Hamas won. You’re right. They let Israel up the score 20x and ruin half their territory in a month.
STUNNING success. One for the ages.
fukking moron.
STUNNING success. One for the ages.
fukking moron.
As a 2-State Solution Loses Steam, a 1-State Plan Gains Traction in Israel/Palestine
Some people live in a mythical place where Israel packs up and leave. Impossible to reason with them.
They speak of solutions as if Israel is the weaker party here, I don't know man...
im pretty fukkin far from an apologist for israel, but it seems like the ship has sailed on the arabs being able to prevent israel's existence. maybe it's time they act accordingly
The outright lying Palestinian supporters do is wild to me. They didn’t even start asking for a country as a people until 1967 when they kept getting spanked.
Like yo I’m sorry you got punked but yall failed militarily and you burned all your neighbors.
The Jordanians got burned. The Lebanese got burned. The Egyptians got burned.
What’s left? Iran is using them as crash dummies and for what?
No one who is reasonable thinks this way.
Israel is there to stay. The question is what to do with 5 million Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank.
Israel has been clear. No Palestinian state is happening. Netanyahu is on record saying that Hamas must be given access to cash and rule over Gaza to keep the PA and Hamas divided.
500,000 settlers are in the West Bank. They are armed. The National Security Minister and the Finance Minister are settlers who have armed their fellow settlers.
So what are the Palestinians to do?
The PA has given up.
Hamas maintains armed tactics.
Israel is the occupying power.
Yeah. 1 state. For this. Israel is TOTALLY on board
Should have thought about that before October 7th.
They mad a bad hand worse and Egypt hasn’t reached their boiling point t of caving yet.
History didn’t start on Oct 7.
That’s the Israeli modus operandum of talking about the conflict starting recently.
That does not work on the informed.
Didn’t start in 1948 either.
As far as most of us are concerned, October 7th is what matters. Much like 9/11 reset the table. If you don’t like the rules, don’t be in a position where you can’t make the rules.
There’s no deal. What was offered in Taba was the best but no time to fine tune the deal cause Barak lost.
Get it through your skull. The 56 year occupation fuels everything.
Israel wants its cake and to eat it too. They have.
But they can’t kill or displace 5 million people without significant push back and diplomatic loss of support. Gaza is a trial run for the West Bank.
If it was up to Ben Gvir and Smotrich, they’d exterminate every Palestinian there.
Who’s buying into propaganda again? Everyone keeps saying there was a deal but Hamas supporters like you didn’t like the terms so you crashed out
We don’t have much else to discuss.
Usually when you lose several wars you get GET NOTHING
Hamas is incompetent.
Fatah is corrupt and a party that isn’t serious.
What Clinton offered was a fake Palestinian state, one essentially still an Israeli colonial possession but they would have made it look really good and fool the people. The Gulf States and Egypt were 100% behind it, only the nationalist factions in the PLO and Hamas would have been against it, but part of the deal would have been a police state like other Arab countries and they would have been suppressed in cooperation with Shin Bet.
Also, they’d give up 8% of the West Bank and get some sand dunes in the Negev in return. I guess you’d have taken that deal?
Which is why you support them
Another entity you support
And now they have nothing
Whining about sand dunes? You mean everything the Arab world makes work?
Seems ungrateful to me.