even the NBA is like, yeah sorry about these matchups
A game between a 1 seed and 3 seed with a possible MVP candidate being involved not being considered marquee enough is a failure on the NBA’s part more than anything
As a whole, the NBA has lost around 45% of its viewership since 2012.
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A game between a 1 seed and 3 seed with a possible MVP candidate being involved not being considered marquee enough is a failure on the NBA’s part more than anything
Saysumthinfunnymike
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Part of selling the product is winning.... Jordan doesn't become Jordan if he's averaging 30PPG on a 23-win team. Jordan grew the game through those 6 titles.
The competition and entertainment go hand in hand...
The bigger issue than "too many 3's" is that some of the players aren't as marketable because you have Luka or Jokic who don't give a fukk about the NBA media or trying to be a celebrity in America...
When more American born players start winning more and more (like Tatum and Brown last year) there will be a new wave of fans
The competition and entertainment go hand in hand...
The bigger issue than "too many 3's" is that some of the players aren't as marketable because you have Luka or Jokic who don't give a fukk about the NBA media or trying to be a celebrity in America...
When more American born players start winning more and more (like Tatum and Brown last year) there will be a new wave of fans
2014-15 league average for 3s taken and made was 7.8-22, it is now 13.5-37.5 in 2024. These cats are shooting way more and the percentages have not even gotten better, shyt is an eyesore
21-60 IS 35% WHICH
ISNT "BAD" DUE TO ANALYTICS
BUT YOU SAW ALL OF THOSE MISSES
AND IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT
I CHERRY PICKED A BAD GAME
WHICH PROVES MY POINT.
Saysumthinfunnymike
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If Ant was shooting lights out from 3 combined with dunk highlights and the T'Wolves were 22-5 right now it'd be a major story. If he was putting up similar numbers but on a big market team, major story...
It's not the 3s as much as it's selling celebrities
yeah, I think thats the entire point of the tweetA game between a 1 seed and 3 seed with a possible MVP candidate being involved not being considered marquee enough is a failure on the NBA’s part more than anything
These posts B2B are hilarious.
And yes @FukkaPaidEmail plenty of folks hate/hated Steph for launching 3s. I remember in real time them saying that he wasn't going to win playing that way. shytting on him for being a soft, lightskin jumpshooter. shytting on him because he wouldn't have survived in the 80s/90s.
Y'all are just disingenious with the way y'all shift the argument.
The likes of Ivey and JG would be taking jumpshots, no matter if they were from 3 or from 2, so I don't quite understand how you seem to think the problem is with them taking 3s beyond not liking the shot. I remember folks having a problem with Brandon Jennings thinking he was A.I. taking all those off-balanced long 2s. People didn't find that enjoyable or entertaining. It really doesn't matter, because people are going to find some way to hate, it's what NBA fans do. It's what they'll always do, at least in our lifetime.
I'll add as a sidenote -
Folks talking about how they don't have a problem with Steph shooting 3s, but it's these lesser players shooting 3s that's the problem, well, then how come y'all don't herald DeRozan? How come NOBODY speaks about his play and how others should play like he does? If Ivey and JG are the problem, why isn't DeRozan the answer?
I'll let you marinate on why that is.
Wait, what?
Shooting more shots doesn't mean the percentage should get greater. It's actually more to the contrary. It's remarkable that despite the league exponentially increasing their volume of 3s, the percentage has stayed the same. You'd expect with this increase in volume that there'd be some adjustment with a drop in efficiency, but there hasn't been one. What makes it even more remarkable that the percentage has stayed the same is that teams are actually defending the 3-pt shot now, and players are taking 3s from further out than from where the line actually is.
3-pt percentage has stayed the same despite greater volume and 3s taken from further out.
How exactly is that possibly an eyesore?
It's actually a testament to why shooting high-volume 3s has become a thing now.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
the NBA did that to themselves.
Styles make fights, but a good three point shooting team is a cheat code, same way Golden State was a cheat code, so having more of them has leveled the playing field to a point where we haven't seen a repeat champ in a long time (and I still think we have teams that pride themselves on different identities. Look at the team that beat Denver last year: they prided themselves on defense and length. Orlando can't shoot for shyt but their defense is what makes them unique. The issue with teams that model themselves that way is that Americans inherently hate defense, so while it can fun to watch if you're into it, too many people think defense is the enemy of fun.)
As for the makeup of the players, sure, we wanna see guys that we can relate to, and the 90s, it's like regionalism in rap. NY was represented. LA had their guys. Chicago produced a ton of players. Those players came from high schools you might have attended, gone to colleges you went to, for a while. Basketball is a factory now, Everyone comes from a random place, moves to some other spot to play for a basketball factory and you might wind up at a new school every year til you're a pro and because you're taught how to be calculated with the media, the filter is evident. The NFL still kinda produces those stories. Baseball internationally produces those stories, but basketball used to be the sport where all you needed was a ball a hoop and a dream to make it out. Now these guys feel so far away from what you used to know you resent the players.
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These posts B2B are hilarious.
And yes @FukkaPaidEmail plenty of folks hate/hated Steph for launching 3s. I remember in real time them saying that he wasn't going to win playing that way. shytting on him for being a soft, lightskin jumpshooter. shytting on him because he wouldn't have survived in the 80s/90s.
Y'all are just disingenious with the way y'all shift the argument.
The likes of Ivey and JG would be taking jumpshots, no matter if they were from 3 or from 2, so I don't quite understand how you seem to think the problem is with them taking 3s beyond not liking the shot. I remember folks having a problem with Brandon Jennings thinking he was A.I. taking all those off-balanced long 2s. People didn't find that enjoyable or entertaining. It really doesn't matter, because people are going to find some way to hate, it's what NBA fans do. It's what they'll always do, at least in our lifetime.
I'll add as a sidenote -
Folks talking about how they don't have a problem with Steph shooting 3s, but it's these lesser players shooting 3s that's the problem, well, then how come y'all don't herald DeRozan? How come NOBODY speaks about his play and how others should play like he does? If Ivey and JG are the problem, why isn't DeRozan the answer?
I'll let you marinate on why that is.
He got sonned by LeBron multiple playoffs. Then his team won the chip when they traded him
Ain't much to celebrate
Wait, what?
Shooting more shots doesn't mean the percentage should get greater. It's actually more to the contrary. It's remarkable that despite the league exponentially increasing their volume of 3s, the percentage has stayed the same. You'd expect with this increase in volume that there'd be some adjustment with a drop in efficiency, but there hasn't been one. What makes it even more remarkable that the percentage has stayed the same is that teams are actually defending the 3-pt shot now, and players are taking 3s from further out than from where the line actually is.
3-pt percentage has stayed the same despite greater volume and 3s taken from further out.
How exactly is that possibly an eyesore?
It's actually a testament to why shooting high-volume 3s has become a thing now.
The poster before said teams are missing more 3s per game than they attempted compared to 10 years ago. If you think that’s something that people want to see idk what to tell you. the hornets and bulls combined for 75 missed 3s a couple of nights ago, that record isn’t going to stand the test of time, it’s probably going to be broken multiple times this year.
I actually think we’re on the same page and I don’t disagree with much but I do think that great defense is still highly regarded. It’s just that most great defensive teams are accompanied by anemic offense
. Like Iowa.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
if the hornets and bulls combined for 75 misses regardless of where they shot, that wouldn't be uncommon at all. It's still a rock fight; you just think that if they maybe abandoned the three in favor of some fadeaway middies they wouldn't have missed so much, but bad shooting teams are bad shooting teams for a reason.
there's 2 reasons why teams don't focus on simply driving to the hoop
1. refs might not only not call something in your favor, they may call it against you and essentially take you out of the game.
2. these injuries are crazy. We've seen sneakers explode on a player before. We've seen someone plant wrong and everything go wrong after that. KD's probably missed the equivalent of a full season off injuries where all he did was land on someone else's foot. The body's not built for the lighter sneaker but much heavier force on the ligaments. Think of it like CTE. Eventually you get hit enough times in the head, then you have the brain of Chris Benoit's. Well, enough Euros and jump steps and stopping on a dime, your knee is gonna look like Kawhi's. If it wasn't for load management, Kawhi Leonard would be a hall of famer today since he would have had to retire three years ago.
Bleed The Freak
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I don't care what anyone says.
- lack of teams actually not liking each other
- The plethora of bad shots that are taken night in and night out
-The non-stop threes that never seem to end in people who have no business taking them
- teams used to have specialist on their team- they used to run actual set plays.
-now it just looks like a glorified HORSE game
-load management load management load management.
Imagine having a ticket for a Beyoncé concert or Taylor Swift concert or another major mega star, paying for the ticket and then showing up and realizing it's the backup performers doing the show. With no notice.
There would be congressional hearings and the ticket company would be refunding customers and lawsuits would be filed due to fraud being perpetuated by the performer on the public and sponsors.
But for some reason we allow the NBA to do that to us on a nightly basis by doing load management.
Imagine the NFL trying to have Patrick Mahomes versus Josh Allen on their marquee matchup on Sunday and then those two dudes the last minute sat out the game and you got Mitch Trubisky vs Carson Wentz.
These dudes got access to every single thing imaginable when it comes to medical facilities, data management of their bodies, sleep studies, massages, shoes that are specific for them, therapists, first class flights, food and hydration experts and be missing 30 fukkin games while their commissioner swear up and down it ain't no problem.
Anthony Richardson got crucified when he pulled himself out of a game for a play and got benched.
In the NBA that's just Tuesday.
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