Are you ready for Prometheus???!!???

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Well those AVP movies aren't in the same universe as Predator 1, Predator 2, and Predators...

I think they could make a good one within that universe... They need to do it RIGHT...
You positive about that? Did one of the writers or the director make that claim? I'd never heard this.

As for Prometheus. I thought it was a pretty good movie, but I think some of the lore went over my head.

Noomi realizes that the jockeys made a mistake and were planning to wipe us off the face of the earth. The only reason I can see that this happened is because they visited Earth a number of times over the years after they seeded the planet. I say that because how else would cave dwellers and primitive cultures from 30,000 years ago known about that star system unless someone showed them or at least specifically instructed them to paint the image. Either way, that tells me that those jockeys visited the planet in preparation for whatever it was they were doing. Either they lost interest or came to the conclusion that we weren't going to learn whatever lesson they were hoping to teach us, OR we were cattle from the very beginning and vessels for that ooze in the jars.

The reason I subscribe to the latter is because it would have made no sense for them to come up with some elaborate weapon to kill us when they could have just burned us away at any time they wanted. Wasn't like we could compete with them technologically or from a militaristic standpoint. From where I'm sitting it seems humans were the first part of the experiment and the xenomorph ooze was the second part of it.

But then I think I could be all the way wrong because if we were just some experiement, why nurture us in the first place? Why have us draw a star system that would help our off spring find the very weapon we were created to occupy as some sort of ammo? I'd love to hear theories from the sci-fi heads. My mind is all over the place with questions and theories at the moment.
 

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just got back. and this movie was pure piff. mite have been the blunt i smoked before but i thought this was the best movie of the year. Fassbender killed it, after xmen and shame he is forming into the next great actor.
 

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Movie was good, but I just can't do 3D. shyt gave me a headache
 

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Got a better explanation for it that might be a bit helpful


Ridley Scott’s Prometheus explained (SPOILER WARNING) - Following The Nerd
After David opened the chamber door, he atmosphericly compromised the room’s air which had been sealed for around 2000 years (we know this because they carbon dated the headless body by about 2000 years). Fresh air caused the murals on the wall to degrade and the temperature difference of the fresh air caused the canisters to sweat, like when you put ice in a glass of water. This also had an effect on the biological liquids in the canisters, causing them to start expanding (liquids can expand when the temperature radically canges).
When David first walks into the chamber, we see (although none of the crew notice) that he disturbs some form of larvae on the ground (they come up from under the ground after he steps on it). These are most likely left over from the space jockey head left in the room (these may also be what causes the head to explode later during the examination, but that’s a whole other topic). The black liquid in the canisters is a bio weapon, from what I understood in the murals we saw in the walls, the main one showed the alien xenomorph at it’s centre, suggesting that the biological black liquid is designed to grow into the alien xenomorph – each canister when activated will become one alien drone, most likely a soldier that can NOT reproduce (otherwise there would be no way to control them once the space jockeys have unleashed them on their target, the xenomorph would NOT be capable of implanting an embryo in another being). The black liquid though, because it does create a living organism from nothing, would have to contain some kind of advanced steroid that affects biological matter in order to create a life form.
When the black liquid pools on the ground, the larvae we saw on the ground began to bathe in it and feed on it. As a result, it bioformed them as it’s capable of doing, the end result being an agressive more advanced worm creature, the creatures encountered by Fifield and Millburn. When the creature sprays acid on Fifield’s helmet it begins to melt it. Fifield then falls into the black liquid, but when he stands the helmet has been melted enough that it collapses inwards. The mixture of melted helmet and the black liquid burns into his face, causing him to pass out, falling face first into the black liquid, where it begins to biologically change him as it did the larvae worms.

Meanwhile, Holloway, who has ingested a single drop of the black liquid, has been undergoing internal changes. As he ingested it, and only in*a small amount, his change has taken more time, working more subtly, changing his internal organs first including his reproductive system. Because of this, and unawares to either of them, he impregnates Shaw with an embryo that is human based, but has been part changed by the black liquid. Holloway begins to suffer radical changes with the black liquid changing him into a xenomorph drone. He’s not as far along as Fifield when we last see him, and his behavour and mind has not been changed yet when he sacrifices himself.

The real surprise is that because the creature that Shaw gives birth to is a hybrid of human and xenomorph genetics, it contains all of the genetic traits of the xenomorphs, intelligence, aggression, but it now also contains in some form, a reproductive system, meaning that it is able to implant an embryo in a being (as we see at the movie’s end), which it will take traits from and evolve into the xenomorph we know.
 

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Seriously though, people saying this is trash either A) didn't see it and are trolling or B) wanted more action which I agree with to an extent.. I did think the pacing was a little off but the suspense scenes were great.

It's not trash. It's not a classic. It's in the "solid" range and that's probably a letdown because everyone including myself was expecting something that would blow us the fukk away.

Trailers gave too much too. Way too much.

I wasn't even looking for more action, I was looking for more of a suspenseful feel. I watched Alien again the night before seeing Prometheus and the tension and drama was off the chain from the moment they entered the spaceship yet I never felt those same levels in Prometheus. It just felt off to me.
 

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Movie was cool, i wasnt blown away but i like the mystery of things encountered. The ending was kinda rushed, but the effects were excellent. Good flick, couldve been better but overall its worth seeing.

7/10
 

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Got a better explanation for it that might be a bit helpful


Ridley Scott’s Prometheus explained (SPOILER WARNING) - Following The Nerd
After David opened the chamber door, he atmosphericly compromised the room’s air which had been sealed for around 2000 years (we know this because they carbon dated the headless body by about 2000 years). Fresh air caused the murals on the wall to degrade and the temperature difference of the fresh air caused the canisters to sweat, like when you put ice in a glass of water. This also had an effect on the biological liquids in the canisters, causing them to start expanding (liquids can expand when the temperature radically canges).
When David first walks into the chamber, we see (although none of the crew notice) that he disturbs some form of larvae on the ground (they come up from under the ground after he steps on it). These are most likely left over from the space jockey head left in the room (these may also be what causes the head to explode later during the examination, but that’s a whole other topic). The black liquid in the canisters is a bio weapon, from what I understood in the murals we saw in the walls, the main one showed the alien xenomorph at it’s centre, suggesting that the biological black liquid is designed to grow into the alien xenomorph – each canister when activated will become one alien drone, most likely a soldier that can NOT reproduce (otherwise there would be no way to control them once the space jockeys have unleashed them on their target, the xenomorph would NOT be capable of implanting an embryo in another being). The black liquid though, because it does create a living organism from nothing, would have to contain some kind of advanced steroid that affects biological matter in order to create a life form.
When the black liquid pools on the ground, the larvae we saw on the ground began to bathe in it and feed on it. As a result, it bioformed them as it’s capable of doing, the end result being an agressive more advanced worm creature, the creatures encountered by Fifield and Millburn. When the creature sprays acid on Fifield’s helmet it begins to melt it. Fifield then falls into the black liquid, but when he stands the helmet has been melted enough that it collapses inwards. The mixture of melted helmet and the black liquid burns into his face, causing him to pass out, falling face first into the black liquid, where it begins to biologically change him as it did the larvae worms.

Meanwhile, Holloway, who has ingested a single drop of the black liquid, has been undergoing internal changes. As he ingested it, and only in*a small amount, his change has taken more time, working more subtly, changing his internal organs first including his reproductive system. Because of this, and unawares to either of them, he impregnates Shaw with an embryo that is human based, but has been part changed by the black liquid. Holloway begins to suffer radical changes with the black liquid changing him into a xenomorph drone. He’s not as far along as Fifield when we last see him, and his behavour and mind has not been changed yet when he sacrifices himself.

The real surprise is that because the creature that Shaw gives birth to is a hybrid of human and xenomorph genetics, it contains all of the genetic traits of the xenomorphs, intelligence, aggression, but it now also contains in some form, a reproductive system, meaning that it is able to implant an embryo in a being (as we see at the movie’s end), which it will take traits from and evolve into the xenomorph we know.
:myman: BRAVO......thats what I'm talking about. It all makes sense now. As intelligent as I choose to believe I am, I couldn't piece everything together. And I think that may be why some people are feeling a little disappointed becasue they know they saw everything and everything was in front of them but they couldn't quite figure it out and piece it all together, yet the movie was still very good, so it tends to cause folks to have a slightly negative initial reaction to the film.
 
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i loved it, but i have a question to ponder wit my fellow movie-analyst buffs....that opening sequence. what was the significance of the dude basically commiting suicide while watching the ship fly off some planet....i was trying to place that moment in the realm of things after all said and done and i dont exactly have a fix on it.

any thoughts??
 

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I am going to fukkin strangle that fukin jew Damon Lindelof for rapeing my childhood!

This movie had so much petential and they fukkED IT UP with a awful script, no character development, cringe worhty lines and poor action. the SpaceJockeys where handled poorly and making them humanoid took away the mystery of them and ruined it for me.

That ending was so anti-climatic

I was so hyped for this all year and they manage to fukk it up! just like usual from Hollywood.

Ridley is to old he doesn't have it anymore. he needs to go away.

highly dissapointed :smh:
 

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I liked the ambiguity of the "2000 years ago" situation. They said the incident with the Engineers getting killed at that temple was around that far back, and right before they were apparently on their way to wipe humans out. So why kills us all? Why did they change their mind?

What major event comes to mind when you think of what happened on Earth 2000 years ago? I don't think they wanted to spell it out and piss off religious groups but.....anyone else think the Engineers were pissed at us cause they sent one of their own (or their creation) to try and help us along and we crucified him? Space Jesus :birdman:

Maybe they saw us getting increasingly violent and decided to try one last time to straighten us out. Obviously we then went ahead and killed the "savior" and the Engineers said "fukk it they aint never gonna learn and if they ever get spaceflight they are gonna continue this violent shyt and maybe eventually kill US." When that dude woke up he must have been like ":ooh: these dudes were riding camels when i went to sleep, now they at my front door with a spaceship!"
 

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Also when Shaw all of sudden becomes a strong believer in GOD by the end of the movie came out of nowhere and made no sense.

by the end of this movie after all the laughable bullshyt i already seen they had the nerve to rub in are faces the horseshyt that is theism.

fukk HOLLYWOOD!
 

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I wasn't even looking for more action, I was looking for more of a suspenseful feel. I watched Alien again the night before seeing Prometheus and the tension and drama was off the chain from the moment they entered the spaceship yet I never felt those same levels in Prometheus. It just felt off to me.

Blame that on marketing and the internet age. The original Alien promotion never showed the creature And all off the action sequences in the trailers plus this being promoted as a new alien movie the viewer already knew too much to be suprised or suspenseful
 
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