Atheist or hate

[Fervid]

So then you're not a follower. You just don't understand religion. You threw it in the bushes before you could even gasp a deep understanding. Not saying you would believe if you studied right now... just saying your hate for it is unwarranted and misguided.

No, I don't understand religion at all and I don't think a"deep understanding" would be beneficial to me. Everything I've learned about the world since my adolescence has strengthened my view on most religions. I say most because there is one form of Buddhism that is to me.

 

[Poppa_Dock]

i agree that the new style of athiesm is pretty corny and seems like its just blatent hating but a lot of that has to do with the fact that younger people are starting to think this way so its taking on that funny/disrespectful tone.

I don't even debate these topics anymore bc we can all read about history, we all know these books were written, re-written/stolen from all walks of life and corners of shythole societies 3000 years ago. They don't mean anything now and if you are following them, or hating on others for not following them you are only hurting yourself in 2013.

 

[Blackking]

No, I don't understand religion at all and I don't think a"deep understanding" would be beneficial to me. Everything I've learned about the world since my adolescence has strengthened my view on most religions. I say most because there is one form of Buddhism that is to me.

I suggest you become a Buddhist because misguided hate is something that should be controlled.

Maybe I'm missing something; but even if I was an atheist, I wouldn't hate religion and it wouldn't bother me that most people are religious because most religious people mean well.

NTM, only on the internet are most religious people these woman oppressing, science hating, ignorant, devote people that don't do anything unless God tells them to in their sleep.
Human's are the way they are because of human nature. The average person you meet is religious. The average person is just a normal person just trying to live their life, who isn't out their attempting to oppress the lives of the poor oppressed but 'free thinking' atheist.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

I suggest you become a Buddhist because misguided hate is something that should be controlled.

Maybe I'm missing something; but even if I was an atheist, I wouldn't hate religion and it wouldn't bother me that most people are religious because most religious people mean well.

NTM, only on the internet are most religious people these woman oppressing, science hating, ignorant, devote people that don't do anything unless God tells them to in their sleep.
Human's are the way they are because of human nature. The average person you meet is religious. The average person is just a normal person just trying to live their life, who isn't out their attempting to oppress the lives of the poor oppressed but 'free thinking' atheist.

Islamists: Two stoned to death for committing adultery in Mali - CNN.com

 

[mbewane]

I hate anti intellectual institutions that celebrate ignorance and that assert ridiculous ideas without evidence.

Basically...this goes for everything, meaning it includes other forms of propaganda and political populism.

 

[Blackking]

no, youre ignoring that we see the results of religion in our day to day lives... I dont have to be a chemist to know that poison is dangerous...

Most of the things that we see as a result of religion we either don't notice or take for granted.

Even with All the mass murders and fukkery that religion has caused ( really caused by human motivations of power and greed - but for the sake of this convo we can pretend it was religion).... Even with all the dumb things we have due to being in a religious world, we have gained so much because from religion.

Look at the majority of people who brought freedom and civil rights to the world and especially America. we should be glad these people were suffering from the mental illness of believing in God and actually used that a basis in their belief and motivation to go against the grain to sacrifice for rights.

If I was an atheist and I didn't truly understand humans or history , I guess I would also assume that some of the things I enjoy from my society and culture has came from religion.

To put it in term u all can understand (considering the fact that atheist = scientist)... the evolution of human thinking and society has advanced sorta like natural selection.

If we are early humans and there's a group that has ideas based on organization, family, structure, discipline, morals, and faith/hope.... and you have whatever alternatives to chose from... Which one do you choose to advance your species as a whole. I think the choice of obvious and still is. The choice may not be as relevant in 2013, but to completely Hate the choice we made as humans, is to ignore everything we enjoy today as a result of the choices we've made. We can't say that religion has held us back because we have nothing to based that sh1t on; All we have is history that teaches us that religious people have made the majority of the advancements in science, art, technology, and sociology - and the advancements made by non-religious people were all made in the framework of things supported and created by religious people/institutions.

 

[Blackking]

Islamists: Two stoned to death for committing adultery in Mali - CNN.com

Accident (fallacy) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Accident (fallacy) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

you seriously think this is an exception?

 

[Blackking]

you seriously think this is an exception?

No, it's not... ur right. I could learn a lot from you guys.

I think that 2 billion Muslims are willing to kill someone because they got some p*ssy outside of marriage. All 2 billion of them, including myself, think about doing this sort of sh1t on the daily basis. As a matter of fact the Quran actually does say to stone someone for things like this. Islam is the only belief system, religious or otherwise, that has radical believers.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

No, it's not... ur right. I could learn a lot from you guys.

I think that 2 billion Muslims are willing to kill someone because they got some p*ssy outside of marriage. All 2 billion of them, including myself, think about doing this sort of sh1t on the daily basis. As a matter of fact the Quran actually does say to stone someone for things like this. Islam is the only belief system, religious or otherwise, that has radical believers.

do you really think we're singling out islam?

 

[Blackking]

do you really think we're singling out islam?

No, all religious people are just itching to stone muthfackas.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

No, all religious people are just itching to stone muthfackas.

really? that's the extent of the problem you see?

Back in another thread, we spoke on "religious accountability." When are y'all going to take accountability and admit

- the vast majority of your religious doctrine is b*stardized by the vast majority of your followers (describes the action)
- the vast majority of your religious doctrine is not understood by the vast majority of your followers (describes the thought)
- the vast majority of your religious doctrine is not agreed upon by the vast majority of your followers (describes dissension)

That's all. That's it. I see a link like that, and see that action as disgusting and deplorable. You see a link like that and automatically assume we're creating a strawman. This shyt happens dude. Just admit it. Take accountability for it. And address it through the peaceful virtuous words that your doctrine is supposed to teach. Drop some knowledge and insight on what passage they could've possibly misconstrued.

Either way, you're clearly wasting your time. Stop arguing with US, the folks who look down upon that shyt. Start arguing with the people who trash your beliefs because of their own personal insecurities. Argue with people who create a false perception of your God by hiding behind their "personal relationship" with him. Educate and foster enlightenment.

I'm sure you'll end up seeing what we see over time.

 

[Blackking]

really? that's the extent of the problem you see?

Back in another thread, we spoke on "religious accountability." When are y'all going to take accountability and admit

- the vast majority of your religious doctrine is b*stardized by the vast majority of your followers (describes the action)
- the vast majority of your religious doctrine is not understood by the vast majority of your followers (describes the thought)
- the vast majority of your religious doctrine is not agreed upon by the vast majority of your followers (describes dissension)

That's all. That's it. I see a link like that, and see that action as disgusting and deplorable. You see a link like that and automatically assume we're creating a strawman. This shyt happens dude. Just admit it. Take accountability for it. And address it through the peaceful virtuous words that your doctrine is supposed to teach. Drop some knowledge and insight on what passage they could've possibly misconstrued.

Either way, you're clearly wasting your time. Stop arguing with US, the folks who look down upon that shyt. Start arguing with the people who trash your beliefs because of their own personal insecurities. Argue with people who create a false perception of your God by hiding behind their "personal relationship" with him. Educate and foster enlightenment.

I'm sure you'll end up seeing what we see over time.

Thanks for the advice. I will think about becoming atheist... to protect myself from committing horrid violent actions. I see now, that that's the only way a human can avoid doing these things you speak of. In the meantime I will generalize entire groups of people........... but I will say it's not a strawman.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Thanks for the advice. I will think about becoming atheist... to protect myself from committing horrid violent actions. I see now, that that's the only way a human can avoid doing these things you speak of. In the meantime I will generalize entire groups of people........... but I will say it's not a strawman.

Really? thats what you got out of what I said.

whatever, continue to turn a blind out to the internal demons within your community...that always strengthens the cause

good day sir

 

[Blackking]

Really? thats what you got out of what I said.

whatever, continue to turn a blind out to the internal demons within your community...that always strengthens the cause

good day sir

What does internal 'demons' mean?

Anyway, I don't have a community other than the black community. But as far as religion goes.... it's just like everything else. There will always be a fridge group.