Arizona Governor Vetoes Bill on Refusal of Service to Gays

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I'm going to support them by spending my money elsewhere. you shouldn't fight to spend your money where you aren't wanted or welcome.

What if you were in a situation that was an emergency (urgent situation) and needed to go to the nearest convenient store to make a purchase to address this emergency. The owner denies you service because of your race. You say "fine I will take my business elsewhere!!!" But unfortunately the next store is 15-20 minutes away.

Oh yeah you don't have a car either so walking is your only option.

Should it be fair that business can deny you its service?

 

[Matt504]

The problem with this is that we make up less than 14% of the population in this country. Imagine that you're hailing a cab and none of the drivers will pick you up. Oh we'll right? They don't want your money why should they deliver a service to you right? We should totally move towards this kind of social compact anarchy to protect the rights of the bigoted right?

Money has no feelings. When a customer meets a service provider in the market place the only color and creed that should matter is the color and denomination of the currency. You should be able to spend money wherever and on whatever you want regardless of the personal beliefs of the service provider.

I agree, green should be the only color that matters, unfortunately it's not.

I'm not interested in protecting or infringing upon the rights of a bigoted person, I simply do not want to spend MY money with them, I'll gladly take my money elsewhere before fighting someone who doesn't want me in their establishment to accept MY money.

 

[88m3]

I agree, green should be the only color that matters, unfortunately it's not.

I'm not interested in protecting or infringing upon the rights of a bigoted person, I simply do not want to spend MY money with them, I'll gladly take my money elsewhere before fighting someone who doesn't want me in their establishment to accept MY money.

clown

 

[FaTaL]

the nfl money made her choice for her

 

[Matt504]

What if you were in a situation that was an emergency (urgent situation) and needed to go to the nearest convenient store to make a purchase to address this emergency. The owner denies you service because of your race. You say "fine I will take my business elsewhere!!!" But unfortunately the next store is 15-20 minutes away.

Oh yeah you don't have a car either so walking is your only option.

Should it be fair that business can deny you its service?

it's unfair, I agree.

I think this should motivate Black people to open up our own stores that we can support with our own money. Koreans and middle easterners have placed stores in all of our neighborhoods, why can't we do it?

 

[Matt504]

clown

name caller.

 

[88m3]

name caller.

So what we should be all forced to live in some uncertain even hostile environment?

If you have to have people explain to you why that's a bad idea I feel sorry for you.

 

[Matt504]

Ambulances and doctors are private practices...you know this right? Many Universities are too...

besides..its not about the DESIRE to spend money there...its about the RIGHT to...i hope you understand the difference.

I understand the difference, and if I can avoid spending my money in an establishment that doesn't want me there, I will.

I'm not interested in spending my money with people who don't want me in their establishments, even if I have a right to be there.

 

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it's unfair, I agree.

I think this should motivate Black people to open up our own stores that we can support with our own money. Koreans and middle easterners have placed stores in all of our neighborhoods, why can't we do it?

That's besides the point

Not every person is meant to be a business owner. 9 out of 10 business start-ups on average will fail.

This is a person that just wants to be fairly accommodated for a simple request and because he's being denied he should just buck up and jump into something he may not even be good at (owning a business)?

 

[Matt504]

So what we should be all forced to live in some uncertain even hostile environment?

If you have to have people explain to you why that's a bad idea I feel sorry for you.

what's bad about ME not wanting to spend my money in an establishment where my presence is unwanted?

 

[88m3]

what's bad about ME not wanting to spend my money in an establishment where my presence is unwanted?

It's "bad" that you support a bill that will lead to a less cohesive society. It's "bad" that you think laws should be enacted to allow persecution of anyone.

I could care less what you choose to do as an "individual" if you're not providing a service.

 

[Matt504]

That's besides the point

Not every person is meant to be a business owner. 9 out of 10 business start-ups on average will fail.

This is a person that just wants to be fairly accommodated for a simple request and because he's being denied he should just buck up and jump into something he may not even be good at (owning a business)?

I'm not implying that everyone who is denied services should go into business on their own, I'm suggesting that if there were more Black owned stores and we supported them with our money as a community, those stores might grow into a chain and we can place more of them in Black communities nationwide and we'd be able to spend money with someone who welcomes our presence.

right now in 2014 you can go into an Asian owned store and be refused service in the black community, even with all the "rights" we have.

 

[Consigliere]

I agree, green should be the only color that matters, unfortunately it's not.

I'm not interested in protecting or infringing upon the rights of a bigoted person, I simply do not want to spend MY money with them, I'll gladly take my money elsewhere before fighting someone who doesn't want me in their establishment to accept MY money.

You are currently spending your money with people who don't want you in their establishment every time you pay taxes bruh. The government doesn't like you or particularly need you as an individual but they will take your tax money. Self reliance is a good philosophy, it's the execution that's lacking.

The beautiful thing about commerce is that you have the right to not like the person you do business with. It shouldn't stop you from doing business with them, otherwise we might as well go back to the barter system and dissolve our union.

 

[Matt504]

It's "bad" that you support a bill that will lead to a less cohesive society. It's "bad" that you think laws should be enacted to allow persecution of anyone.

I could care less what you choose to do as an "individual" if you're not providing a service.

what do you consider as "support", I haven't voted for this bill, haven't lobbied for it or even claimed to support it here on the Coli, my position is that I don't think it's wise to spend your hard earned money in any establishment where you're not wanted, that's simply my personal opinion.

 

[Matt504]

You are currently spending your money with people who don't want you in their establishment every time you pay taxes bruh. The government doesn't like you or particularly need you as an individual but they will take your tax money. Self reliance is a good philosophy, it's the execution that's lacking.

The beautiful thing about commerce is that you have the right to not like the person you do business with. It shouldn't stop you from doing business with them, otherwise we might as well go back to the barter system and dissolve our union.

it shouldn't stop you from doing business with a person, right.

if you enter an establishment tomorrow and they refuse to serve you, how will you proceed after being refused service, what is your next step?