ATTN Napolean (and other nonbelievers)

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This is also false as all the Synoptic Gospels are written by anonymous authors and are, by far, the most written-about books in the NT.

Paul wrote none of them.

The (uncontested) Books written by Paul are:

Romans
1 Corinthians
2 Corinthians
Galatians
Philippians
1 Thessalonians
Philemon
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Lies.

You can't use the bible to justify the bible. Thats circular reasoning...lets not also talk about the influence of existing books that the bible steals stories from...OR how you conveniently leave out the Apocrypha...

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Lies.

You can't use the bible to justify the bible.

Those aren't lies and there is no one in this thread using the Bible to 'justify' the Bible. They are nothing more than ancient records which is what historians use since time-travel isn't possible.

Catholics and Orthodox Christians regard many of the Apochryphal texts as canonical dating back to the Council of Trent in the 16th Century.....

http://history.hanover.edu/texts/trent/trentall.html

And it has thought it meet that a list of the sacred books be inserted in this decree, lest a doubt may arise in any one's mind, which are the books that are received by this Synod. They are as set down here below: of the Old Testament: the five books of Moses, to wit, Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy; Josue, Judges, Ruth, four books of Kings, two of Paralipomenon, the first book of Esdras, and the second which is entitled Nehemias; Tobias, Judith, Esther, Job, the Davidical Psalter, consisting of a hundred and fifty psalms; the Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, the Canticle of Canticles, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Isaias, Jeremias, with Baruch; Ezechiel, Daniel; the twelve minor prophets, to wit, Osee, Joel, Amos, Abdias, Jonas, Micheas, Nahum, Habacuc, Sophonias, Aggaeus, Zacharias, Malachias; two books of the Machabees, the first and the second. Of the New Testament: the four Gospels, according
[Page 19] to Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John; the Acts of the Apostles written by Luke the Evangelist; fourteen epistles of Paul the apostle, (one) to the Romans, two to the Corinthians, (one) to the Galatians, to the Ephesians, to the Philippians, to the Colossians, two to the Thessalonians, two to Timothy, (one) to Titus, to Philemon, to the Hebrews; two of Peter the apostle, three of John the apostle, one of the apostle James, one of Jude the apostle, and the Apocalypse of John the apostle. But if any one receive not, as sacred and canonical, the said books entire with all their parts, as they have been used to be read in the Catholic Church, and as they are contained in the old Latin vulgate edition; and knowingly and deliberately contemn the traditions aforesaid; let him be anathema. Let all, therefore, understand, in what order, and in what manner, the said Synod, after having laid the foundation of the Confession of faith, will proceed, and what testimonies and authorities it will mainly use in confirming dogmas, and in restoring morals in the Church.

Cultures in the ancient Near East had a shared 'theology' (for lack of a better term), so to say anything was 'stolen' just isn't historically accurate. The Akkadians, Ugaritians, Babylonians, etc., ALL had a similar world-view. The major difference is that the ancient Isrealites had a 'revolutionary' (not evolutionary) spin on it by with monotheism when all the surrounding cultures used polytheism/paganism. Of them all, only their culture and traditions survived.​

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Those aren't lies and there is no one in this thread using the Bible to 'justify' the Bible. They are nothing more than ancient records which is what historians use since time-travel isn't possible.

Catholics and Orthodox Christians regard many of the Apochryphal texts as canonical dating back to the Council of Trent in the 16th Century.....

http://history.hanover.edu/texts/trent/trentall.html

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Cultures in the ancient Near East had a shared 'theology' (for lack of a better term), so to say anything was 'stolen' just isn't historically accurate. The Akkadians, Ugaritians, Babylonians, etc., ALL had a similar world-view. The major difference is that the ancient Isrealites had a 'revolutionary' (not evolutionary) spin on it by with monotheism when all the surrounding cultures used polytheism/paganism. Of them all, only their culture and traditions survived.​

Theres no consensus on which part of the bible seriously came first. Then it depends if you're talking NT or OT.

Keep trying though.

Also, you can keep trying to rewrite this shyt and skew it by theologicans (who clearly have more invested [not talking Ehrman]) and it won't make the argument more reasonable.

And please tell me how the apocrypha was around int he 16th century when King James and his cronies did their revision in the 14th?

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Theres no consensus on which part of the bible seriously came first. Then it depends if you're talking NT or OT.

I'm referring only to the NT and 1 Thessalonians was the earliest written document according to the consensus of 99% of Ancient Near East, Ancient Greek/Roman & NT scholars.​

Also, you can keep trying to rewrite this shyt and skew it by theologicans (who clearly have more invested [not talking Ehrman]) and it won't make the argument more reasonable.

The only one attempting a re-write of 'this shyt', is you. There are far too many copies/manuscripts/uncials/etc. from antiquity to 'skew' anything in the 21st century, such as the various Codices (Vaticanus, Sinaiticus, etc.) written in the 4th Century and earlier.​

And please tell me how the apocrypha was around int he 16th century when King James and his cronies did their revision in the 14th?

The Apochryphal texts have been around since before the NT was written. They were actually referred to in the NT. For instance, this is from 1 Jude (KJV):

14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

The Ethiopian Orthodox Church has had these documents as part of their canon for centuries.​

 

[Black Hans]

Are you sure you're not trolling, breh?

No trolling.

 

[SpacelySprockets]

I'm in school doing something you could never do. Don't try me.

You dont know what I can and cant do and u never will