Avenatti Dem Presidential Primary Thread

[Pressure]

 

[Renzo]

This.

I'm actually pretty disappointed that this "Avenatti for prez" stuff is in HL. You want a guy that:

• Doesn't have a political platform and hasn't shared his political views publicly
• Never comes across as diplomatic and presidential
• Has never held a position in a political office
• Has been married multiple times (clearly not the best when it comes to judgment)
• Has been sued multiple times in his past. (And the rulings went against him)
• Speaks his mind and isn't politically correct. "If they go low, we hit the harder"

You guys might have your blinders on, but I'll say it... you want the democratic version of Trump

Actually he does have a platform and has shared his political views. Rest of that shyt isnt worth replying to and can be said for the majority of politicians. He's the Democrats best hope. Its a reason Republicans and some establishment Democrats are coming at him so hard.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Actually he does have a platform and has shared his political views. Rest of that shyt isnt worth replying to and can be said for the majority of politicians. He's the Democrats best hope. Its a reason Republicans and some establishment Democrats are coming at him so hard.

This is one of the key reasons I have'nt given this dude the thumbs down completely yet

Why is the establishment and the GOP coming at his neck so hard?

Fake stories about him getting evicted? Fake stories about him getting nabbed for DV charges? Why? Why are they going so hard to get him out the paint?

And truth be told, he was right when he said they better run a white guy. There are no Obama-like transcendent candidates that will energize the base enough to get them to go out and vote the way they did with Obama.

Run someone that WILL win...not someone you "like". And he might not be that guy, but there is a reason he's got all these people coming at him.

My guess is that this dude is the "outsider" that Trump claimed to be but clearly isn't

 

[Macallik86]

Actually he does have a platform and has shared his political views. Rest of that shyt isnt worth replying to and can be said for the majority of politicians. He's the Democrats best hope. Its a reason Republicans and some establishment Democrats are coming at him so hard.

He basically did a cut and paste job on every mainstream Democratic policy. It was 3 pages long.

Please name other successful politicians that have the following traits:

• Never comes across as diplomatic and presidential
• Has never held a position in a political office
• Has been married multiple times (clearly not the best when it comes to judgment)
• Has been sued multiple times in his past. (And the rulings went against him)
• Speaks his mind and isn't politically correct. "If they go low, we hit the harder"

 

[StatUS]

He basically did a cut and paste job on every mainstream Democratic policy. It was 3 pages long.

Please name other successful politicians that have the following traits:

• Never comes across as diplomatic and presidential
• Has never held a position in a political office
• Has been married multiple times (clearly not the best when it comes to judgment)
• Has been sued multiple times in his past. (And the rulings went against him)
• Speaks his mind and isn't politically correct. "If they go low, we hit the harder"

These dudes just want another white daddy as president because they love how Trump acts but hate what he stands for. Acting like this average ass dude is Luke Skywalker and shyt

 

[Pressure]

These dudes just want another white daddy as president because they love how Trump acts but hate what he stands for. Acting like this average ass dude is Luke Skywalker and shyt

Says the guy who always shyts on the only black male president.

 

[StatUS]

Says the guy who always shyts on the only black male president.

I "always" shyt on Obama? Where? Find the quotes, then also look up my support for Hakeem Jefferies and Kamala Harris even though I don't quite align with her on some issues. I'll wait.

 

[Pressure]

I "always" shyt on Obama? Where? Find the quotes,

I'm independent I don't even like Obama like that but Mittens lying and backtracking has me rooting for the Dems.

Obama calling out socialist now? I wonder who he's talking about

Damn brehs. Obama just declared a house a national monument for woman on Equal Pay Day then declared "we're close to a woman president."

Hillary's about to grab that baton and run through the finish line

Everytime Obama does something like this it's always the Republicans fault or he's playing chess

Yeah I've always had a problem with Obama playing "the president of all people" thing in these situations.

 

[Pressure]

Ole Bernie or bust ass

Enjoy the bust.

Trump is terrible and not an option. But having a president that supports the extended surveillance state we live in and a neo con viewpoint on foreign relations is a silent detraction that the general public doesn't take into account of the so called "liberal" candidate. It's why I could never vote for Obama again and why Hillary Clinton while not as bad as Trump is just not an option too. I can't have that bs on my conscience.

The Supreme Court picks and vow to fight legalized bribery are important but I just can't take her word for it when she's been on the opposite end of everything she's fighting for now just 5 years ago. It's a no go for me.

 

[Pressure]

:Wheretheydothatat:

A vote out of fear is the worst kind. Dems are not as bad but I'll never agree with people voting for them out of fear of what the GOP will do. If you look at some of policies Clinton and Obama pushed you'd think they were right wingers too.

 

[StatUS]

:Wheretheydothatat:

Voting out of fear is why Hillary lost. In these midterms people voted for issues and swept shyt up. And you'd be dishonest and disagree that some of the polices of the Dem establishment economically and in defense don't lean right. Try again.

 

[Macallik86]

Well damn

 

[Pressure]

Voting out of fear is why Hillary lost. In these midterms people voted for issues and swept shyt up. And you'd be dishonest and disagree that some of the polices of the Dem establishment economically and in defense don't lean right. Try again.

Breh, I literally just quoted you saying you didn't vote for her because despite her saying things you like you chose not to believe her.

 

[StatUS]

Breh, I literally just quoted you saying you didn't vote for her because despite her saying things you like you chose not to believe her.

That's not what that quote is saying at all and I still voted for her at the end of the day when I was in a red state. Now I asked you to post me shytting on Obama "always" yet you could only find some over years of time. shytting on Hillary you would have been right. And sometimes even unnecessarily in hindsight.

The only problem Obama's had is a congress that wouldn't work with him and some hiccups when dealing with the future. I think he has plans to cut the debt but it was never really in the cards for his first term unless he had full support from Congress. So he's a bit of a liar for misleading the public into thinking he was gonna heal all what ails us in the first term.

Besides the obvious culprits outside the government the biggest blame goes back to Congress to me. The Dems could have gotten some kind of debt-reduction plan going along with the Stimulus. And when the Repubs had control they could of been more helpful with Obama to get things moving but that was never going to happen as we all know.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong though but I just see an incompetent Congress at the forefront of this.

Do you really think the current situation we are in is what the administration expected 4 years ago? Now if you ask me I kinda expected this.

By back on track I don't mean a surplus and everybody is singing kumbaya in the streets

But I'm sure Obama and pretty much everyone was thinking it would be better than this though.

Obama's not gonna let Netanyahu come at him like the spoiled child he is. That's what the Republican's are for

None of these Hillary supporters have anything of substance

And if people were really down with Obama they would have voted in the midterms to make his job easier and his own colleagues wouldn't have completely distanced themselves from him until last year.

People are riding the Titanic and turning their backs from the iceburg. It's hilarious how Dems went from "Yes we can" to straight bureaucratic pragmatist. The GOP lost the executive branch and is now going in on yall with no vaseline at every other turn to the point where the left has turned to straight bytches.

And do the Dems get tough on them? Nope, they take all their anger out on progressives while the right will continue to kill it at the state level and congress.

Congratulations, I guess. Imwithher

Gotta disagree on Obama being weak on mergers. He's been pretty strong on fighting large mergers. Hillary would be weak because she's completely bought and sold but she does move like grass in the wind if you push her enough. Trump to his credit had been consistent on this even though his own business practices make it seem like lip service.

As far as picking presidential candidates (Obama, Sanders) millennials are much greater than other demos (Hillary, Trump).

But they fall short in the down ballot and that's because they don't have the party loyalty other demos have. Obama could have fostered that after his historic win but he disbanded his movement in favor of the political elite.

The whole identity politics thing is a spin to me. Most people's issue is not with appealing to identity but just coming with that and nothing else. But I guess depending where you are on the political spectrum one's policy can be seen as empty or substantive. The divide on that in the Democratic party is interesting because that's all the GOP relies on but in a negative way.

But if Dems are appealing to black people at a 90%+ clip there should be more representation shown to continue growth and sustain their power at the least.

As far as the consultant thing that was all Hillary and her team. Obama had shut all that lobbying shyt down in the DNC but it started back up when she took control. And at the end of the day I can respect Hillary for her power ("don't hate the player hate the game.") but there were millions of people who just weren't gonna rock with her even in the face of a fascist regime.

That needs to be fixed and it'll be easy if a black progressive movement swept the Dems in vain of Obama. We'll see if it happens because they need us if they want to survive as a party.

Edit: Bout to get on a flight but you're point on Jim Crow is true which is why I ponder the numbers locally.

Obama's DOJ is making some good strides since they decided to give a tap on the wrist to Wall Street, this is great

I can do the same thing of me supporting and having nuanced opinions on Obama and his administration. I always maintained to vote for the Supreme Court. But I don't straight up fellate to power like you sometimes partake in, sir.

 

[Pressure]

That's not what that quote is saying at all and I still voted for her at the end of the day when I was in a red state. Now I asked you to post me shytting on Obama "always" yet you could only find some over years of time. shytting on Hillary you would have been right. And sometimes even unnecessarily in hindsight.

















I can do the same thing of me supporting and having nuanced opinions on Obama and his administration. I always maintained to vote for the Supreme Court. But I don't straight up fellate to power like you sometimes partake in, sir.

Your reading comprehension is bad, even when reading your own quotes.