Religion/Spirituality Atheism Discussion

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What does this have to do with god actually existing or not?

And Hitler was Catholic. Stop saying that shyt.

And further, all of these leaders were treated as deities themselves. You don't have to be an abrahamic religion to be "religious"

Yes he was, that's why he persecuted the Catholic church after taking power :mjlol: Being treated as a deity /= to being a deity. It goes back to what I think @Thsnnor said, that people usually end up replacing God with another person/object, humans have an innate need to attribute superhuman powers/life source powers to SOMETHING. And to anybody talking about the Scandinavian countries, Norway is 83% Christian :mjpls:
 

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madd abortion and homosexuality


those are the 2 biggest issues i've personally seen atheist fight for

and those in power would just end up deifying their wealth as they always have

you think the people who put all those religious symbols on money, are believers in a Creator? nah.. they hate the Creator (or the idea of one), like most atheists
 

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In an atheist society the reasons people kill would be more obvious.

*because i dont like him*

*because i want his land *

*because i want their resources*

It would be the exact same.
 

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you think the people who put all those religious symbols on money, are believers in a Creator? nah.. they hate the Creator (or the idea of one), like most atheists

Exactly

Nihilist use religion to commit evils everyday.
 

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Exactly

Nihilist use religion to commit evils everyday.


the problem is the continued belief in the myriad of false (manipulated) religions, and the lack of a religion which can prove itself to be the true religion. If there was never one that existed those same Nihilist would be correct for doing what they are doing.
 

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the problem is the continued belief in the myriad of false (manipulated) religions, and the lack of a religion which can prove itself to be the true religion. If there was never one that existed those same Nihilist would be correct for doing what they are doing.

:what:
 

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Scientific evidence seems to increasingly suggest that we are hardwired with an ethical impulse. I don't think the answers would vary as much as you think. :ld:
lol, no it doesn't.

We created a bunch of bull shyt religions and other systems for a reason
 

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you cant really judge an all atheist society by the kinds of atheists we have in america today. these are typically smart critical thinkers and well behaved people because they are so rare and somewhat disadvantaged socially. if they become the norm, all the normal human behaviors then get channeled through a lack of belief which in some ways may be different, but in other ways may be the same.

right now, most inmates and racists are religious, but in an atheist society, obviously that would change. i think there would be a reduction in racism and crime, but it wont go away completely because you can find "rational" reasons to be a racist or a criminal.

you can look at sam harris' attitudes toward muslims for an example of how we can still end up with tribal/racial/fascist/intolerant attitudes in an atheist dominated society. not to say he is a racist or anything, but in his philosophical pursuit for solutions to terrorism, he has openly discussed some pretty horrific things (like nuking muslims). the journey to settling group hostilities may be different, but it wont mean much if the results still lead to violence, suspicion, and oppression.

we would even see a continuing misogyny as the last few years have shown that some women feel atheist conventions are hostile to women, and even unsafe. ultimately, men are going to look for excuses to objectify women in even the most inappropriate settings, and many of them probably dont even think women can be "real" geeks, nerds, or whatever.

i still think it could produce a net positive for society since we would channel our money and resources toward things that are practical and we wouldnt let superstitions keep us from doing smart things like teaching real sex ed, and we might be less inclined to want to punish people and focus more on rights and rehabilitation (see the chart on torture attitudes) but ultimately, the scarcity of resources and human evolution will demand some degree of conflict, so there will never be utopia.
 

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Yes he was, that's why he persecuted the Catholic church after taking power :mjlol: Being treated as a deity /= to being a deity. It goes back to what I think @Thsnnor said, that people usually end up replacing God with another person/object, humans have an innate need to attribute superhuman powers/life source powers to SOMETHING. And to anybody talking about the Scandinavian countries, Norway is 83% Christian :mjpls:
What are you saying right now?

I seriously don't understand your point.

People do fukked up things regardless of the amount of power they hold.

What does this have to do with your deity existing?
 
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