Austin Rivers puts Doc on that summerjam screen

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I can CLEARLY see some of ya'll ain't have fathers in ya lives/in the house growing up....



SMH. Thinking that giving ya kid a job (regardless of what kind or how much it pays) is the end all, be all of being a parent.


I joke with the "fatherless" thing, but I see it's a lot more real than I truly thought. Ya'll need hugs man. Ya dad is/should be your first role model. He's the first version of a "man" that you see.

Cuz had pretty much everything growing up, dad was an NBA player and coach, but that involves a LOT of time away. My dad works in a different state but I'll be damn if he not back in the DMV (where him and my mom own a house) damn near 2-3 times a month. Even tho my sister and I both grown, we make sure that FAMILY comes first. My pops got a very demanding job, but HE and all of us, put our family first b/c beyond money, material things, etc family would/should ALWAYS be there


shame on some of ya'll...being raised hard isn't an excuse to not show ya kids, especially ya sons, some love and guidance
 

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Breh I’m 41 and we have totally different views about this shyt....
So what exactly do you think I'm saying in my posts.....I have two daughters one is 21 one is 7 wasn't heavily involved with the first due to a 3 state separation...but my youngest is well taken care of and I'm usually the last face she sees before bed....but if I got to grind extra hard for that bag then that father of the yr shyt is off the table cause I'm going to miss some shyt for her benefit...nikkas coming for my head in this thread don't seem to know real life ...but in no way am I saying don't be there for your kids...
 

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Everyone upset with Austin is implying he's ungrateful.

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Pump the brakes on that assumption train, pleighboi... I don't view it as an issue regarding gratitude.

Whether Doc was a good father or not, I'm sure there's enough adult friends in Austin's inner circle that he could vent his daddy issues to, not some sh1t-stain reporter who genuinely couldn't care less about their relationship except for how it could give him a good story for him to make a name off of.

You mad at your pops for how he was as a dad? That's fine, just man up and air your grievances with that man, behind closed doors, like family is supposed to. You may not solve a damn thing but it's way healthier than dragging out a "within the family" issue for public consumption for damn near a decade.

Constantly crying to anyone within earshot that Daddy didn't do his job is only acceptable for broads who make their money with a pole between their legs, whether it be the steel or meat variety.
 

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Defending deadbets. SMH
WE know the situation because Austin is telling us.
Doc is a deadbeat father. He never spent time with his son and he doesn't care about his grandson except in the context of basketball.
He is a failure as a father and a real man.
Call Doc whatever you want but he aint no goddamn deadbeat, you're just soft
 

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Constantly crying to anyone within earshot that Daddy didn't do his job is only acceptable for broads who make their money with a pole between their legs, whether it be the steel or meat variety.
Austin has never even cried about this. He's been frank and honest. He doesn't seek out the questions, or try to be inflammatory. He's just brief and honest. Been downright respectful while also not betraying his own personal truth.

Should he lie? Or say "stop asking me questions about my father" that people will just run with and spin out of control?

They ask him a question, he answers short and sweet, and keeps it moving.

Again, A LOT of projection going on towards Austin.
 

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I understand both sides of it. My pops wasn't one of them warm and fuzzy niiggas. He was straight up and down, always told me what time it was. As I got older I understood that he was a product of how he came up. I never knew his pops, and don't think he knew that much about him either other than that he was a barber. So he came up rough, and he was always making sure I wasn't on no foolishness. Even though he would get home late from work cause of driving trucks, we would watch games together, he'd take me to ride my bike, or play catch with me, but it definitely wasn't no warm and fuzzy constant "I love you" type situations. Ironically it wasn't until I had my oldest son that I saw that side of him. It was funny for me to watch him interact with him as a baby and see him just melt. I would be like "is this the same niigga that I grew up around?" But I never had any doubt that he loved me. I just kinda figured he could only give me what he knew. But I knew that I could give my kids more. So I think I did more in terms of being approachable while at the same time letting them know I ain't their buddy.

The homie Doc might have been the same way; I knew he grew up rough in Chicago. Maybe with him coaching in Boston and providing for his family in Orlando, he felt like he was doing his job as a parent, not really realizing that his kids needed more. Might be that Austin don't even like ball like that, it might have just been his only way of connecting with his pops on some level.

Who knows, maybe they'll wind up on that "Iyanla Fix My Life" show my wife loves to watch. That might be the one time I sit down and watch it with her.
Took me to go to Nigeria as an adult to get why my parents were the way they were in terms of not being the touchy feeling paying attention to your emotions type.
 

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Doc got that "I ain't here to coddle your ass" raspy voice too. :russ:
 

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In this world fukk all that bullshyt "hands on daddy" bullshyt.... He was out there in this world providing a cushy life for his family and this lil ungrateful mf throwing shots....u sound like a "new age man" wanna be all "cuddle cuddle" with your son and shyt ... nope ...no matter what this world ain't changed...and you know Doc from the old school

But Dale Curry is hella close to his kds tho.

No excuses
 

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There is no excuse as a father to not make time to be with your kids. Period.
Austin is mad becaues he didn't have a father growing up and has no relationship with him.
He should be angry about that and Doc should be ashamed of himself as a man that he wasn't their for his own kid and has no relationship with him.

Lol ok bro. I never said or implied anything like that. You're completely missing my point. Good day to you.
 

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I understand both sides of it. My pops wasn't one of them warm and fuzzy niiggas. He was straight up and down, always told me what time it was. As I got older I understood that he was a product of how he came up. I never knew his pops, and don't think he knew that much about him either other than that he was a barber. So he came up rough, and he was always making sure I wasn't on no foolishness. Even though he would get home late from work cause of driving trucks, we would watch games together, he'd take me to ride my bike, or play catch with me, but it definitely wasn't no warm and fuzzy constant "I love you" type situations. Ironically it wasn't until I had my oldest son that I saw that side of him. It was funny for me to watch him interact with him as a baby and see him just melt. I would be like "is this the same niigga that I grew up around?" But I never had any doubt that he loved me. I just kinda figured he could only give me what he knew. But I knew that I could give my kids more. So I think I did more in terms of being approachable while at the same time letting them know I ain't their buddy.

The homie Doc might have been the same way; I knew he grew up rough in Chicago. Maybe with him coaching in Boston and providing for his family in Orlando, he felt like he was doing his job as a parent, not really realizing that his kids needed more. Might be that Austin don't even like ball like that, it might have just been his only way of connecting with his pops on some level.

Who knows, maybe they'll wind up on that "Iyanla Fix My Life" show my wife loves to watch. That might be the one time I sit down and watch it with her.
I was listening to a podcast and they were kinda breaking down the generational differences in parenting and basically described the scenario you're doing. They were all dudes in their late 30s, and they mentioned how their parents were raised in households where their own parents were in unhappy marriages they felt obligated to stick to because of societal pressure and how much that impacted them...it caused that generation of parents, the baby boomers, to be like :whoa: at the stress of domestic life and put their own personal happiness above their families, which led to the era of neglectful/absentee fathers. And now the Gen X'er/Millenials see that and are trying to be more involved with their kids.

Pendulum might swing though. Especially in today's day and age where it's harder for people to make a living on their own and marriage isn't put on the same pedastal it used to be.
 
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