Arizona commits Cardinal sin,but SF stays strapped w/40-nines aimed @ you birds:official game thread

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That's all good. IF we was starting a team

We have a top 5 defense.
no, we don't.
Our defense is still fukking awesome and we missing two of our superstar defensive players. So with THIS team, I'm not worried about a defense
:mindblown: you arent worried about a defense ? did you even watch the game ? we should be praying bowman is back to full strength and aldon is a choir boy from now on

So harvin isn't a star now? nikka didn't put on a show in the Super Bowl? nikka isn't still putting on a show?
so boldin didnt put on a show in the super bowl ? we have him, remember ?
we also have VD the freak of nature.

we have those guys. the problem is once we get another WR he wont be good enough for you because he wont put up numbers in our offense. welker is basically stevie/crabtree in our system.

Maybe you're confusing what I'm saying here. Where's the dude who's always open?? Where's the dude when we can't score in the redzone..... You know... Cause we aren't.... Where the big tall monster receiver to throw the end fade to?
stevie and crabs get open off routes, vd is the speed mismatch, boldin is the guy you throw a fade to. whats the problem ?

You talking doing good. I'm talking bout winning a damn super bowl or bust. We are the damn Eagles with mcnabb. NFC nfc Super Bowl NFC. All that amounts to is nothing.
who did flacco throw to in the superbowl ?
thats right, boldin

who did he throw on ?
on a "top 5 defense", according to you. some shyt dont add up breh. you saying we dont have wrs yet the same guy who styled on our defense who you keep on saying is top 5, is not good enough anymore ? :usure:

So yea. If I got to go grab 1 player for this team, it'd be that WR. Damn sure wouldn't be another defensive player on a defensive monster type squad.
brilliant, another WR on a run-first squad. do you understand if we took kevin benjamin he would see bruce ellington snaps right about now ?
 

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what we really needed was a corner who could help the team now. we couldnt and still cant afford revis, but he would stabilize our db woes.

ward is a huge project in making, and he sucks off the bat. he might need more time or he might be a bust, but he sure as hell isnt a solution right now.
 

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Low key, 49ers run game has fell off and the team is still trying to pretend to be a run first team. Until they diversify the play calling, teams are going to be able to hang with them.
 

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I've been saying that Alex Smith was still the better QB than Kaepernick. I swear, some male fans got caught up in Kaep's ab pictures as much as the female fans did. Don't forget that Smith went undefeated his final collegiate year. Kaep played in the fukkboy WAC.
he isnt. the move from alex to kaep was completely and utterly right and yielded us some nice picks.

alex smith wont be able to overcome shytty defenses either and he certainly wont throw out of his comfort zone to combat stacked boxes. while kaeps become a bit more turnover prone I still believe he can do anything alex can do. he isnt as advanced as alex is with defense reading, but Im sure he'll get better at it in few years. alex was clueless to start too. of course, the window seems to be closing now, but at the end of the day imo we solely and purely depend on our D to take us places. the offense just isnt ready to be a machine yet and Im not sure will ever be with these coaches and this line.

kaep has some real, troubling problems, but its not on him to make the offense work. coaching is supposed to put the talent together. kaep isnt a scrub, and our WRs or our line are definitely no scrubs either. its up to coaching to make a better product. we all see the potential the offense has when everything is clicking
 

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Low key, 49ers run game has fell off and the team is still trying to pretend to be a run first team. Until they diversify the play calling, teams are going to be able to hang with them.
not really, the problem is that we don't run and try to throw more when we arent that kind of team. part of it is because of shytty D, part because of roman's stupidity

run was working fine the first couple of games.
 

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not really, the problem is that we don't run and try to throw more when we arent that kind of team. part of it is because of shytty D, part because of roman's stupidity

run was working fine the first couple of games.
Do you think Harbaugh is trying to transition to becoming a throwing team because he sees that the run game is slipping? Because I don't know, that's what I'm starting to believe. When the D can't hold a team, and SF goes down, they can't rely on the run. Colin is going to have to take them above if you ask me. And he hasn't shown that he can.
 

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Do you think Harbaugh is trying to transition to becoming a throwing team because he sees that the run game is slipping? Because I don't know, that's what I'm starting to believe. When the D can't hold a team, and SF goes down, they can't rely on the run. Colin is going to have to take them above if you ask me. And he hasn't shown that he can.
ok this finna be a long post lol, but bear with me

I think they understand that they have weapons and they think they gotta pass more, even though in reality they don't really . Im sure guys like Quan, Crabs, Stevie say give me the ball on every play. Gore is barely breaking tackles nowadays, so I can see its tempting for them. last year they also started the season gung ho passing wise and got two Ls handed to them. then they went back to basics and continued their winning ways

this time its different tho, and I agree kaep is feeling the pressure a bit on him to come back into games and air it out. hes pressing late in games. lack of confidence in D isnt doing him any favors.

ive said it before in other threads, this team is built to lean on defense and play with lead or close to the lead. kaep was able to pull some stuff out of his ass in 2012 and come back in offs when teams werent prepared, against crappy defenses. cats out of the bag now and everyone is aware of his weaknesses in terms of opposing defenses.

and heres the thing. while I am critical of kaep and think hes been subpar overall this season, I dont think hes the main reason for struggles at all. what I do know hes not able to shoulder the load by himself when D falters. thats ok, panthers and to lesser extent hawks also have that (and I think russ wilson is far ahead of kaep at least as pure passing and decision making is concerned). both are great teams. we are still run-first and D team at our core. we need a bazillion things to change if we gonna change identity, that includes the coach

if coaching is thinking they can make a prolific passing team out of current team, they imo are severely mistaken. we'll need to replace 3 or 4 guys on the oline who arent maulers but are good in pass pro. we'll need different kind of WRs. will need different kind of coaches who understand how to combat blitz and how to utilize all the talent. we'll need to teach kaep short passing, soft touch and to make multiple reads all the time, not just occasionally.

all of that just will take so much time and will require pretty much a complete rebuild on offense, and who knows what results it will have ? therefore its always easier to come back to whats worked and what has worked- D and being run-first. hyde has nice burst. kaep can run the ball. we dont need the WRs and TE talent to pass just for sake of passing. we need it to take the heat off the run game, and so far it hasnt really worked. thats on coaching, imo.
 

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You gotta be a retard to watch this game and think the issue is with the qb. Folk talk about Alex as if he's Montana. I don't get it. The issue isn't with the qb. You see our secondary? No pass rush? Play calling, game plan, bone headed penalties. I'd look at about 5 things before looking at the qb. When has Alex been able to overcome his D and running game not playing at an elite level? Even with fat andy?

The O has put together several long clock milking drives. Kaep we were methodical and drinking and dunking in the 1st half. Look at the yards per attempt and TOP.

Kaep got some things to work on but lol at thinking things would be different with Alex.

Our coaching staff does us no favors with these basic predictable run plays and unimaginative play calling. I think they'll get it together.
 
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what we really needed was a corner who could help the team now. we couldnt and still cant afford revis, but he would stabilize our db woes.

ward is a huge project in making, and he sucks off the bat. he might need more time or he might be a bust, but he sure as hell isnt a solution right now.

Baalke and Co too damn cute and cocky trying thinking they can plug just about anyone into the D and continue trucking. I would have had no issue not improving the wr core if it meant we could improve the secondary. Look lost as fukk back there and it was always the Achilles heel of the D before and it got worse.
 
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