AskHind - Why Don't You Care About Darfur?

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Link if you can find it, al-Jazeera has posted quite a bit about the "Darfur conflict," especially in regard to the opposition to calling it what it was: a genocide.

I find the 'intention' element of genocide really strange. For instance, if you merely wanted to push an ethnic group off their land and you end up killing 3/4 of them, that's technically not genocide. Just another 'crime against humanity' in all likelihood.

 

[Frieza]

@Misreeya OT but what kind of Arabic do you speak in North Sudan? Is it mutually intelligible like Khaleeji and Levantine Arabic or is it vastly different like Maghrebi Arabic?

 

[The Singularity]

Link if you can find it, al-Jazeera has posted quite a bit about the "Darfur conflict," especially in regard to the opposition to calling it what it was: a genocide.

I can't find it..This is another Al Jazeera doc, its equally good.

 

[Misreeya]

@Misreeya OT but what kind of Arabic do you speak in North Sudan? Is it mutually intelligible like Khaleeji and Levantine Arabic or is it vastly different like Maghrebi Arabic?

Lol I am not a "Arabic" expert because my Arabic is lousy. However from talking to people it is more closer to Khaleeji or places like parts of Saudi Arabia or Yemen. I would think our Arabic would be closer to egyptian but I hear it's not. One thing I noticed about egyptian Arabic they pronounced the letter "jeem" which sounds like the English letter "J" to the English equivalent to the "G" sound, which can be confusing if you are not use to it.

 

[EndDomination]

I find the 'intention' element of genocide really strange. For instance, if you merely wanted to push an ethnic group off their land and you end up killing 3/4 of them, that's technically not genocide. Just another 'crime against humanity' in all likelihood.

Samantha Power gave a pretty good explanation for it in her book a Problem from Hell.
International conflict classifications are hellholes.

 

[BigMan]

@Misreeya OT but what kind of Arabic do you speak in North Sudan? Is it mutually intelligible like Khaleeji and Levantine Arabic or is it vastly different like Maghrebi Arabic?

Why would magrebi be so different

Lol I am not a "Arabic" expert because my Arabic is lousy. However from talking to people it is more closer to Khaleeji or places like parts of Saudi Arabia or Yemen. I would think our Arabic would be closer to egyptian but I hear it's not. One thing I noticed about egyptian Arabic they pronounced the letter "jeem" which sounds like the English letter "J" to the English equivalent to the "G" sound, which can be confusing if you are not use to it.

doesent Sudanese Arabic have substantial African influence

 

[Frieza]

Why would magrebi be so different

It's a very strong 'dialect' if you can even call it that. Some Arabs don't even really consider it proper 'Arabic' because it has a lot of Berber (native) and European (French/Spanish the most I believe) influence. It's somewhat intelligible but I think most other Arabs (even their neighbours to a lesser extent) would struggle to hold a conversation. The Egyptian media sphere has a strong influence on Arab media consumption including Morocco. So Moroccans have a much easier time understanding the rest of the Arab world but the same does not apply vice versa. I'm also 99% sure they teach 'Modern Standard Arabic' aka standardised Arabic across all Arab countries in schools.
Even as a non-speaker you can kinda tell Moroccan Arabic apart from Khaleeji or Levantine Arabic after a while.

 

[SonnyEMC]

Lol I am not a "Arabic" expert because my Arabic is lousy. However from talking to people it is more closer to Khaleeji or places like parts of Saudi Arabia or Yemen. I would think our Arabic would be closer to egyptian but I hear it's not. One thing I noticed about egyptian Arabic they pronounced the letter "jeem" which sounds like the English letter "J" to the English equivalent to the "G" sound, which can be confusing if you are not use to it.

Yemenis do the same.

 

[SonnyEMC]

It's a very strong 'dialect' if you can even call it that. Some Arabs don't even really consider it proper 'Arabic' because it has a lot of Berber (native) and European (French/Spanish the most I believe) influence. It's somewhat intelligible but I think most other Arabs (even their neighbours to a lesser extent) would struggle to hold a conversation. The Egyptian media sphere has a strong influence on Arab media consumption including Morocco. So Moroccans have a much easier time understanding the rest of the Arab world but the same does not apply vice versa. I'm also 99% sure they teach 'Modern Standard Arabic' aka standardised Arabic across all Arab countries in schools.
Even as a non-speaker you can kinda tell Moroccan Arabic apart from Khaleeji or Levantine Arabic after a while.

Pretty much all Moroccans speak a more standard Arabic as well as 'Darija', they usually purposefully speak that to confuse people lol.

 

[thatrapsfan]

Lol I am not a "Arabic" expert because my Arabic is lousy. However from talking to people it is more closer to Khaleeji or places like parts of Saudi Arabia or Yemen. I would think our Arabic would be closer to egyptian but I hear it's not. One thing I noticed about egyptian Arabic they pronounced the letter "jeem" which sounds like the English letter "J" to the English equivalent to the "G" sound, which can be confusing if you are not use to it.

Sudani accent sounds very similar to the Hijazi accent in Saudi. Youtube how people in Jeddah speak.