobody down south or shall I say, "The masses" of folks down south was anticipating Mase's album. The masses down here wasn't sitting by the radio waiting for a Mase release date.

The masses was sitting down here waiting on Mystikal shyt to drop that Tuesday, or Friday...Not no Mase
 

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That song did absolutely nothing for Mystikal. I like the songs. It still remains one of my favorite Mystikal songs, but I didn't buy the album for that song. Matter of fact, when this album was discussed with friends. That song never came up, however "Murder 2", "Still Smokin", "Ghetto Child", "Sleepin With Me" were all popular songs from that album.



yeah, radio was playing "The Man Richt Chea" and was a popular song here despite not being a hit, but no it wasn't bigger than "Feels So Good" (nobody really cared about it being commercial because the song jammed).

And again, I'm betting on few people riding around bumping an entire album vs. riding around bumping the songs they liked.

And this is how I know you have no idea what you are talking about. An album runs about an hour long so you definitely haven't witnessed anyone you weren't in the car with bumping an entire Mystikal or anybody's album unless you were stuck in traffic.


Breh.

I had Mystikal album, we played it out when we were in ATL, when you are at an event, you don't have to sit around for an whole hour to know if people are playing the whole album...You hear different tracks from off the album being played, you hear folks pulling up playing Track 2, or 4 etc, you ride by hoes playing and hear them playing Track 3 or 4

When I was in ATL for 97, I literally rode by no hoes, nor pulled up to no hoes nor heard any chicks playing Mase, 2pac, or Jay's album while I was there the whole time...all I heard was Mystikal's album or Ghetto D other southern acts, or that song Shawty Swing My Way single, I remember that had came out and it caught on fire with the hoes, I figured that was what them ATL hoes were on, but it was many women from all other the country that came down for the Heritage Bowl, and they wasn't playing no 2 pac R U STILL DOWN, nor were they playing Mase Harlem World...
 

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I think we get it. Mystikal was kind of a big deal.
I don't think Mystikal got as much radio play in the North East as he would in the deep South in 1997 to 1998.
Especially with releases from Jay Z ,Bad boy . Etc.
Remarkle Mystikal did numbers in that climate imo.

Mystikal went platinum twice and 2x platinum from 1997 TO 2000
 

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@NO-BadAzz Mase didn't dominate radio where you were?

Mase dominated radio in the DMV during that time.

Yes, Mase dominated, and that's the furthest you heard Mase "ON THE RADIO"

The masses down south wasn't copping Harlem World, that's my point. Mase "Feel So Good" was not a single appealing to nikkas...It was a "soft" record. If you didn't have a "hard" record, we down here consider you a sell-out or we didn't really take you serious.. IF UGK put out a "soft" record in the 90s, which they never did, their fan base would be looking at them sidewayz

Pac put out 2 "soft" singles (they were cool) but that R U Still Down album didn't move nikkas to go and cop it in the fall of 97.

P put out "hard" records/singles and that was a hidden gem, that folks don't talk about, "I miss my homie" was tip-toe'n but he had Pimp C who did his thing, Besides "I'm miss my homies" everything No Limit came out as singles were "hard" records, club bangers
 
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I think we get it. Mystikal was kind of a big deal.
I don't think Mystikal got as much radio play in the North East as he would in the deep South in 1997 to 1998.
Especially with releases from Jay Z ,Bad boy . Etc.
Remarkle Mystikal did numbers in that climate imo.

Mystikal went platinum twice and 2x platinum from 1997 TO 2000

I just don't like how folks try and down-size/down play the game.

It was a beautiful time and I don't think we would ever get back to that point where it was pure Essence

A breh post summed it, like it's something you can't explain back in those days...

The proper information along with the proper context has to be accurate when talking about these times..Folks wanna prop up people (who were out) who back then was looking up to folks that don't get talked about now in 2020
 

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Yes, Mase dominated, and that's the furthest you heard Mase "ON THE RADIO"

The masses down south wasn't copping Harlem World, that's my point. Mase "Feel So Good" was not a single appealing to nikkas...It was a "soft" record. If you didn't have a "hard" record, we down here consider you a sell-out or we didn't really take you serious.. IF UGK put out a "soft" record in the 90s, which they never did, their fan base would be looking at them sidewayz

Pac put out 2 "soft" singles (they were cool) but that R U Still Down album didn't move nikkas to go and cop it in the fall of 97.

P put on "hard" records and that was a hidden gem, that folks don't talk about, "I miss my homie" was tip-toe'n but he had Pimp C who did his thing, Besides "I'm miss my homies" everything No Limit came out as singles were "hard" records, club bangers

Breh, your whole premise is off. Black people don't just go around ignoring music because it's "soft" or bunp music because its so called "hard". That's already faulty logic and sounds like something someone who was really young would do. Furthermore, you keep moving goal posts and talking about specific events knowing full well people, even down here were bumping Mase in 1997. And "Shawty Swing My Way" was definitely huge here at the time, but there's like a 100 other records that were also big here at the time. That's an easy go to record.
 

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I just don't like how folks try and down-size/down play the game.

It was a beautiful time and I don't think we would ever get back to that point where it was pure Essence

A breh post summed it, like it's something you can't explain back in those days...

The proper information along with the proper context has to be accurate when talking about these times..Folks wanna prop up people (who were out) who back then was looking up to folks that don't get talked about now in 2020
I feel you I think Rap fans especially East coast Rap fans don't like to remember or recognize maybe even at the time of release and now that Mystikal's album went Platinum twice and as 2x paltnum.
Silk was going Platnium C Murder going Platnium.
 

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I just don't like how folks try and down-size/down play the game.

It was a beautiful time and I don't think we would ever get back to that point where it was pure Essence

A breh post summed it, like it's something you can't explain back in those days...

The proper information along with the proper context has to be accurate when talking about these times..Folks wanna prop up people (who were out) who back then was looking up to folks that don't get talked about now in 2020

Breh, you are the one doing the downplaying. Nobody is saying Mystikal wasn't huge, you in here like Mystikal was ALL anybody Down South was bumpin in late 1997 and I'm telling youbits false.

And no you don't have the proper information.
 

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Breh, you are the one doing the downplaying. Nobody is saying Mystikal wasn't huge, you in here like Mystikal was ALL anybody Down South was bumpin in late 1997 and I'm telling youbits false.

And no you don't have the proper information.

And I'm telling you that's what it was.

You said folks were bumping Jay in the Fall of 97, Folks down south WAS NOT bumping Jay-z Vol 1 down south, when Jay told you that he couldn't break down south market until he got UGK on a song..but you telling us folks down south were bumping Jay-z over Unpredictable.

I even told you the single "sunshine" was not a song nikkas was riding around to and that was his single

But you made it seem like Jay-Z's album he dropped in late Fall of 97, folks down south, in ATL, and I told you I was there in ATL in 97, and I didn't hear no dayum Jay-Z being played but you insist that nikkas were bumping Jay's Vol 1 album. nikkas weren't bumping that, The women wasn't playing No Jay-Z nor Mase and if the women aint playing it, the nikkas aint fukking wit it either, THIS HOW It WAS IN THE 90s

If you were 7 years old or 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, you wouldn't know how the climate was


I told you Jay wasn't on folks mind, nor had songs that nikkas down south was bumping but yet you mentioned the 2 or 3 songs that nikkas were bumping, but Jay himself and many others told you that nikkas down south wasn't fukkin with him until he got UGK on a song..

Ok breh
 
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Breh, your whole premise is off. Black people don't just go around ignoring music because it's "soft" or bunp music because its so called "hard". That's already faulty logic and sounds like something someone who was really young would do. Furthermore, you keep moving goal posts and talking about specific events knowing full well people, even down here were bumping Mase in 1997. And "Shawty Swing My Way" was definitely huge here at the time, but there's like a 100 other records that were also big here at the time. That's an easy go to record.


Mase put out "Feel So Good" that was a "soft" ass single when at the time P and others were putting out "hard" singles. That's an appeal to their audience, folks subconsciously gravitate to something that they are a fan of.

When you put out "soft" songs, you lose your appeal to your "core" fanbase, thus me saying if UGK did something like that, put out a "soft" single, their core fanbase wouldn't just look the other way, they would be looking sidewayz at them for releasing that material IN THE 90s.

Wrap your head around "IN THE 90s" and stop thinking 2020, You can get away with it now..and folks will still stick wit you, IN THE 90s, if you were a cartoon character on your first album, be one on your second album, If you were known for "hard" singles and music and you put out a "soft" single, BACK IN THE 90s, that didn't sit well with folks

Which is why I mentioned Master P, You can also check Cash Money record too, and look at their singles, and see if they had any "soft" singles. IN THE 90s
 
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