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Napoleon said:
I don't know what a 'g-d' is. You're a jackass.
Atheism is destroying black minds.
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That is the original point you are saying its the bible and religion im saying its the civil war I want to hear why you disagree.
Field Marshall Bradley
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It really is though. Thats why the white man is so adamant about attacking religion these days. Religion imparts and particular ideology and fosters group think around that idea(s), then brings those like minds together to direct their energy. Religion is a very useful socio-cultural political tool. In fact, religion is a political institution and science.
The Greco-Romans and the Pharisees recognized that religion was so important, they invented a false faith and subverted their old political systems (the Basilica and Ekklesia) and injected religion the poisonous false messiahnic ideology into their statecraft, and with that they also inculcated Jerusalem a holy city (when it previously meant nothing in the Greco-Roman world, as Byzantium\Constantino-polis was their sacred city.) And ever since then, they've had the Europeans fighting their wars, and conquering lands (and subjugating peoples) in the name of the Judahist Messiah.And the Greco-Romans started messing with time adopting the BC\AD timeline and working to make things fit into a historical framework congruent with their new timeline.
Similarly you'll find that Jerusalem meant nothing among the Arabs, and neither did King Solomon, but with the alleged Mohammedian revelations they Judahist Israelites are elevated and Sura-al-Isra introduces the idea of Jerusalem as a holy place, and next thing you know the so called "Mohammedans" (consisting of Turks, Africans, "Arabs", and other Orientals) have an affinity for Jerusalem. And they Muslims played with time too, by adopting adopting the alleged Hijra.
I almost feel like both Christianity-Catholicism and "Islam" are Freemasonic. And Freemasonry is a Judahist-Zionistic religion associated with the Solomonic Temple of David. Which would explain the elevation of King Solomon in the two books of the respective faiths. Do not know how much this has to
So they come with a new thoughtform, propaganda and they re-invent the timeline, which causes utter confusion. And when you analyze the world and history, you do so from a skewed perspective. We really don't know when or where we are.
There's no God but God....I know no prophets.
How has that religion worked out for us.... say the past 500 years or so?
They did use it as a tool
MLK JR
He knew there was one way to get the majority of the sheep to unify and spoke through religion
When you look at the actions that made him a great man they all contradict religion more specifically the faith he used as a tool to control and unite people
Christianty condones slavery, incest, murder
Have any of you read the bible lol?
So you get the idea then
The rest of what you said is irrelevant since I wasn't even saying you actually have to believe in god to use Christianity to mobilize people and spread your own agenda
Great analogy,they'd rather look crazy and waste time yelling at the fire than forge
Devilinurear
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follow the same religion that your slave masters had.
It's sad that African Americans embrace a religion that was used to enslave us. And it's not even an original religion...it's one that was stolen from other religions. Black people are so uneducated when it comes to our history, evolution and sciences. We embrace the belief system of our ancestor's slave masters.
The black church has collected billions of dollars to worship a god that the white man used to control other men. Imagine if we invested those billions into our communities, schools, local farms, etc... We would become a thinking proactive group of people. Instead there is a church on every corner in the black community (right across the street from the liquor store and the payday loan company) and nothing but poverty, unemployment and drugs.
You black christians worship like myopic slaves and continue our economic future of slavery (we are the largest consumers of stuff that has no value).
The black church has collected billions of dollars to worship a god that the white man used to control other men. Imagine if we invested those billions into our communities, schools, local farms, etc... We would become a thinking proactive group of people. Instead there is a church on every corner in the black community (right across the street from the liquor store and the payday loan company) and nothing but poverty, unemployment and drugs.
You black christians worship like myopic slaves and continue our economic future of slavery (we are the largest consumers of stuff that has no value).
Ghost_In_A_Shell
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I am bored as fukk so I will play along......
As to your first point, the bible does not specifically condemn the practice of slavery. Actually researching the subject would prove quite differently - the following quotes prove to be such ;
Exodus Chapter 21, verse 1:
Now these are the ordinances which you shall set before them. When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing. If he comes in single, he shall go out single; if he comes in married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall be her master's and he shall go out alone. But if the slave plainly says, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free,' then his master shall bring him to God, and he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost; and his master shall bore his ear through with an awl; and he shall serve him for life.
Exodus Chapter 21, verse 20:
If a man beats his male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies as a direct result, he must be punished, but he is not to be punished if the slave gets up after a day or two, since the slave is his property.
Leviticus Chapter 25, verse 44:
Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
The bible permits where you got your slaves, regardless the destruction that would happen to the communities that those slaves came from or the slaves themselves. It also says that you can enslave refugees that live in your community.The bible gives you permission to pass on the enslaved human beings as 'inherited property' and make them slaves for life
Luke, Chapter 7, verse 2:
Now a centurion had a slave who was dear to him, who was sick and at the point of death. When he heard of Jesus, he sent to him elders of the Jews, asking him to come and heal his slave. And when they came to Jesus, they besought him earnestly, saying, "He is worthy to have you do this for him, for he loves our nation, and he built us our synagogue." And Jesus went with them. When he was not far from the house, the centurion sent friends to him, saying to him, "Lord, do not trouble yourself, for I am not worthy to have you come under my roof; therefore I did not presume to come to you. But say the word, and let my servant be healed. For I am a man set under authority, with soldiers under me: and I say to one, 'Go,' and he goes; and to another, 'Come,' and he comes; and to my slave, 'Do this,' and he does it." When Jesus heard this he marveled at him, and turned and said to the multitude that followed him, "I tell you, not even in Israel have I found such faith." And when those who had been sent returned to the house, they found the slave well.
Colossians, chapter 3, verse 22:
Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but in singleness of heart, fearing the Lord. Whatever your task, work heartily...
Jesus shows that he is in complete acceptance of a slave's position, and encourages slaves to work hard. This sentiment is repeated in Titus, chapter 2 verse 9:
Bid slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect; they are not to be refractory, nor to pilfer, but to show entire and true fidelity.
The Southern Evangelical pro-slavery defenders always placed emphasis upon a literal reading of the Bible which represented the mind and will of God himself. Slaveholding , as you can read for yourself from the text pulled above , was not only justified but also moral because it of plenty of evidence that support it in the bible. In God's Word, the "creator of the universe" states that slavery is perfectly acceptable. Beating your slaves is fine. Enslaving children is fine. Separating slave families is fine.
You second point is also inaccurate to say the very least- the Quran did not prohibit slavery, but accepted the pre-islamic institution of slavery. Proof for this statement can be seen in the following verse from the Quran;
33.50
Sahih International
O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those your right hand possesses from what Allah has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her, [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.
The verse above represent in the Quran the multiple references to slaves, slave women, and slave concubinage. It may be noted that the word 'abd' (slave) is rarely used, being more commonly replaced by some periphrasis such as ma malakat aymanukum ("that which your right hands own"). Islam , as you can see did was not 'prohibited' as you falsely put it , but embraced the age-old practice with open arms and gave it a divine validation. It is groundless to claim that Islam closed the door to slavery or took the first step toward its abolition. In the Quran, 'Allah' repeatedly gave approval of slavery as part of His divine plan, which must stand until the end of the world.
And finally, to address your last statement, can I ask you the the following question;
What do you think the 'persons' ,be it colonial imperialist or jihadist , use to justify their actions , no matter how obscene?
The answer is whatever at hand that supports their ideology. It doesn't matter if its the constitution or the Kuran , there lurks a Torquemada behind any doctrine, able to commit whatever crime they want because 'god told them so'. So what I ask you , what good is any doctrine interpretation if that very same doctrine not only inspires obscenity but has the obscenity printed literally in its pages. Consider the Kuran again on the subject slavery-from the quotes that I have given, you can see that that doctrine advocated slavery.And then I ask you to look at the jihadist group known as Isis. Isis invaders executed hundreds of Yazidi men and kidnapped as many as 2,000 women and children a couple of months ago. They justified their actions by using that same exact Kuran, using the sayings of the prophet and traditional Islamic law to endorse the enslavement of 'infidel' women captured in wartime. How can, in this case ,their be a problem with 'interpretation' when the Kuran itself shows many examples of their actions and okays them?
The mind is to be destroyed, only the body remains.
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You don't need religion to be spiritual. I don't need to attend church weekly to be a good person either. I can make a bathroom a holy place of prayer if I wanted. My spirituality is a relationship between myself and the god I choose to believe in. All I see in the organized religions, is bullshyt and hypocrisy.
5 years ago you could tell me nothing about Jedus or church didn't want to hear it.
Now o go weekly and I'm getting baptized the end of the month
Now o go weekly and I'm getting baptized the end of the month