Religion/Spirituality Atheism Discussion

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Blackking said:
lol, The project I'm working on in conjunction with writing 'writing', is beyond anything that you could do - that can warrant you trying to correct my spelling on a damn forum.

That's nice. You still misspelled a relatively easy word which renders your entire diatribe about doing something 'beyond anything I could do' completely baseless. Hell, I can misspell anything without trying....A-N-Y-T-H-I-N-C <====See?

Blackking said:
And religion is an organized collection of beliefs, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to the supernatural, and to spirituality. So because I just defined it - does that make you retarded by default?? :pachaha:

You just left out those religions that have NOTHING to do with the 'supernatural' or 'spirituality'.

:sitdown:

I ain't retarded, but.....:umad:
 

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Confident that when you die, there is nothing. That your makeup and existence is completely obliterated. I dont think thats something you can prove. But you'll get all the proof you need, one day. :sitdown:

I'm pretty confident that no human being past or present has lived to be 900+ years old and that snakes can't speak a language that we can understand....


I'm also pretty confident that every so called prophet known to man was either a manipulative liar, insane or just a prick who liked trolling people.


:manny:
 

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I'm pretty confident that no human being past or present has lived to be 900+ years old and that snakes can't speak a language that we can understand....


I'm also pretty confident that every so called prophet known to man was either a manipulative liar, insane or just a prick who liked trolling people.


:manny:
Maybe prophets provided life lessons and guidance. Maybe their aim wasn't to be evil or manipulative. They didn't have mega-churches and Bentleys.. their lives were always at risk... so isn't it possible that their intentions were good?
 

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I'm pretty confident that no human being past or present has lived to be 900+ years old and that snakes can't speak a language that we can understand....


I'm also pretty confident that every so called prophet known to man was either a manipulative liar, insane or just a prick who liked trolling people.


:manny:

Maybe prophets provided life lessons and guidance. Maybe their aim wasn't to be evil or manipulative. They didn't have mega-churches and Bentleys.. their lives were always at risk... so isn't it possible that their intentions were good?

The fact that the prophets went through various mood swings just proves that they were human. Heck Moses had public speaking problems and had to use Aaron as his mouthpiece.

Has there ever been any leader that wasn't considered crazy by some? Even if you take CEO's like Steve Jobs. You have plenty of people who say he was an arrogant, crazy a$$hole. It takes a strong willed person to get people to do things. It's never going to be the person that is "normal" because no one will listen.
 

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I'm pretty confident that no human being past or present has lived to be 900+ years old and that snakes can't speak a language that we can understand....


I'm also pretty confident that every so called prophet known to man was either a manipulative liar, insane or just a prick who liked trolling people.


:manny:

The thread topic is about what happens when you die though. I guess you've checked out of your own topic? :dahell:
 

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Yeah. You're an idiot.

I asked you simply what a spirit was and where its located and all you can do is say that you want to equate buddhism to the burden of proof.

WE WOULD LOVE TO DISCOVER THAT THIS THING CALLED A SOUL/SPIRIT EXISTS

Any new knowledge is GAINED knowledge.

But you're not showing anything. You're not an idiot for believing in this shyt. You're an idiot for not proving anything you're saying.

How the fukk am I supposed to prove to u there is a spirit? Your an idiot cause even with your education u still have no class. Can't even have a discussion on a forum without insulting people and you supposed to be some kind of authority on how the world works? I'm supposed to prove shyt to some almighty poster on the coli?

:rudy: grow up.
 

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Maybe prophets provided life lessons and guidance. Maybe their aim wasn't to be evil or manipulative. They didn't have mega-churches and Bentleys.. their lives were always at risk... so isn't it possible that their intentions were good?

none of these guys had any more contact with divine beings than me or you man.
 

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How the fukk am I supposed to prove to u there is a spirit? Your an idiot cause even with your education u still have no class. Can't even have a discussion on a forum without insulting people and you supposed to be some kind of authority on how the world works? I'm supposed to prove shyt to some almighty poster on the coli?

:rudy: grow up.

I don't care about how much I hurt your feelings.

If you say something, back it up.

I have no problem demonstrating to you things that are true, real, or valid.

You shouldn't have that issue. You can't just keep acting like the reason people don't believe you is because they don't want to.

if you can put me on game, do so. But don't expect me to lower my standards of evidence because you lack ANY.
 

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I don't care about how much I hurt your feelings.

If you say something, back it up.

I have no problem demonstrating to you things that are true, real, or valid.

You shouldn't have that issue. You can't just keep acting like the reason people don't believe you is because they don't want to.

if you can put me on game, do so. But don't expect me to lower my standards of evidence because you lack ANY.

My feelings aren't hurt, I just think it's such a little kid thing to do calling names when u can't agree. That makes me see i really don't have to prove shyt to u, you're a child.

Maybe the spirit isn't a physical thing that can be weighed or measured. Maybe there is no way of me proving it to an intelligent (:pachaha:) person like u. But i do know that every religion or culture in the history of mankind, no matter what time period, region, or overall thinking does agree on 1 thing. There is a spirit /soul. They disagree on what happens with it when u die but they all agree one part of us lives on. Can it be proved? No. Not yet. But dont act like you know everything you little arrogant kid.

Like I said, grow up.
 

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Consider the famous two-slit experiment. When you watch a particle go through the holes, it behaves like a bullet, passing through one slit or the other. But if no one observes the particle, it exhibits the behavior of a wave and can pass through both slits at the same time. This and other experiments tell us that unobserved particles exist only as &#8216;waves of probability' as the great Nobel laureate Max Born demonstrated in 1926. They're statistical predictions &#8211; nothing but a likely outcome. Until observed, they have no real existence; only when the mind sets the scaffolding in place, can they be thought of as having duration or a position in space. Experiments make it increasingly clear that even mere knowledge in the experimenter's mind is sufficient to convert possibility to reality.

Many scientists dismiss the implications of these experiments, because until recently, this observer-dependent behavior was thought to be confined to the subatomic world. However, this is being challenged by researchers around the world. In fact, just this year a team of physicists (Gerlich et al, Nature Communications 2:263, 2011) showed that quantum weirdness also occurs in the human-scale world. They studied huge compounds composed of up to 430 atoms, and confirmed that this strange quantum behavior extends into the larger world we live in.

Importantly, this has a direct bearing on the question of whether humans and other living creatures have souls. As Kant pointed out over 200 years ago, everything we experience &#8211; including all the colors, sensations and objects we perceive &#8211; are nothing but representations in our mind. Space and time are simply the mind's tools for putting it all together. Now, to the amusement of idealists, scientists are beginning dimly to recognize that those rules make existence itself possible. Indeed, the experiments above suggest that objects only exist with real properties if they are observed. The results not only defy our classical intuition, but suggest that a part of the mind &#8211; the soul &#8211; is immortal and exists outside of space and time.

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