Article: I'm gay (pause) and I oppose same-sex marriage

[valet]

If those aren't religious arguments, then I've never seen one. It doesn't have to be explicitly religious in language- in fact, none of the legal arguments against it are, even though the people making them are all religious. Anything that tries to give some special status to marriage, against history, and against all the research, cannot be complaining from a place of reason.

Not from a place reason? Ok.

 

[The Real]

Not from a place reason? Ok.

May I also point out that the terms he's using, philia and eros, are from ancient Greek, and the way he is using them indicates that he is drawing on Plato's usages of the terms... which were originally used to describe the pederastic relationships between adult male mentors and their boy students. One more layer of irony to the piece.

 

[Blackking]

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Marriage is a legal institution that just so happens to share the same name of a religious institution.

Marriage is based on sexual dimorphism and community structure. Been that way forever. For all of history marriage has had a relationship with religious beliefs and cultural practices.

Soo many religious laws, practices, ideas, morals, beliefs, and traditions were integrated in the legal institutions and governments of the world. When given a choice, that is the direction that human beings chose to go in.... as religious laws offered the best guarantees about our longevity and moral foundation as a human race. So it doesn't Just "happen" to share the same name, it's just what it is. There is no complete separation of church and state, and the state wouldn't exist without deeply religious racist founding it on the religious backs of others. There is the idea of separation, but it's not like every law, idea, and politician aren't going to be influenced by religion.

Anyway, marriage is what it is. Not what we are trying to make it be. Civil unions with equal legal rights as marriage, should have been what gays fought for.. so that could actually be fighting for something, instead of fighting against the common idea of something.

 

[Pazzy]

Problem is, many gay activists themselves don't want it that way. They INSIST on calling it "marriage" and putting it on par with traditional hetero marriage.

the supreme court said that separate BUT equal is unconstitutional. the same thing applies in this case.

 

[Brown_Pride]

I think when the state recognizes the insanity that is homosexuality they are condoning behavior and allowing even more of it to spread among citizens. I feel it compounds issues we already have to deal with like, sexually transmitted diseases, sexual child abuse, etc.

how exactly does this compound child abuse? Further the state recognizing gay marriage is not more likely to promote "gayness" the social stigma behind it remains and regardless of your whim or "feelings" law is law and per the constution of this land all men are afforded the same equal protection.

Most men agree that homosexuality is not something that should be encouraged in children but gay marriage tells children that its ok to be gay from a young age, which is wrong.

and allowing gays to marry encourages it in children? You can still tell your seed that gay is wrong but wrastling in your underwear with other men is manly, don't worry...

I feel that people who cosign homosexuality naturally have to cosign other brands of filth just to make everything fair and equal like transgendered marriages, incestuous marriages, etc which ultimately warp and perverse the natural order of men which is to squash these types of movements.

i don't particularly care how you feel

Gay marriage is an artificial, nurtured phenom that cannot occur without people in high places using their positions of power to slowly brainwash citizens into its acceptance.

i'd say, "you can't be serious" but you are.

I feel that the push for homosexuality comes from people in positions of power being homosexual and too cowardly to come out of the closet because they know it will cost them votes so they use the insidious tactic of letting it breed among the population who in turn fight for the rights of this group so people in power can be more open with their sickness.

So your theory is that gay people will just POOF be accepted by the masses teh moment gay marriage is allowed? Or just over time politicians in power right now want to remain in power AND be gay too?

I feel that it is white culture to accept and embrace homosexuality and black people are victims of this perverse philosophy by living among them.

...well if that ain't just some raced based shyt out of left field.

I feel that people who cosign homosexuality have a perverse view of family that ultimately hurts families because these same people will tell you that women can raise children by themselves. There is a lot of baggage that comes with same sex marriage that people overlook just so they can get gays in the door.

I feel you've over exposed your emotions with this post. Gays are already "in the door" you fool. This WILL happen, it is legally the right thing to do.

Lastly, i dont trust gay people and history has shown what they are capable of when their movements are slowly cosigned. They creep their way into each institution and basically change the entire landscape of morality to the detriment of the population for the benefit of a few.

do tell...

 

[Fervid]

Problem is, many gay activists themselves don't want it that way. They INSIST on calling it "marriage" and putting it on par with traditional hetero marriage.

Who cares?

My wife and I perform different roles as parents, but I have no proof that same sex couples can't assume separate roles and raise a child as well as anyone else.

 

[MostReal]

This is NOT a argument b/c of religion despite what Dill-Doe Reily says that the only argument is based on Bible Thumping. The author does support civil-unions.

I’m Gay and I Oppose Same-Sex Marriage | Public Discourse

very true & I've been saying this forever. Homosexuality involves an Act, its a temptation that must be acted on/performed even. It is not a 'being' or state.

Homosexuality is nothing more than a lifestyle & this guy explained it better than anyone. Life involves way more than just sex & sexual acts or conquest do not encompass a person's life.

This is why being Black/Mexican/Asian is not the same as Homosexuality. There is a clear difference & this guy defined it.

as far as marriage & civil unions. I'm for civil unions (with all of the extended benefits that they need to make them comfortable & given justice regarding the law).

But marriage is different because its a man & a woman as the author clearly admits.

 

[Pazzy]

very true & I've been saying this forever. Homosexuality involves an Act, its a temptation that must be acted on/performed even. It is not a 'being' or state.

Homosexuality is nothing more than a lifestyle & this guy explained it better than anyone. Life involves way more than just sex & sexual acts or conquest do not encompass a person's life.

This is why being Black/Mexican/Asian is not the same as Homosexuality. There is a clear difference & this guy defined it.

as far as marriage & civil unions. I'm for civil unions (with all of the extended benefits that they need to make them comfortable & given justice regarding the law).

But marriage is different because its a man & a woman as the author clearly admits.

man, do you understand what attraction means? heterosexuality and homosexuality is about what you're attracted to and you just said that heterosexuality is something that you can't control. what makes you think homosexuality is any different? as long as it's not hurting anybody, you're busy getting upset over nothing.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

It's really hilarious reading some of the views you folks have on homosexuality.. like what the fukk..I think it's also funny that every homo thread goes platinum because it's easier for stupid people to talk about and science related threads are lucky to go 2 pages

 

[MostReal]

man, do you understand what attraction means? heterosexuality and homosexuality is about what you're attracted to and you just said that heterosexuality is something that you can't control. what makes you think homosexuality is any different? as long as it's not hurting anybody, you're busy getting upset over nothing.

where in my quote did I say that?

I think you got what I mean confused. Both heterosexuality & homosexuality are temptations/attractions. I may be attracted to different women but if I don't act on it, then I didn't cheat on my wife. Its the same thing as homos liking men.

 

[Robbie3000]

on some separate but equal shyt. is this what a gay c00n looks like

a...a goon?

The is an Uncle Twan.

 

[Pazzy]

where in my quote did I say that?

I think you got what I mean confused. Both heterosexuality & homosexuality are temptations/attractions. I may be attracted to different women but if I don't act on it, then I didn't cheat on my wife. Its the same thing as homos liking men.

you know what. three words, gay conversion therapy. look that up and see how many people have succeed in rewiring their brains to like the opposite sex.

 

[Dyce25]

I agree that civil unions have the appearance of being equal to marriage, but marriage grants rights to people that civil unions do not. That's the basis for why people should support gay rights (which I do).

 

[MostReal]

I agree that civil unions have the appearance of being equal to marriage, but marriage grants rights to people that civil unions do not. That's the basis for why people should support gay rights (which I do).

then extend the rights of civil unions to be equal to marriage. That would settle it but NOOOOooo....they just want to redefine the word

its so