As Black People, Where did we go wrong and Where do we continue to go wrong?
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CriticalThought
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We didn't go wrong. We went RIGHT that's where the problems came from.
The moment Black America's moves starting going international, something had to be done to stop the spread. That was the final straw.
In my opinion, the problem was Black leadership (across the board) failing in taking to account how our movements would have blowback. No institutions or programs to defend against the inevitable counterattack.
King wasn't really a problem when he going against Jewish slumlords or segregated facilities. But when he spoke out against the Vietnam war it was problematic. You don't say "my country is the greatest purveyor of violence..." and think that won't turn heads. Add in Muhammad Ali "No Vietcong ever called me ******". These aren't regular Black folks, people worldwide knew them and they stood tall and took lashes for what they believed.
Look at the Black Panthers for example: it helped inspire the American Indian Movement and Brown Berets. They helped birth the "Dalit Panthers" in India, the BPP in Australia. Kicked it with revolutionaries like Zapatistas in Mexico, North Koreans and etc...they were worldwide.
Look where Robert Williams was, look where George Wright was, and Assata for example. They still had Panthers living in Libya before the overthrow.
So to be honest, it doesn't surprise me one bit Black America is in the state it's in. If you only look at the local level, but don't read history you'll never truly understand what happened. And to be honest, I can't blame them. Imagine where we'd be if we hadn't been "neutralized" for the last 4-5 decades? shyt, they at least would have overthrown at least 1 or 2 governments if left to their own devices. Probably more than that.
There's been a resistance/revolutionary gene that's been in us for centuries. So they came up with a brilliant idea. You can't get it out of them, but they could steer where that energy went. And guess what, they've used it against us. And it's been fukking us up too. Every once in awhile a new ideology gets slipped in to create further division amongst us (feminism, colorism and etc.) to ensure we no longer pose a threat to their order because we're too busy fighting ourselves now. Which makes it easier to manipulate us in the long run by outside forces.
That's a major reason we're doing so bad. Just because you might not know what your folks have done, doesn't mean other people don't. It wasn't a particular individual, group or movement, resistance came across the spectrum. So the only really effective way to end it all for them, was to drop us all...and unfortunately it was effective.
The moment Black America's moves starting going international, something had to be done to stop the spread. That was the final straw.
In my opinion, the problem was Black leadership (across the board) failing in taking to account how our movements would have blowback. No institutions or programs to defend against the inevitable counterattack.
King wasn't really a problem when he going against Jewish slumlords or segregated facilities. But when he spoke out against the Vietnam war it was problematic. You don't say "my country is the greatest purveyor of violence..." and think that won't turn heads. Add in Muhammad Ali "No Vietcong ever called me ******". These aren't regular Black folks, people worldwide knew them and they stood tall and took lashes for what they believed.
Look at the Black Panthers for example: it helped inspire the American Indian Movement and Brown Berets. They helped birth the "Dalit Panthers" in India, the BPP in Australia. Kicked it with revolutionaries like Zapatistas in Mexico, North Koreans and etc...they were worldwide.
Look where Robert Williams was, look where George Wright was, and Assata for example. They still had Panthers living in Libya before the overthrow.
So to be honest, it doesn't surprise me one bit Black America is in the state it's in. If you only look at the local level, but don't read history you'll never truly understand what happened. And to be honest, I can't blame them. Imagine where we'd be if we hadn't been "neutralized" for the last 4-5 decades? shyt, they at least would have overthrown at least 1 or 2 governments if left to their own devices. Probably more than that.
There's been a resistance/revolutionary gene that's been in us for centuries. So they came up with a brilliant idea. You can't get it out of them, but they could steer where that energy went. And guess what, they've used it against us. And it's been fukking us up too. Every once in awhile a new ideology gets slipped in to create further division amongst us (feminism, colorism and etc.) to ensure we no longer pose a threat to their order because we're too busy fighting ourselves now. Which makes it easier to manipulate us in the long run by outside forces.
That's a major reason we're doing so bad. Just because you might not know what your folks have done, doesn't mean other people don't. It wasn't a particular individual, group or movement, resistance came across the spectrum. So the only really effective way to end it all for them, was to drop us all...and unfortunately it was effective.
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Jmb4life said:
April 4, 1968.
IceManJones
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Damn........ That really hurts my soul
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Thinking that black conditions cannot be attributed partially due to black people own hand is counterproducive and hold black peoole back.
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Self_Born7
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thats easy, lacking the true knowledge of ourselves, and let this cac condition and brainwash you into believing you were inferior to him.
Matriarchy Refugee
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I swear yall dudes think everything was Cosby show status in the past and then big bad demon rap ruined everything 
if everything was so great why did the civil rights movement occur in the first place?
if everything was so great why did the civil rights movement occur in the first place?
Greenstrings
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People love to say this but I've never seen it substantiated. Where is the evidence? Where is the study that shows black people that believe in white supremacy don't try as hard? In fact where is any study demonstrating that black people aren't striving towards progress?
Even a cursory glance at history tells us that the black condition is not self inflicted, where is the proof that accepting this makes us weak?
Do you not see how it could very well be the opposite? How ignoring history and using the immediate present as an isolated bellwether buys into the idea that black people are fatally flawed and destined to enact their own downfall?
Deezy314619
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I had this debate with the og's last week heavy. Take a step back first. If we throw Jim Crow and share cropping under the 'slavery' umbrella our ppl were still slaves less than 100 years ago. I think we don't understand the strides we've had since after WW2 especially since King and Malcolm.
the black family has always experienced racism
lol at a internet character, because I don't agree with your idiotic rhetoric I'm a troll
fail to see the corrleation between the destruction of the black family unit and the crime, drugs and violence that has ravished the black community idiot
Red Shield
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Yep.
Take a group of people that always rise up with a creative/revolutionary fire in them, that can inspire other groups around the world. This group is constantly calling out one of the two superpowers in the 60s. Making this country not look like what the propaganda says it is...
The only thing we could be faulted for is, not understanding that we were/are at war and who our enemy is. I think if we would have been on a war footing, we wouldn't have gotten rolled so badly
But what's done is done.
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I trained Sheng Long and Shonuff
One word: crack
After I started reading a lot about black history, I kept asking myself what happened between the 60s and the 90s when I was running the streets
And eventually it hit me......it was crack. Growing up in NYC we seen crackheads everywhere and I knew so many dudes that was moving rock back then. I had friends whose parents were crack heads and literally raised themselves from the age of 12.
Add to that the fukked up policies of the federal, state, and local government it was a perfect storm for the destruction of an entire race of people. Crack was one of the most destructive forces to hit black America.
After I started reading a lot about black history, I kept asking myself what happened between the 60s and the 90s when I was running the streets
And eventually it hit me......it was crack. Growing up in NYC we seen crackheads everywhere and I knew so many dudes that was moving rock back then. I had friends whose parents were crack heads and literally raised themselves from the age of 12.
Add to that the fukked up policies of the federal, state, and local government it was a perfect storm for the destruction of an entire race of people. Crack was one of the most destructive forces to hit black America.