Article: This is Why I’m Rethinking the Idea of “Buying Black”

[MeachTheMonster]

I will specify two communities that are consistently implementing such a relationship in other states, so as to not make it a local thing. But obviously, there are communities that will thrive in one state, but not in another

Chinese and the White Jewish Hasidic community
What makes it interesting is that both communities prove that the motivation to establish the simple relationship is not entirely motivated by culture or by a religion, but instead it's an understanding of the simple relationship's importance, and relevance in establishing and maintaining a resourceful community

Jewish people are a part of white supremacy and have received billions in support and reparations.

Chinese community's emulate white supremacy in that a couple at the top are doing fine, but the rest are either stuck in middle class or living in abject poverty.

Neither is a shining example of what black people could/should be doing.

Group economics does not mean to isolate the community from the world. It would be foolish to limit an entrepreneurs ability to make money, however, having an entrepreneurs not reliant upon a banking system / venture capitalist firms that are rooted in white supremacist structure, is a benefit of group economics

But that's exact what you are asking for when you say they should invest their profits back into the community. You are asking them to limit their own growth and opportunity in order to chase after this utopia within the walls a white supremacy.

Hold on so black folks should not participate in group economics?

"group economics" as a solution to black peoples problems in America, is not a real thing. It's something that sounds good on the surface, but it doesn't hold up to reality.

If you are asking if black people should support black business. Yes we should and we do.

 

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Can't just sell to your own.

Ownership is what matters. Don't be afraid to take other people's money.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

Jewish people are a part of white supremacy and have received billions in support and reparations.

Chinese community's emulate white supremacy in that a couple at the top are doing fine, but the rest are either stuck in middle class or living in abject poverty.

Neither is a shining example of what black people could/should be doing.

1) I used two different communities to show that being white, religious, or being from a specific culture does not motivate folks to implement group economics

2) having different classes is not a white supremacist structure, it is a derivative of capitalism, and arguably a few other isms. White supremacist structure plays a role in sustaining whiteness as a litmus test for beauty, wealth, good leadership etc

3) White jews ability to carve out Israel after the war, get renewed reparations from Germany and allied nations, and blind support of both political gangs are due to group economics, not simply because they are apart of white supremacist structure

But that's exact what you are asking for when you say they should invest their profits back into the community. You are asking them to limit their own growth and opportunity in order to chase after this utopia within the walls a white supremacy.

"group economics" as a solution to black peoples problems in America, is not a real thing. It's something that sounds good on the surface, but it doesn't hold up to reality.

If you are asking if black people should support black business. Yes we should and we do.

No you want to simplify the concept of "investing into a community," while ignoring how these same communities I mentioned have both companies that solely cater to them and companies that are marketing to everyone. But the companies that are marketing to everyone is ensuring that their charity donations and community relations budget are helping the community by either campaign funding in local/national races or investing in educational institutions that exclusively caters to their community members

 

[MeachTheMonster]

1) I used two different communities to show that being white, religious, or being from a specific culture does not motivate folks to implement group economics

2) having different classes is not a white supremacist structure, it is a derivative of capitalism, and arguably a few other isms. White supremacist structure plays a role in sustaining whiteness as a litmus for beauty, wealth, good leadership etc

3) White jews ability to carve out Israel after the war, get renewed reparations from Germany and allied nations, and blind support of both political gangs are due to group economics, not simply because they are apart of white supremacist structure.

1. None of the folks you mentioned have implemented "group economics" in the way you are saying black people should.

2. Having classes is not the problem. Having lopsided classes in which only the rich are benefiting from the system is the problem. It's what white supremacy taught the world and its what the Chinese community has emulated

3. So it's group economics that's still causing America to send millions in aid to isreal?

No you want to simplify the concept of "investing into a community," while ignoring how these same communities I mentioned have both companies that solely cater to them and companies that are marketing to everyone. But the companies that are marketing to everyone is ensuring that their charity donations and community relations budget are helping the community by either campaign funding in local/national races or investing in educational institutions that exclusively caters to their community members

By virtue of capitalism asking a business to do anything with their profits other than investing in more profits is limiting that businesses opportunity.

And you have a really flawed view of what these businesses are doing, and how these communities are living.

White supremacy taught you to view their culture/decisions as superior to black peoples, while ignoring the real historical facts for why things are the way they are.[/QUOTE]

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

1. None of the folks you mentioned have implemented "group economics" in the way you are saying black people should.

2. Having classes is not the problem. Having lopsided classes in which only the rich are benefiting from the system is the problem. It's what white supremacy taught the world and its what the Chinese community has emulated

3. So it's group economics that's still causing America to send millions in aid to isreal?

1) both communities are implementing the same concept and are having similar success, while both communities are not white. So white supremacy has nothing to do with group economic. Again, that is why I specified two culturally and religiously different communities so you don't get distracted by skin color, religion, history, and wealth

2) A lopsided class system has nothing to do with white supremacy as you are portraying it. The economical ideology implemented by that society has the majority of the effects on classes
White supremacy piggybacks economical ideology,
White supremacy piggybacks religious ideology,
White supremacy piggybacks philosophical ideology,

3) You clearly don't understand the benefits of group economics because you wouldn't question how a small group of white folks are catered to by the majority of white folks, while the same majority of white folks are not similarly catering to other small groups of whites folks. Other than white jews, what other white communities are getting reparations by the government and are catered to by both political gangs?

By virtue of capitalism asking a business to do anything with their profits other than investing in more profits is limiting that businesses opportunity.

And you have a really flawed view of what these businesses are doing, and how these communities are living.

White supremacy taught you to view their culture/decisions as superior to black peoples, while ignoring the real historical facts for why things are the way they are.

The virtue of capitalism has nothing to do with the diverse investment strategies by companies who made a decision to seek non-monetary returns on their investment in certain political campaigns, thinktanks, community organisations, research centers, and social movements

You clearly have a very limited view of the benefits and strategies of group economics and I question your depth of understanding in regards to white supremacy because you are blindly crediting it for teaching a group of people whose from a country that made considerable efforts to prevent white folks from politically and economically control their country

 

[MeachTheMonster]

1) both communities are implementing the same concept and are having similar success, while both communities are not white. So white supremacy has nothing to do with group economic. Again, that is why I specified two culturally and religiously different communities so you don't get distracted by skin color, religion, history, and wealth

No they aren't.

Jewish people are white.

Chinese people are living in cages in Chinatown

Neither is a valid comparison to black people.

Neither has a strategy or history comparable to black people

Neither has made a "group economics" community in spite of white supremacy as you claim.

2) A lopsided class system has nothing to do with white supremacy as you are portraying it. The economical ideology implemented by that society has the majority of the effects on classes
White supremacy piggybacks economical ideology,
White supremacy piggybacks religious ideology,
White supremacy piggybacks philosophical ideology,

White supremacy teaches to wall yourself off according to race/appearance.

That's exactly what you are advocating here.

3) You clearly don't understand the benefits of group economics because you wouldn't question how a small group of white folks are catered to by the majority of white folks, while the same majority of white folks are not similarly catering to other small groups of whites folks. Other than white jews, what other white communities are getting reparations by the government and are catered to by both political gangs?

Every single one of them.

You gotta learn your history.

Southern slave owners received reparations.

Middle class whites were handed out homes

Rich whites continually receive corporate bailouts

The virtue of capitalism has nothing to do with the diverse investment strategies by companies who made a decision to seek non-monetary returns on their investment in certain political campaigns, thinktanks, community organisations, research centers, and social movements

Which complanies are these?

You clearly have a very limited view of the benefits and strategies of group economics and I question your depth of understanding in regards to white supremacy because you are blindly crediting it for teaching a group of people whose from a country that made considerable efforts to prevent white folks from politically and economically control their country

white folks control isreal breh.

White folks ARE isreal

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

No they aren't.

Jewish people are white.

Chinese people are living in cages in Chinatown

Neither is a valid comparison to black people.

Neither has a strategy or history comparable to black people

Neither has made a "group economics" community in spite of white supremacy as you claim.


White supremacy teaches to wall yourself off according to race/appearance.

That's exactly what you are advocating here.


Every single one of them.

You gotta learn your history.

Southern slave owners received reparations.

Middle class whites were handed out homes

Rich whites continually receive corporate bailouts




Which complanies are these?


white folks control isreal breh.

White folks ARE isreal

I wasn't talmbowt Israel, I was talmbowt China. How much sense does it make to say Israel kicked out white folks, but then to say israel are white folks. You seem to not be reading and comprehending, then providing a well thought out rebutal. Don't give cookie cut responses from your prior discussions

Like I said, I don't think you understand what group economics is.
You are grabbing random things and trying to force them together just to argue...bu bu white folks were given homes and middle class were given money to answer a very specific question that highlights a distinction among Jews and "white folks who were given homes" OR "white slave owners" (which includes both non-jew and jewish)

You continue to speak in generalities instead of specifics, which is why you are blaming white supremacy for most things that has nothing to do with it. I already gave you a clear, practical and correct definition of what white supremacy is and its characteristics

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I wasn't talmbowt Israel, I was talmbowt China. How much sense does it make to say Israel kicked out white folks, but then to say israel are white folks. You seem to not be reading and comprehending, then providing a well thought out rebutal. Don't give cookie cut responses from your prior discussions

China is fukked up too breh.

You are only reading these news stories white people like to promote to show blacks as the worse minority.

Chinese people in America. and China itself are not something black people should emulate.

In general the average Chinese person is fukked and chasing the same false dream as everybody else who isn't a part of the white power structure. That includes white people.

And even if it was, we don't have a country our own.

And I never said Jews kicked white people out.

I said Jews ARE white people

Like I said, I don't think you understand what group economics is.

"Group economics" as you've described them doesn't exist. It's a word that somebody said, and other people repeated, but when it comes to real world realities, the shyt doesn't exist.

Black business is better now than it has ever been in the past. And who do you think is supporting those businesses? Black people.

So group economics in the literal sense already exists for black people.

You are grabbing random things and trying to force them together just to argue...bu bu white folks were given homes and middle class were given money to answer a very specific question that highlights a distinction among Jews and "white folks who were given homes" OR "white slave owners" (which includes both non-jew and jewish)

There is no distinction between Jews and white people. When there was a distinction Jews were fukked.

You continue to speak in generalities instead of specifics, which is why you are blaming white supremacy for most things that has nothing to do with it. I already gave you a clear, practical and correct definition of what white supremacy is and its characteristics

You are the one speaking in generalities talking about how great "Jewish" and "Chinese" people have done. And what "black" people have or have not done.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

China is fukked up too breh.

You are only reading these news stories white people like to promote to show blacks as the worse minority.

Chinese people in America. and China itself are not something black people should emulate.

In general the average Chinese person is fukked and chasing the same false dream as everybody else who isn't a part of the white power structure. That includes white people.

And even if it was, we don't have a country our own.

And I never said Jews kicked white people out.

I said Jews ARE white people


"Group economics" as you've described them doesn't exist. It's a word that somebody said, and other people repeated, but when it comes to real world realities, the shyt doesn't exist.

Black business is better now than it has ever been in the past. And who do you think is supporting those businesses? Black people.

So group economics in the literal sense already exists for black people.

There is no distinction between Jews and white people. When there was a distinction Jews were fukked.

You are the one speaking in generalities talking about how great "Jewish" and "Chinese" people have done. And what "black" people have or have not done.

Like I said, I asked you a specific question as to what other white group received reparations and are catered to by both political parties? How did you answer that? with generalities that span history...you weren't able to name such a group because no such other group exist today

To be catered to means to have influence, to have influence, means to have resources, to have resources, means to have money. Individuals having money does not equate to being catered to, but instead, like minded individuals with money investing into the same goals and aspiration equate to being catered to

You talmbowt how fawked up China is does nothing to discredit or to address my original point about the country of China. They made assertive effort not to have white folks control their government and economy, so they did not learn about lopsided classes from white supremacy as you ignorantly stated

You've chosen to completely ignore economical ideologies inorder to inject white supremacy frivolously. That irresponsible way of debating does nothing but inject confusion and take way the valid points of the negatives of white supremacy

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Like I said, I asked you a specific question as to what other white group received reparations and are catered to by both political parties?How did you answer that? with generalities that span history...you weren't able to name such a group because no such other group exist today

The G.I. Bill was signed in the late 40's. Those people are still alive today, and their children are still benefiting. In fact that's where the majority of middle class white people in 2015 can trace their wealth back to.

The corporate bailout happened in 2008 and 2012

As I said, you gotta learn your history.

To be catered to means to have influence, to have influence, means to have resources, to have resources, means to have money. Individuals having money does not equate to being catered to, but instead, like minded individuals with money investing into the same goals and aspiration equate to being catered to

You talmbowt how fawked up China is does nothing to discredit or to address my original point about the country of China. They made assertive effort not to have white folks control their government and economy, so they did not learn about lopsided classes from white supremacy as you ignorantly stated

No the hell they didn't. White people are both their biggest customer and their biggest supporter.

China's recent "economic success" comes from emulating white supremacy to the letter.

You've chosen to completely ignore economical ideologies inorder to inject white supremacy frivolously. That irresponsible way of debating does nothing but inject confusion and take way the valid points of the negatives of white supremacy

"group economics" is not an economic ideology. You ever taken an economics class?

Not once will they mention purposely limiting your market to a certain demographic based off skin color.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

The G.I. Bill was signed in the late 40's. Those people are still alive today, and their children are still benefiting. In fact that's where the majority of middle class white people in 2015 can trace their wealth back to.

The corporate bailout happened in 2012

As I said, you gotta learn your history.

More historical generalities about white folks, and not specifics on why a subgroup of white folks are catered to by both political gangs and are continually giving reparations by several different countries, including allies

No the hell they didn't. White people are both their biggest customer and their biggest supporter.
China's recent "economic success" comes from emulating white supremacy to the letter.

Whose biggest customer and whose biggest supporter?
What did China emulate that is based on white supremacy?

"group economics" is not an economic ideology. You ever taken an economics class?

Not once will they mention purposely limiting your market to a certain demographic based off skin color.

Remove black folks, do you not know that the concept of group economics would still exist?
Whether it be community banks, businesses that cater to specific community, and individuals who choose to buy and sell to specific merchants for some reason

 

[MeachTheMonster]

More historical generalities about white folks, and not specifics on why a subgroup of white folks are catered to by both political gangs and are continually giving reparations by several different countries, including allies

Those are specific groups still supported today.

Whose biggest customer and whose biggest supporter?
What did China emulate that is based on white supremacy?

America. White people have been their biggest customers and supporters.

Recently the narrative about China's economic success. Has come from them emulating the American economy of the last 50 years.

Remove black folks, do you not know that the concept of group economics would still exist? Whether it be community banks, businesses that cater to specific community, and individuals who choose to buy and sell to specific merchants for some reason

No it wouldn't. Not once in history has a group purposely limited their economic opportunities based on skin color.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

Those are specific groups still supported today.

How are white folks who could trace their wealth from the GI build similar to a group of whites being catered to by both political gangs and are receiving reparations from other nations including, allies? makes no sense

America. White people have been their biggest customers and supporters.

Recently the narrative about China's economic success. Has come from them emulating the American economy of the last 50 years.

This makes absolutely no sense. And you are again talking in generalities which indicate you are arguing just ot argue at this point

You saying white people are the biggest supporters of America, while I'm talking to you about two specific groups that exist in America

No it wouldn't. Not once in history has a group purposely limited their economic opportunities based on skin color.

Yet another example of you not knowing what group economics is and your blatatant disregard of my explanation of what it deals with and what it doesn't

 

[MeachTheMonster]

How are white folks who could trace their wealth from the GI build similar to a group of whites being catered to by both political gangs and are receiving reparations from other nations including, allies? makes no sense

The G.I. Bill was supported by both parties and the world community. As were the bank bailouts.

America sending millions of aid to isreal today is supported by the world community.

This makes absolutely no sense. And you are again talking in generalities which indicate you are arguing just ot argue at this point You saying white people are the biggest supporters of America, while I'm talking to you about two specific groups that exist in America

You just said you were talking about China.

Do you even know what you are taking about anymore?

Yet another example of you not knowing what group economics is and your blatatant disregard of my explanation of what it deals with and what it doesn't

What is group economics?

And give me the historical precedent for its success.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

The G.I. Bill was supported by both parties and the world community. As were the bank bailouts.

America sending millions of aid to isreal today is supported by the world community.


You just said you were talking about China.

Do you even know what you are taking about anymore?



What is group economics?

How does England, Russia, Cuba, and Zimbabwe benefit from the GI BIl?
How is the GI Bill example vs Jews being catered to examples comparable, when a jew could fit into the GI Bill example, but a white dude could not fit into the Jewish example?Do you not see you are trying to force compare apples and oranges?